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justincasey57 · 02-23-2008, 11:00 PM

I was wondering how I can tell if my truck is an origional 4x4 truck?? I've heard you could tell by the rivets in the front leaf spring hangers and I've also heard of other stuff.Can anyone help me with this?? thanks

Burt4x4 · 02-23-2008, 11:18 PM

Your vin number will tell you

justincasey57 · 02-23-2008, 11:26 PM

only bad thing is a tree fell on the original cab so this cab is different so I dont know if they changed the vin plates or not.or is there a vin# on the frame?

vtblazer · 02-24-2008, 02:53 AM

Why are you wondering?

Something seem wrong with it?

**special-K** · 02-24-2008, 03:09 AM

Are your hangers riveted or bolted?How about the crossmembers?The frames taper in behind the rear axle.Does the serial number start with a "K"?If it a`72 does it start with "CK"?The frame# is left side top of rail back of engine about under the cab.

**Yukon Jack** · 02-24-2008, 03:09 AM

What year is it and can you shoot a few pics of the undercarriage so we can see if things look factory?

justincasey57 · 02-24-2008, 03:18 AM

the hangers are rivited on.dont know about the crossmember the truck is in the shop right now but I remember seeing the rivets in the hangers. the cab vin# isnt the origional vin#the origonal cab had a tree fall on it so the guy i got it from put a new cab on it and I dont think he changed the vin plates.I'll try to get some pic's of it when I go back up to the shop monday.

79oldj · 02-25-2008, 01:03 AM

Vin number should be on your title. Sounds factory to me if the hangers are riveted on. I dont no anyone who has a hot rivet setup to put them back on to a factory look.

justincasey57 · 02-25-2008, 01:18 AM

no title either just bill of sale

vtblazer · 02-25-2008, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by justincasey57

no title either just bill of sale

Are you going to be able to license it where you live without a title?

see ten · 02-25-2008, 03:08 AM

In Georgia it's No Title......No Problem. They don't even want to issue a new title if your vehicle is more than 14 years old.

vtblazer · 02-25-2008, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by see ten

In Georgia it's No Title......No Problem. They don't even want to issue a new title if your vehicle is more than 14 years old.

Same as here in VT.

Bill of sale is all we need.

shilo · 02-25-2008, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by vtblazer

Same as here in VT.

Bill of sale is all we need.

that is fantastic. Here in colorado you gotta jump through hoops of fire to get a older vehicle titled. Outta state ones at least.

79oldj · 02-25-2008, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by see ten

In Georgia it's No Title......No Problem. They don't even want to issue a new title if your vehicle is more than 14 years old.

Must be nice in Illinois they have a coronary if you do any modifications such as a cab change 2wheel to 4wheel conversions. In order to get a title for one of my older projects we had to have a rebuild liscense fill out 90 pages of paperwork and a state inspector went through it with a fine tooth comb making sure every little nothing detail was right. I am a lot more leary of changing cabs out after all the bs in Illinois.

Im ready to move to Georgia.

us111 · 02-25-2008, 10:13 PM

hello,when i had my cab off of my 76 k-10 the vin was stamped on the passenger side frame rail,just about where you could c it thru wheel well.

usdabeef · 02-26-2008, 07:12 AM

Here's my 72 c-10 converted to a 4x4. 383 stroker, 3" body, 4" suspension. Should have seen me trying to get this titled in Utah. Incorrect vin # on title from state of Virginia. But it's on the road and doing just fine now.

justincasey57 · 02-26-2008, 08:32 AM

what size are those tires? 35's??

usdabeef · 02-26-2008, 09:03 AM

they are 35's

dinotruck68 · 02-26-2008, 09:08 AM

man u guys are freakin lucky!! the guy i bought my truck from never signed the title over from the orig. owner...ive tried to contact him but i think he died.. so im gonna hav to forge his signature

Truck Hippy · 02-27-2008, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 79oldj

Vin number should be on your title. Sounds factory to me if the hangers are riveted on. I dont no anyone who has a hot rivet setup to put them back on to a factory look.

I'm not saying factory or not with out more info (pics) but a lot of blazer frames got swapped under these trucks. Depending on how good the cut/welds are, these can pass as "factory" 4x4's.

OldCreek · 02-27-2008, 08:55 AM

2wd frame?...... look at the wheel well arches on the frame. I believe the 2wd frames will have holes/cutouts where the original arms would have bolted into. These are large 1 1/2" (approx) cutouts and there will be indentations also.

IMHO.

Truck Hippy · 03-02-2008, 08:03 AM

Any luck getting some pics or more info??

BurnoutNova · 03-02-2008, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Truck Hippy

but a lot of blazer frames got swapped under these trucks. Depending on how good the cut/welds are, these can pass as "factory" 4x4's.

why would a blazer frame be put under a truck? blazer frames are shorter, even shorter than swb trucks and the work involved in lenghthening the frame would make it unrealistic

it would be much easier to just swap all the suspension parts over and bolt them to the truck frame

Truck Hippy · 03-02-2008, 08:44 AM

Putting a blazer frame under a 2wd is alot easier than you may think. The frame is shorter but you can chop up a lwb frame and add it without much work. Its done alot, around here anyway.

02-23-2008, 11:00 PM	#1
justincasey57 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: dallas ga Posts: 54	Is my truck a true 4x4??? I was wondering how I can tell if my truck is an origional 4x4 truck?? I've heard you could tell by the rivets in the front leaf spring hangers and I've also heard of other stuff.Can anyone help me with this?? thanks

02-23-2008, 11:18 PM	#2
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? Your vin number will tell you __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks

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justincasey57 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: dallas ga Posts: 54	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? only bad thing is a tree fell on the original cab so this cab is different so I dont know if they changed the vin plates or not.or is there a vin# on the frame?

02-24-2008, 02:53 AM	#4
vtblazer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Vermont Posts: 8,538	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? Why are you wondering? Something seem wrong with it?

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special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? Are your hangers riveted or bolted?How about the crossmembers?The frames taper in behind the rear axle.Does the serial number start with a "K"?If it a`72 does it start with "CK"?The frame# is left side top of rail back of engine about under the cab. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

02-24-2008, 03:09 AM	#6
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02-24-2008, 03:18 AM	#7
justincasey57 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: dallas ga Posts: 54	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? the hangers are rivited on.dont know about the crossmember the truck is in the shop right now but I remember seeing the rivets in the hangers. the cab vin# isnt the origional vin#the origonal cab had a tree fall on it so the guy i got it from put a new cab on it and I dont think he changed the vin plates.I'll try to get some pic's of it when I go back up to the shop monday.

02-25-2008, 01:03 AM	#8
79oldj Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tennessee IL Posts: 42	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? Vin number should be on your title. Sounds factory to me if the hangers are riveted on. I dont no anyone who has a hot rivet setup to put them back on to a factory look.

02-25-2008, 01:18 AM	#9
justincasey57 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: dallas ga Posts: 54	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? no title either just bill of sale

02-25-2008, 03:08 AM	#11
see ten WTB this ad Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lafayette Georgia Posts: 5,074	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? In Georgia it's No Title......No Problem. They don't even want to issue a new title if your vehicle is more than 14 years old.

02-25-2008, 10:13 PM	#15
us111 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: ashland oh Posts: 660	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? hello,when i had my cab off of my 76 k-10 the vin was stamped on the passenger side frame rail,just about where you could c it thru wheel well.

02-26-2008, 07:12 AM	#16
usdabeef Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: salt lake city, utah Posts: 169	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? Here's my 72 c-10 converted to a 4x4. 383 stroker, 3" body, 4" suspension. Should have seen me trying to get this titled in Utah. Incorrect vin # on title from state of Virginia. But it's on the road and doing just fine now. Last edited by usdabeef; 04-28-2008 at 11:48 PM.

02-26-2008, 08:32 AM	#17
justincasey57 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: dallas ga Posts: 54	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? what size are those tires? 35's??

02-26-2008, 09:03 AM	#18
usdabeef Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: salt lake city, utah Posts: 169	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? they are 35's

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dinotruck68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Alamo Posts: 104	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? man u guys are freakin lucky!! the guy i bought my truck from never signed the title over from the orig. owner...ive tried to contact him but i think he died.. so im gonna hav to forge his signature __________________



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02-27-2008, 08:55 AM	#21
OldCreek Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Coast California Posts: 1,026	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? 2wd frame?...... look at the wheel well arches on the frame. I believe the 2wd frames will have holes/cutouts where the original arms would have bolted into. These are large 1 1/2" (approx) cutouts and there will be indentations also. IMHO. __________________ 1972 K20 Suburban 5.7/700r4/NP205 Dana 44/H052 Sold 1972 C10 5.3L/4L60E 12bolt 5Lug - Sold 1971 K5 Blazer 6.0L LQ9 4L60E NP205 Dana 44/H052!!! 1970 K3500 1ton CrewCab 8.1L/Allison1000/NP205 Dana 60/14B!!!! - Sold 1984 K10 SWB 7.4L/4L80e/NP208 Corp 10/12 bolt Sold 1988 V30 CCLB 7.4L/TH400/NP205/Dana 60/Dana 70/3.73!!! (Sold) 2003 K2500HD 8.1/Allison1000/NP263

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Truck Hippy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hickory, NC. Posts: 776	Re: Is my truck a true 4x4??? Putting a blazer frame under a 2wd is alot easier than you may think. The frame is shorter but you can chop up a lwb frame and add it without much work. Its done alot, around here anyway.

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