$1k to spend on motor, suggestions? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

cochino12 · 04-03-2008, 06:52 AM

I need to wake the Blazer up a little bit and need some suggestions, I dont need a total drag car but want something similar to my old 85 c10 with zz4. Right now it's a bone stock 350 runs great no smoke supposedly only has about 75k orig miles, th350 w/shift kit, 2:73 rear gears. I"m only looking to spend about $1000-$1300 on motor upgrades (exhaust to come later).

I was thinking of getting some vortec heads, intake, and cam and later I'll swap the highway gears for some 3:73's. Its mainly a weekend driver so not really worried about mileage, needs to pass smog, and I'm in Denver if elevation matters. So any suggestions?

manimal · 04-03-2008, 02:52 PM

Youre prolly on the right track with your choices. But I would do the gears FIRST. What size tires are you running? If you go with a bigger cam then it will raise the rpm range, and you dont have the gears to support that.

cochino12 · 04-03-2008, 03:10 PM

Instead of actually doing a gear swap I'm going to pull a 3:73 12 bolt from a truck at a friends house but it will be a couple months before its ready. Tire size is be somewhere between 27-29", not sure if I want to change the rally's yet

tds · 04-03-2008, 03:26 PM

Gears for sure. What's the rear end gonna cost you.

cochino12 · 04-03-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tds

Gears for sure. What's the rear end gonna cost you.

$0

, Its in a 4wd but I am pretty sure all I need to do is swap shafts to change it to 5 lug. If not there are 10-12 bolts on craigslist for around $100 all the time

Crush · 04-03-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cochino12

I need to wake the Blazer up a little bit and need some suggestions, I dont need a total drag car but want something similar to my old 85 c10 with zz4. Right now it's a bone stock 350 runs great no smoke supposedly only has about 75k orig miles, th350 w/shift kit, 2:73 rear gears. I"m only looking to spend about $1000-$1300 on motor upgrades (exhaust to come later).

I was thinking of getting some vortec heads, intake, and cam and later I'll swap the highway gears for some 3:73's. Its mainly a weekend driver so not really worried about mileage, needs to pass smog, and I'm in Denver if elevation matters. So any suggestions?

Cochino,

I had a '78 a while back and did EXACTLY what you're talking about. It was a fairly low milage stock 350 and I put on a set of Vortec's with roller rockers, Air-Gap intake and a Comp Cams lifter/cam/timing chain set (268 I think) and a set of FlowTech Long tubes. WHAT A DIFFERENCE. It took a boggy stock 350 and REALLY woke it up. I would run high 13's low 14's in that thing all day and was a blast to drive.

Sounds like you are right on track with what you want to do!

cochino12 · 04-04-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush

Cochino,

I had a '78 a while back and did EXACTLY what you're talking about. It was a fairly low milage stock 350 and I put on a set of Vortec's with roller rockers, Air-Gap intake and a Comp Cams lifter/cam/timing chain set (268 I think) and a set of FlowTech Long tubes. WHAT A DIFFERENCE. It took a boggy stock 350 and REALLY woke it up. I would run high 13's low 14's in that thing all day and was a blast to drive.

Sounds like you are right on track with what you want to do!

Thats what I wanted to hear and that's one of the cams I was looking at too.

Anybody see anything wrong with buying used heads? I saw these vortecs on craigslist but no price, guy told me to make offer. What do you think they are worth?

Jonboy · 04-04-2008, 05:20 PM

I would offer $300-350 for the heads and intake.

babyJay · 04-04-2008, 05:49 PM

A nice Pro-form dress up kit will set you back $200, if you like

Crush · 04-04-2008, 05:57 PM

I'm with Jonboy $350 for it all. You can get brand new heads for $580.

I went back and looked at my old reciepts. I did order the High Energy 268. It was the biggest cam I could run with stock springs. Vortecs have a max lift of .475 and this cam ran .454.

If you get those heads get CompCam kit 249-K12-210-2

Comes with new springs, retainers, cam, lifters, timing chain,etc... ran me $330

I also was running a 600 Performer Edelbrock.

It was fun and was the whole reason I bought this K5....missed my other one soooo badly.

SRH916 · 04-04-2008, 08:08 PM

I wouldn't buy them new, we got alot of vortec heads in at the machine shop with cracks we couldn't fix. I would go new. Maybe just me though.

swb85 · 04-04-2008, 09:57 PM

For price comparison, I bought my vortecs for $350 shipped. They were completely rebuilt with new stainless valves, 3 angle valve job, cleanup mill & new guides..... but came with no springs/retainers/locks.

Jonboy · 04-05-2008, 05:51 AM

Seems like the Scoggin Dickey upgraded Vortecs aren't a lot more and will go .550 lift, IIRC. Also keep in mind all of the head bolts (I think) and intake bolts (for sure) are different on the Vortec heads too.

bagged74 · 04-05-2008, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Crush

I'm with Jonboy $350 for it all. You can get brand new heads for $580.

I went back and looked at my old reciepts. I did order the High Energy 268. It was the biggest cam I could run with stock springs. Vortecs have a max lift of .475 and this cam ran .454.

If you get those heads get CompCam kit 249-K12-210-2

Comes with new springs, retainers, cam, lifters, timing chain,etc... ran me $330

I also was running a 600 Performer Edelbrock.

It was fun and was the whole reason I bought this K5....missed my other one soooo badly.

That thing is a blast to drive isnt it? I kinda miss it.

collin86 · 04-05-2008, 07:44 AM

$1000 can get you a lot or NOS that will wake that motor right up

Crush · 04-05-2008, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bagged74

That thing is a blast to drive isnt it? I kinda miss it.

haha...yeah. Been tweaking the tune lately. Got it allllllmost to where I want it. Started running pig rich when I got it back to FL. Haven't had the time to mess with it until the last week or do. Changed out the jets and metering rods and springs....got it to where it'll light 'em up out of the hole...and with a 3:08 rear end..that's been a challenge.

Gonna switch out the Team G with an AirGap I have to see if that'll wake up the bottom end. If I can get the power out of this 383 that I think I can...I may just sell the 421.

Anything happening with the 72?

MylilBowTie · 04-05-2008, 07:44 PM

Whats the specs on the 421?

Crush · 04-08-2008, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MylilBowTie

Whats the specs on the 421?

splayed 4 bolt 400 , Scat crank, Eagle h-beams, Ross pistons 10.5:1, Doug Herbert Hyd. Roller 287/287 .575 lift, Hydralic Roller Retro Lifters, TrickFlow Aluminum heads, Comp Pro Magnum 1.6 rockers, AFR Rev-Kit, RPM Air-Gap

sweatmachine · 06-05-2008, 05:16 PM

I was thinking of doing the same mods to my '78 350 Heavy Half. It has 110k original miles, no smoke, runs well, etc.

It has the stock auto trans. If I go w/ new heads, cam, intake, and some headers will I need to do anything to the trans to handle the power? (sorry for the newbie question)

04-03-2008, 06:52 AM	#1
cochino12 It followed me home? Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Yup Posts: 5,751	$1k to spend on motor, suggestions? I need to wake the Blazer up a little bit and need some suggestions, I dont need a total drag car but want something similar to my old 85 c10 with zz4. Right now it's a bone stock 350 runs great no smoke supposedly only has about 75k orig miles, th350 w/shift kit, 2:73 rear gears. I"m only looking to spend about $1000-$1300 on motor upgrades (exhaust to come later). I was thinking of getting some vortec heads, intake, and cam and later I'll swap the highway gears for some 3:73's. Its mainly a weekend driver so not really worried about mileage, needs to pass smog, and I'm in Denver if elevation matters. So any suggestions? __________________ Adam That's why they call it a shortcut Kyle, if it was easy it would just be the way. 86 c-10 SWB 85 CCSB 90 GMC K30 Crew SRW 1985 C30 Dually

04-03-2008, 02:52 PM	#2
manimal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Kalifornia Posts: 3,066	Re: $1k to spend on motor, suggestions? Youre prolly on the right track with your choices. But I would do the gears FIRST. What size tires are you running? If you go with a bigger cam then it will raise the rpm range, and you dont have the gears to support that. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------ -Lance 2000 Chevy C2500, 5.7, 4L80e 1999 Suburban K2500, 7.4, 4L80e 1980 Camaro..son's car...PROJECT

04-03-2008, 03:10 PM	#3
cochino12 It followed me home? Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Yup Posts: 5,751	Re: $1k to spend on motor, suggestions? Instead of actually doing a gear swap I'm going to pull a 3:73 12 bolt from a truck at a friends house but it will be a couple months before its ready. Tire size is be somewhere between 27-29", not sure if I want to change the rally's yet __________________ Adam That's why they call it a shortcut Kyle, if it was easy it would just be the way. 86 c-10 SWB 85 CCSB 90 GMC K30 Crew SRW 1985 C30 Dually

04-03-2008, 03:26 PM	#4
tds Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: minnesota Posts: 191	Re: $1k to spend on motor, suggestions? Gears for sure. What's the rear end gonna cost you. __________________ 1981 - C-10 SCSB Planning on putting this thing on it's rocker!

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Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	Re: $1k to spend on motor, suggestions? I would offer $300-350 for the heads and intake.

04-04-2008, 05:49 PM	#9
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04-04-2008, 05:57 PM	#10
Crush Active Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 307	Re: $1k to spend on motor, suggestions? I'm with Jonboy $350 for it all. You can get brand new heads for $580. I went back and looked at my old reciepts. I did order the High Energy 268. It was the biggest cam I could run with stock springs. Vortecs have a max lift of .475 and this cam ran .454. If you get those heads get CompCam kit 249-K12-210-2 Comes with new springs, retainers, cam, lifters, timing chain,etc... ran me $330 I also was running a 600 Performer Edelbrock. It was fun and was the whole reason I bought this K5....missed my other one soooo badly. __________________ D.M.C -FF-

04-04-2008, 08:08 PM	#11
SRH916 1975 C-10 Silverado LWB Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 326	Re: $1k to spend on motor, suggestions? I wouldn't buy them new, we got alot of vortec heads in at the machine shop with cracks we couldn't fix. I would go new. Maybe just me though. __________________ 1975 LWB C-10 Silverado - Stock - "BIG 10" - 4 Bolt 350 "Brand new" 1200mi - THM-375 "Brand new w/trans cooler" 5000mi 1995 Ford Lightning - Bone Stock - 351W - Vortech??

04-04-2008, 09:57 PM	#12
swb85 On a budget like Fred Sanford Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 2,031	Re: $1k to spend on motor, suggestions? For price comparison, I bought my vortecs for $350 shipped. They were completely rebuilt with new stainless valves, 3 angle valve job, cleanup mill & new guides..... but came with no springs/retainers/locks. __________________ '85 Silverado swb: 383 stroker, 10.5:1, vortec heads, 232/238 roller cam, RPM air gap, performer 750 carb, stainless longtubes, 3" duals/super 44's, T56/4.11 383ci build / exterior refresh thread '98 Camaro z28: 370ci twin turbo 370ci build '01 Tahoe LT 4x4: 5.3, longtubes/ory, magnaflow duals, custom tune....wife's DD

04-05-2008, 05:51 AM	#13
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	Re: $1k to spend on motor, suggestions? Seems like the Scoggin Dickey upgraded Vortecs aren't a lot more and will go .550 lift, IIRC. Also keep in mind all of the head bolts (I think) and intake bolts (for sure) are different on the Vortec heads too.

04-05-2008, 07:44 AM	#15
collin86 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: spokane, WA Posts: 136	Re: $1k to spend on motor, suggestions? $1000 can get you a lot or NOS that will wake that motor right up __________________ 1986 swb...soon to be some weird pro touring look..but better 92 jeep cherokee.... crawler

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06-05-2008, 05:16 PM	#19
sweatmachine Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 68	Re: $1k to spend on motor, suggestions? I was thinking of doing the same mods to my '78 350 Heavy Half. It has 110k original miles, no smoke, runs well, etc. It has the stock auto trans. If I go w/ new heads, cam, intake, and some headers will I need to do anything to the trans to handle the power? (sorry for the newbie question)



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