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ilovetara · 03-11-2007, 07:55 PM

I am not sure if I installed it right or not, but it doesn't pump the gas at all. Unless my fuel lines are blocked. Can anyone send me pictures of an install.

engine 292 L6

Thanks

As2rd · 03-11-2007, 08:02 PM

did you remember to push the rod up before you stick the tab in? (dont know the proper names) just a thought. The shaft can be mushroomed and can be replace at advance auto. ---Andy

ilovetara · 03-11-2007, 08:23 PM

Well, I took the pump off today and tried to feel for a rod, but can't feel one. All I feel is a rounded piece inside there.

*rage'nrat638* · 03-11-2007, 08:25 PM

you can get a bad new pump

i have bought bad new parts plenty of times

my wife got towed home two weeks ago. i go out and try to start car. no go.

has gas so i figure it's the fuel pump. right..

i go buy a 300.00 pump. jack it up, laying there hating the world. knock on the tank to try to tell how heavy it's going to be right.. sounds like a drum.. hollow?

gas Gage says 1/4 tank?

pour 1 1/2 gal's of gas in start's right up..

i drove my wife to work all week

moral of story check the obvious

ilovetara · 03-11-2007, 08:28 PM

Yeah I will probably just go buy a new pump, but is there suppose to be a rod inside where the pump installs? And what is the proper procedure to install?

As2rd · 03-11-2007, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovetara

Well, I took the pump off today and tried to feel for a rod, but can't feel one. All I feel is a rounded piece inside there.

That rounded piece is the rod. its a pain to move back up. If you can find someone with a narrow finger to hold it up. I used needle nose pliers to slide it up as far as i can. then i stuck my finger under it, slid it up as far as i can.had a buddy add "sealant to the gasket on the pump" Then I slid the tab under my finger as far as it would go. WITH A QUICK ACTION yanked my finger out and the rod landed on top of the tab. then bolt it up and add the lines and your good to go. ---Andy

ilovetara · 03-11-2007, 08:39 PM

Oh okay, the rounded piece is the rod. So the tab on the pump goes under the rounded rod.

As2rd · 03-11-2007, 08:45 PM

yeah, but I didnt realize you had a 292. Hopefully they are the same as my 350. It took a few tries but 3rd time was a charm

---Andy

ilovetara · 03-11-2007, 08:46 PM

Ahhh, I am going out to the garage to try it right now. Will post my findings. Thank a bunch Andy.

Scott

*rage'nrat638* · 03-11-2007, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovetara

Oh okay, the rounded piece is the rod. So the tab on the pump goes under the rounded rod.

yup..

ilovetara · 03-11-2007, 09:08 PM

Okay, I cannot get the tab under the rounded "rod" at all. I cannot move the rounded rod with my finger, it won't move. I am missing something.

**truckdude239** · 03-11-2007, 09:22 PM

sounds liek the rod is in the pump spot it will take some effort easy way might be to turn engine by hand stil rod is in the up position. just my .02

ilovetara · 03-11-2007, 09:28 PM

Okay so if I have the pump removed, turn the crank by hand, check to see if the "rod" has moved enough to get the pump in correctly. Is this right?

*rage'nrat638* · 03-11-2007, 09:56 PM

sorry i was sleeping

yes that rod run's on a cam lobe just like the lifters.
so if you keep pressure up on the rod and rotate the engine you can get the rod on the low spot of the lobe which will make installing the pump about 85% easyer

ilovetara · 03-11-2007, 10:01 PM

Hey no problem, I will try this and see if it works! Thanks a bunch

As2rd · 03-12-2007, 11:50 AM

I dunno if you got the rod up yet, but it would be easier to pick up the rod with needle nose pliers. If you drop it youll hear a noise that sounds like dropping a marble from 1 inch off the table. It gets a little time but youll get it. (watch out they are usually brass and can be scarred easily. ---Andy

cdowns · 03-12-2007, 12:02 PM

as far as i know there is no fuel pump rod on 6cyl engines the pump lever runs directly off the eccentric on the camshaft/ it should go on top the eccentric for proper operation

this shows the importance of having and reading a service manual// these guys will talk till they're blue in the face about the rod that doesn/t exist for the 6cyl fuel pump

blukangoo · 03-12-2007, 04:58 PM

I just put my pump back in a couple of weeks ago.
I renewed both of the gaskets.
I got everything ready to put the pump back on and just before I started I covered the pin with grease and shove it up the hole. It stayed in place just long enough to get the pump in. Worked pretty good.
If you do decide to reach in there with a pair of plyers or a screwdriver, don´t scratch the pin.

Kager67 · 03-12-2007, 11:20 PM

I agree with cdowns. I don't believe 6 cylinders have a fuel pump rod. That "bump" you feel is the cam lobe.

03-11-2007, 07:55 PM	#1
ilovetara My truck is in pieces! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 143	Help...new fuel pump not working... I am not sure if I installed it right or not, but it doesn't pump the gas at all. Unless my fuel lines are blocked. Can anyone send me pictures of an install. engine 292 L6 Thanks __________________ 69 Chevy C10 Long Finally down to the frame! My Build Progress Pics

03-11-2007, 08:02 PM	#2
As2rd Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lexington Park, MD Posts: 47	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... did you remember to push the rod up before you stick the tab in? (dont know the proper names) just a thought. The shaft can be mushroomed and can be replace at advance auto. ---Andy __________________ 1972 Chevy Truck 350ci/th350 Auto. Daily Driver

03-11-2007, 08:23 PM	#3
ilovetara My truck is in pieces! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 143	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... Well, I took the pump off today and tried to feel for a rod, but can't feel one. All I feel is a rounded piece inside there. __________________ 69 Chevy C10 Long Finally down to the frame! My Build Progress Pics

03-11-2007, 08:25 PM	#4
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... you can get a bad new pump i have bought bad new parts plenty of times my wife got towed home two weeks ago. i go out and try to start car. no go. has gas so i figure it's the fuel pump. right.. i go buy a 300.00 pump. jack it up, laying there hating the world. knock on the tank to try to tell how heavy it's going to be right.. sounds like a drum.. hollow? gas Gage says 1/4 tank? pour 1 1/2 gal's of gas in start's right up.. i drove my wife to work all week moral of story check the obvious

03-11-2007, 08:28 PM	#5
ilovetara My truck is in pieces! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 143	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... Yeah I will probably just go buy a new pump, but is there suppose to be a rod inside where the pump installs? And what is the proper procedure to install? __________________ 69 Chevy C10 Long Finally down to the frame! My Build Progress Pics

03-11-2007, 08:39 PM	#7
ilovetara My truck is in pieces! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 143	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... Oh okay, the rounded piece is the rod. So the tab on the pump goes under the rounded rod. __________________ 69 Chevy C10 Long Finally down to the frame! My Build Progress Pics

03-11-2007, 08:45 PM	#8
As2rd Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lexington Park, MD Posts: 47	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... yeah, but I didnt realize you had a 292. Hopefully they are the same as my 350. It took a few tries but 3rd time was a charm ---Andy __________________ 1972 Chevy Truck 350ci/th350 Auto. Daily Driver

03-11-2007, 08:46 PM	#9
ilovetara My truck is in pieces! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 143	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... Ahhh, I am going out to the garage to try it right now. Will post my findings. Thank a bunch Andy. Scott __________________ 69 Chevy C10 Long Finally down to the frame! My Build Progress Pics

03-11-2007, 09:08 PM	#11
ilovetara My truck is in pieces! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 143	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... Okay, I cannot get the tab under the rounded "rod" at all. I cannot move the rounded rod with my finger, it won't move. I am missing something. __________________ 69 Chevy C10 Long Finally down to the frame! My Build Progress Pics

03-11-2007, 09:22 PM	#12
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,236	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... sounds liek the rod is in the pump spot it will take some effort easy way might be to turn engine by hand stil rod is in the up position. just my .02 __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

03-11-2007, 09:28 PM	#13
ilovetara My truck is in pieces! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 143	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... Okay so if I have the pump removed, turn the crank by hand, check to see if the "rod" has moved enough to get the pump in correctly. Is this right? __________________ 69 Chevy C10 Long Finally down to the frame! My Build Progress Pics

03-11-2007, 09:56 PM	#14
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... sorry i was sleeping yes that rod run's on a cam lobe just like the lifters. so if you keep pressure up on the rod and rotate the engine you can get the rod on the low spot of the lobe which will make installing the pump about 85% easyer

03-11-2007, 10:01 PM	#15
ilovetara My truck is in pieces! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 143	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... Hey no problem, I will try this and see if it works! Thanks a bunch __________________ 69 Chevy C10 Long Finally down to the frame! My Build Progress Pics

03-12-2007, 11:50 AM	#16
As2rd Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lexington Park, MD Posts: 47	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... I dunno if you got the rod up yet, but it would be easier to pick up the rod with needle nose pliers. If you drop it youll hear a noise that sounds like dropping a marble from 1 inch off the table. It gets a little time but youll get it. (watch out they are usually brass and can be scarred easily. ---Andy __________________ 1972 Chevy Truck 350ci/th350 Auto. Daily Driver Last edited by As2rd; 03-12-2007 at 11:51 AM.

03-12-2007, 12:02 PM	#17
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... as far as i know there is no fuel pump rod on 6cyl engines the pump lever runs directly off the eccentric on the camshaft/ it should go on top the eccentric for proper operation this shows the importance of having and reading a service manual// these guys will talk till they're blue in the face about the rod that doesn/t exist for the 6cyl fuel pump __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY Last edited by cdowns; 03-13-2007 at 04:19 AM.



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03-12-2007, 04:58 PM	#18
blukangoo Neighborhood Pickle Slinger Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cadolzburg, Bavaria, Germany Posts: 2,224	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... I just put my pump back in a couple of weeks ago. I renewed both of the gaskets. I got everything ready to put the pump back on and just before I started I covered the pin with grease and shove it up the hole. It stayed in place just long enough to get the pump in. Worked pretty good. If you do decide to reach in there with a pair of plyers or a screwdriver, don´t scratch the pin. __________________ -------------------------------------------------- My C10 Diary Our cars: 1966 Chevrolet Chevelle 396 - TH350 1968 Chevrolet C10/CST 327 TH400/375 1969 Corvette Stingray 350 - Muncie Manual Trans 1969 Chevrolet ElCamino 350 - TH400 1970 Cutlass Supreme Convertible - 350 Rocket - TH350 1973 Camaro LT - New Engine Done - TH350 1973 Corvette Convertible 454 - TH400

03-12-2007, 11:20 PM	#19
Kager67 what knocking sound? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: good ol North Dakota Posts: 148	Re: Help...new fuel pump not working... I agree with cdowns. I don't believe 6 cylinders have a fuel pump rod. That "bump" you feel is the cam lobe. __________________ 1968 C-10 1953 belair two-door post 1955 chevy 3600 big window 1950 studebaker starlite coupe 1968 Impala SS

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