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69K10 Tank · 11-11-2003, 10:24 PM

Alright guys, time for you help once again. A few months ago I converted from manual steering to powersteering on my truck. I took the box of an 84 chevy and put it on my 69 k10. Well now the box is getting really loose and I need to fix it. I've looked around town and really can only find 2wd boxes. So is there a difference between the boxes or can I just use the 2wd? Or can I rebuild the one I have? I kinda need to do this somewhat cheaply, being as i'm 17. So what are my options. Thanks again guys.

Pont · 11-12-2003, 03:36 AM

Unfortunetly, you cannot use a 2wd box in place of a 4wd box. The difference is in the pitman arm and they are not interchangeable. You will need to either find another 4wd box or see about rebuilding yours. I've never rebuilt one so I don't know what's involved or how common the parts are. If you ever decide to run a "crossover steering" setup, you will need to snag one of those 2wd boxes.

69K10 Tank · 11-12-2003, 08:03 PM

Thanks for the reply Pont, too bad, I was really hoping I could just use the 2wd ones. If I were to do the crossover steering, what would be involved with that? About how much would it cost me? Thanks again guys.

Pont · 11-12-2003, 11:50 PM

well, it's not all that hard to do a crossover steering and it's not very expensive. The trick is finding someone that can weld and fabricate at a reasonable price. First, you would need to get a 2wd power steering box (with pitman arm). Then, you would need to cut about 6 inches off the end of your exsisting steering arm and have it bolted and welded to the passenger side steering knuckle. Then you need to make a tie-rod bar long enough to go from the pitman arm on the steering box, over to the passenger side steering knuckle and connect to the piece of old steering arm that you bolted and welded on that side. Naturally, you would need tie-rod ends on both ends of your new tie-rod bar. It can be made to be adjustable on both ends or have one tie-rod ended welded to your new bar, and just make one side adjustable. However, if the welded tie-rod end ever went bad or needed replaced, you would need to weld a new one on instead of just threading a new one on.

Hope this crude description helps. I don't currently have any pics of my setup on my computer but I have posted several pics in the past if you want to try and do a search.

Rob

**Yukon Jack** · 11-13-2003, 11:57 AM

Pont, any thoughts on what year 2wd box would work? I can get one off the 89 1 ton that I got the engine from.

6869704X4 · 11-20-2003, 11:16 AM

If I remember right your 1 ton was the old body style? 73 to 80 something. The box will work but the fitting for the lines are probably different. Nothing that a flaring tool and union wont fix though.

*MJF* · 11-20-2003, 02:04 PM

Here's a link to ORD's crossover parts. At least it gives you a start on researching cross over.

http://www.offroaddesign.com/Dana44crossover.htm

drink2mny · 11-20-2003, 03:03 PM

You know I like to always plug
Blackbird's Custom Trucks
Go to the products page..
He deals with our year vehicles and sell crossover steering kits at a really good price..

Believe me it is like night and day difference with the crossover setup..
I have had it on a dana 44 and now on my Dana 60..

Check us out and look around for comparison..

Thanks

Pont · 11-21-2003, 05:45 AM

Hey Yukon, that 89 box should mount just fine but as 6869704x4 said, the fittings will be different. Somewhere around 1980 or 81, they went from a standard inverted flare to the metric o-ring style fitting. You could have a pressure hose made to fit (inverted flare on the pump end and o-ring style on the box end) but it might be spendy. If you go with the late model steering box, make sure you use the pump as well. That will make it alot easier when it comes time to replace that hose.

Sorry it took so long to respond, I don't get on here as much as I would like to anymore.

11-11-2003, 10:24 PM	#1
69K10 Tank Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Olypmia, Wa Posts: 49	Power steering questions Alright guys, time for you help once again. A few months ago I converted from manual steering to powersteering on my truck. I took the box of an 84 chevy and put it on my 69 k10. Well now the box is getting really loose and I need to fix it. I've looked around town and really can only find 2wd boxes. So is there a difference between the boxes or can I just use the 2wd? Or can I rebuild the one I have? I kinda need to do this somewhat cheaply, being as i'm 17. So what are my options. Thanks again guys.

11-12-2003, 03:36 AM	#2
Pont I need another Barley Pop Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,629	Unfortunetly, you cannot use a 2wd box in place of a 4wd box. The difference is in the pitman arm and they are not interchangeable. You will need to either find another 4wd box or see about rebuilding yours. I've never rebuilt one so I don't know what's involved or how common the parts are. If you ever decide to run a "crossover steering" setup, you will need to snag one of those 2wd boxes. __________________ 67 Short Fleet 4x4 04 Honda CRF450R 89 Toyota 4-Runner 34 Ford 2 door sedan - Long term project ---------------------------------------------- There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"

11-12-2003, 08:03 PM	#3
69K10 Tank Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Olypmia, Wa Posts: 49	Thanks for the reply Pont, too bad, I was really hoping I could just use the 2wd ones. If I were to do the crossover steering, what would be involved with that? About how much would it cost me? Thanks again guys. __________________ Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war 69 K-10, 350, sm465, T221, 33" BFG A/T, drums all around (soon to be discs)

11-12-2003, 11:50 PM	#4
Pont I need another Barley Pop Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,629	well, it's not all that hard to do a crossover steering and it's not very expensive. The trick is finding someone that can weld and fabricate at a reasonable price. First, you would need to get a 2wd power steering box (with pitman arm). Then, you would need to cut about 6 inches off the end of your exsisting steering arm and have it bolted and welded to the passenger side steering knuckle. Then you need to make a tie-rod bar long enough to go from the pitman arm on the steering box, over to the passenger side steering knuckle and connect to the piece of old steering arm that you bolted and welded on that side. Naturally, you would need tie-rod ends on both ends of your new tie-rod bar. It can be made to be adjustable on both ends or have one tie-rod ended welded to your new bar, and just make one side adjustable. However, if the welded tie-rod end ever went bad or needed replaced, you would need to weld a new one on instead of just threading a new one on. Hope this crude description helps. I don't currently have any pics of my setup on my computer but I have posted several pics in the past if you want to try and do a search. Rob __________________ 67 Short Fleet 4x4 04 Honda CRF450R 89 Toyota 4-Runner 34 Ford 2 door sedan - Long term project ---------------------------------------------- There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"

11-13-2003, 11:57 AM	#5
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,683	Pont, any thoughts on what year 2wd box would work? I can get one off the 89 1 ton that I got the engine from. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14 Last edited by Yukon Jack; 11-13-2003 at 12:06 PM.

11-20-2003, 11:16 AM	#6
6869704X4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: SE NM Posts: 769	If I remember right your 1 ton was the old body style? 73 to 80 something. The box will work but the fitting for the lines are probably different. Nothing that a flaring tool and union wont fix though. __________________ The more I learn about women, the more I love my truck.

11-20-2003, 02:04 PM	#7
MJF No longer truckless Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Campbell, CA Posts: 299	Here's a link to ORD's crossover parts. At least it gives you a start on researching cross over. http://www.offroaddesign.com/Dana44crossover.htm

11-20-2003, 03:03 PM	#8
drink2mny Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: spokane wa Posts: 2,189	You know I like to always plug Blackbird's Custom Trucks Go to the products page.. He deals with our year vehicles and sell crossover steering kits at a really good price.. Believe me it is like night and day difference with the crossover setup.. I have had it on a dana 44 and now on my Dana 60.. Check us out and look around for comparison.. Thanks __________________ Support The Board

11-21-2003, 05:45 AM	#9
Pont I need another Barley Pop Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 1,629	Hey Yukon, that 89 box should mount just fine but as 6869704x4 said, the fittings will be different. Somewhere around 1980 or 81, they went from a standard inverted flare to the metric o-ring style fitting. You could have a pressure hose made to fit (inverted flare on the pump end and o-ring style on the box end) but it might be spendy. If you go with the late model steering box, make sure you use the pump as well. That will make it alot easier when it comes time to replace that hose. Sorry it took so long to respond, I don't get on here as much as I would like to anymore. __________________ 67 Short Fleet 4x4 04 Honda CRF450R 89 Toyota 4-Runner 34 Ford 2 door sedan - Long term project ---------------------------------------------- There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"



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