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05-05-2023, 08:48 PM | #1 |
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Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
Amazed how much better this GMC drives after pulling 305E and upgrading to 402 BBC. conversion.
Drives like a car, smooth, V6 was unique, but seriously under powered. 305E V6 7.5mpg. 170hp 402 bbc 12mpg. 310hp |
05-05-2023, 08:58 PM | #2 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
What year is the 402? GM didn't punch out the 396 until 1970.
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05-05-2023, 09:06 PM | #3 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
I got the 402 from a 1970 SWB CST takeout.
All date codes are correct for vehicle it came from. All I changed was intake to a Holley cast iron 1966 hi rise. |
05-05-2023, 09:08 PM | #4 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
Thinking next upgrade, is a gear vendor over drive. Then I can run freeway speeds..
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05-05-2023, 09:20 PM | #5 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
Gladyou like it. Theb6 can rip a building out of its foundation, but definitely lacks hiway guts. The OD will definitely help calm the BBCon the hiwY also
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05-05-2023, 09:26 PM | #6 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
Yep, V6. Had good low end lugging torque, but also lacked RPM. It went to a good home, guy restoring K20 4x4 GMC V6 truck.
This 402.. goes up steep hills in Drive that put my V6 in 1st. I only need OD and then this is a true parts chaser. I have the NP435G trans, and trans cross member and mounts, and engine mounts for V6 if someone needs them. |
05-05-2023, 11:18 PM | #7 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
Your very likely ruined for life! Once you feel the torque and the pony's them BBC's make, they own you! "Jus sayin"
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05-06-2023, 01:11 AM | #8 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
Got a 454 in my '71.. It's a disease I tell you. The first symptom is you go around with a smile on your face. Also makes you forget about gas mileage..
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05-06-2023, 10:19 AM | #9 |
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05-06-2023, 12:24 PM | #10 | |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
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My 82 C10 had a mild 355/TH350 with a 2.73 and 29.5" tall tires. Cruising at 70mph was ez-peezy, but it would spin the tires in first gear. Just trying to save you from OD expense and hassles, although the GV should be less of a PITA than a 700R4. And it will never break!
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05-06-2023, 01:49 PM | #11 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
Ran another 100mi + today, with 10gal of premium thru the big block.
Truck has 4.10 gear Dana 60. |
05-06-2023, 04:11 PM | #12 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
So 8 to 10 MPG whether your driving easy, towing or whatever then.
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05-07-2023, 08:23 AM | #13 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
Front sway bar is going to be next.... lot of nice winding roads to be seen.
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05-07-2023, 08:27 AM | #14 | |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
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V6 7.5mpg uphill, down hill, hauling water.. it just liked fuel. But since designed in late 50s, looks like ports from a 348...anchor, neither designed for fuel economy, but fuel was cheap. Massively heavy built, designed for durability. My old V6 is going in a 67 4x4 restoration, his block was cracked. Win-Win |
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05-08-2023, 02:53 PM | #15 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
If your friend would happen to know of a extra set of V6 4X4 engine perches I'm in bad need of a set for my restoration. My truck had been converted to a sbc at one time but it did have the original V6 with it. Thanks for any help.
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05-08-2023, 04:31 PM | #16 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
Are the front mounts the same? Bell housing on mine was 4spd,
If yours is a stick, it might be the same. |
05-08-2023, 04:32 PM | #17 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
You pay shipping, you can have them.
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05-08-2023, 04:33 PM | #18 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
Where in ohio? Pick them up, you can have three mounts, brackets, x member.
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05-08-2023, 04:48 PM | #19 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
I'm in Batavia, mine is a 4sp. Could you send me pictures, if they're right I'll be on the way. Thanks
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05-08-2023, 05:41 PM | #20 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
Bet it's same, not too many ways to mount that V6. Heading down to barn.
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05-08-2023, 06:00 PM | #21 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
I may not be able to get back to you until tomorrow.
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05-08-2023, 06:04 PM | #22 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
No problem, bet there is only one set of mounts for V6, big engine tight fit. I have eng mounts and frame mounts. And crossmember for bell housing to frame with mounts.
My 67 is here to look at frame hole locations. |
05-08-2023, 06:19 PM | #23 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
Had a 78 suburban with 454, ran good, ended putting eng and trans TH400 in a 78 Silverado that was originally a diesel. It had 2.73 gears. Was perfect for Texas freeways and FM roads.
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05-09-2023, 09:44 AM | #24 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
The frame mounting brackets (perches) and front crossmember are different on 4X4 vs 2WD. I have the brackets on the engine and a crossmember I've found (same as chevy 292 4X4) but I'm short the frame brackets. The rear mount crossmember I have as it was the same for chevy V8 or GMC V6 4X4's.
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05-09-2023, 09:59 AM | #25 |
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Re: Putting miles on 67, 402bbc VS 67 V6 305E
So the rear X member on bell housing is same. Mine is all there. The engine Bell housings were (Not HD SAE), so I suspect similar.
I chisled the rivits, not torched. I have the dust shield from Bell housing. Got left behind when I sold engine. Last edited by 1967GMCC20; 05-11-2023 at 06:05 PM. |
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