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MisterE72 07-06-2008 04:24 PM

???Drum Brake Assembly???
 
Greetings folks. I was wondering if someone can post a diagram the rear drum brake assembly for a 72 with a GM 12 bolt rear end. Thanks Mister E:chevy:
OR if there is a link with step by step...hey even better;)

john 07-06-2008 06:24 PM

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Heres a pic if it will help.

MisterE72 07-06-2008 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by john (Post 2795348)
Heres a pic if it will help.

Thanks. Do you have a different angle showing where the ebrake cable goes? Thanks again.

va_tlc 07-06-2008 06:51 PM

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man that pic looks all to familar!!! i just re done my brakes this weekend, that e-brake cable is a pain, and if yr mech challenged as i am leave the other side alone until ya get the opposite side complete. i wore a path in the cement walking around lol, good luck and use jack stands for yr saftey

va_tlc 07-06-2008 06:53 PM

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see the shiny arm on the rear of his pic? right behinde the adjuster? thats where your e brake cable attaches not to the shiny arm but the arm right behinde it

MisterE72 07-06-2008 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by va_tlc (Post 2795393)
see the shiny arm on the rear of his pic? right behinde the adjuster? thats where your e brake cable attaches not to the shiny arm but the arm right behinde it

Can the ebrake cable be installed "later on"? I'm considering ordering one of those stainless ones from Inline.

va_tlc 07-06-2008 08:17 PM

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umm i dont think so, well i guess you would have to take your brakes back off when your ready to install yr new ones, but that will be a snap after you do this once it wont take long, are you gonna go ahead and replace your wheel cylinders while your at it, there only like 10 bucks each.

ebfabman 07-23-2009 01:08 PM

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The shoes are on backwards. The short lined shoe is the primary and goes to the front.

72BlckButy 07-23-2009 02:03 PM

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EDIT... I missed this... this one was brought back from the dead. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by va_tlc (Post 2795389)
man that pic looks all to familar!!! i just re done my brakes this weekend, that e-brake cable is a pain, and if yr mech challenged as i am leave the other side alone until ya get the opposite side complete. i wore a path in the cement walking around lol, good luck and use jack stands for yr saftey

Me too.... :D

Mr E, can you take a picture of the brackets you have there. I recently did this same install this past weekend (1st time I might add) but failed to get a shot from the bottom side of the brake system. If you can post a picture of the brackets I think we could walk you through it in a snap.

As far as adding the e-brake after the drums are together, I think you are our of luck, unless you have extra small hands.

Rack Man 07-23-2009 02:22 PM

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Here is the best drum brake assembly information on the planet...LOL

http://www.pbase.com/nufsed/drumbrake
You can click on pics to make them bigger!


I followed those instructions and I had not done a drum brake job in over 20 years....here's mine finished!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_2wzS50GoNjQ/SU...s%20%23100.jpg

belowme51 04-11-2011 03:29 PM

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Thats the best link ever! thank you from all of those whom use it from this site!

goregalore 08-28-2011 07:11 PM

Special brake drum thank you
 
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...mc_moons_2.jpg

I am about to build the rear brakes on a 67 gmc c2500 3/4 ton. The rear brakes, nor emergency brake cables etc... do not exist on the truck so this thread has been very helpful. Thank you so much for posting the link to the "Brake Drum Assembly How to" it is for a 6 bolt hub but the setup is the same as the 8 bolt floating hub from what I can tell.

hjewell2 08-28-2011 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ebfabman (Post 3426885)
The shoes are on backwards. The short lined shoe is the primary and goes to the front.

I was just getting ready to ask that ?. The short brake shoe faces the front on both the rear and front correct.

fastwillie 696969 08-28-2011 11:04 PM

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heres one

RoughKuntry 07-31-2013 08:33 PM

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Can anyone get a photo of a 3/4 ton axle please. I can't seem to figure out why I mixed up the two brake struts and now I cant remember where they go besides at the top in between the brake shoes and under the wheel cylinders.

BCOWANWHEELS 04-30-2014 12:09 AM

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Yep short linned shoe to the front

goregalore 04-30-2014 08:14 AM

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the truck is facing right in the photo. This is a picture of the right side of the truck. See the emergency brake cable?
I screwed it up first because I was working on the drivers side and didn't think about the fact this pic could have been of the passenger side.

LostMy65 07-13-2014 05:29 PM

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Does anyone know if all truck 12-bolts use the same shoes and such?
For example; does 63-72 all interchange or does the 73+ 12-bolt also interchange with the earlier 12-bolts?

RoughKuntry 07-14-2014 04:13 AM

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Thank You guys. yall were alot of help

LostMy65 10-01-2015 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 6759375)
Does anyone know if all truck 12-bolts use the same shoes and such?
For example; does 63-72 all interchange or does the 73+ 12-bolt also interchange with the earlier 12-bolts?

I found this thread that 10-bolt and 12-bolt interchange, but I still haven't found an answer to my question above.
http://Www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=114315

BCOWANWHEELS 10-01-2015 11:32 AM

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I,am 99% sure all 12 bolt truck shoes are the same but I do know there are 2 different shoes and drums, 1 is h/d brakes other is std brakes.

kcsa75 10-01-2015 06:23 PM

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Wow! A post that refuses to die. Been brought back from the dead five times. :c2:

aotte1 12-25-2015 01:08 PM

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Lostmy65, also researching 12 bolt drum brake options, thinking of changing my 65 rear brakes to the newer 12 bolt heavy duty "JB 5" brake package. Just starting to see if it will work. Looks like the backing plates are different from earlier ones, offset to the center of truck to account for the wider brakes shoes. As notes here before by Keith Seymore, this is one of GM's really good brake systems, used as a design goal for trucks.

Any information/can it be done, on retrofitting rear JB 5 brakes to the early 12 bolt 2" brake shoe axles?

Note: using '79 Dana 44 front axle, with the JB 5 brakes. I am planning to use the complete JB 5 brake system on '64 K10 build. Keeping all the original '64 parts so they could be retorfit later.

Les

DHighway 05-21-2016 10:55 PM

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I have a 67 C-20 that im currently in the process of doing the rear shoes, pain in the butt, have not been done in id say 30 years, axles have to come off to remove hub and drum, pain in the butt, should have bought new wheel cylinders, went with rebuild kit, got one done, pain in the butt, lol, drums were surprisingly ok, but will replace oil seals and repack bearings did i mention its a pain in the butt.

BCOWANWHEELS 05-22-2016 05:05 PM

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I took my 70 front off late last fall put reassembly on hold for the winter then just as I was going to finish my tractor ran over my leg....... anyway time to finish em now and if it wasn't for this thread I don't know what I,d do................... thanks guys

BCOWANWHEELS 09-17-2017 04:20 AM

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Does anybody have a picture of the front c10 drum brake assy............

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 09-17-2017 11:25 AM

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This help?

BCOWANWHEELS 09-17-2017 07:06 PM

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Thanks tony but that is from a rear axle, the fronts are a little different and this is whhat i need help with

BCOWANWHEELS 09-20-2017 02:24 AM

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I got the fronts figured out............ I,ll post pic,s asap.
Bob

RedRider 09-25-2017 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rack Man (Post 3427011)

http://www.pbase.com/nufsed/drumbrake
You can click on pics to make them bigger!

Old thread, but this was a great reference! My dumbass disassembed both rear drums and was left without a reference, this was a lifesaver.

Question: There's two different style springs for the nail heads, which one goes where? One is tapered in slightly, and is such a small difference that I wonder if it event matters?

BCOWANWHEELS 09-25-2017 03:50 PM

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the tapered one goes on front shoe

RedRider 09-25-2017 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BCOWANWHEELS (Post 8047768)
the tapered one goes on front shoe

Thanks!! Just to clarify, does the tapered end go toward the shoe or towards the cap?

BCOWANWHEELS 09-25-2017 05:49 PM

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Towards shoe, on front shoe

Jens Jimmy 09-05-2018 01:55 PM

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A good rule of thumb on the brake shoes was stuck in my mind by a High School auto shop teacher.
" Big in the back, like your girlfriend's Butt"
I have never made a backwards mistake since I heard that.

67chevemall 09-06-2018 10:01 AM

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6 times. Great thread thanks

Judge56 01-10-2021 07:37 PM

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I know this thread is pretty old but the link to the pictures was a life saver for me. Been a long time since I have done drum brakes. Add to that the PO had the shoes reversed so who knows what all was wrong. Add to that like a DA I took both rear brakes off at once. Had ordered hardware kit thought I was ready to go, no not all springs come in a hardware kit. Wait on mail order for them. Long story longer, about 2 weeks goes by for this 69 year old and lets just say this thread saved the day and made quick work of the replacement parts. I know it's done right and my son will be safe. Thanks again for the info and pictures.

slikside 07-04-2023 03:27 PM

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7th time, at least!

Yeah, the sequence pics for assembly at the beginning was huge for me. Hadn't done this in quite a while, and I was missing that 3rd hand required for a lot of jobs. Everything is harder when you're doing it wrong!Lol!

Lower spring and star adjuster together first, then mounting the forward shoe on first took care of most of my gravity challenges. Pretty straight forward from there...

dartgts68m 07-12-2023 01:04 AM

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So what would an 11" drums strut and lever look like? I have a 1967 fleet shortbox. I have been trying to find one online but idk if what I found will work or is right, even if the listing or parts are correct. The length of each would help too. I was told that 66 and earlier would not work with mine.

Ironangel 07-12-2023 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dartgts68m (Post 9219267)
So what would an 11" drums strut and lever look like? I have a 1967 fleet shortbox. I have been trying to find one online but idk if what I found will work or is right, even if the listing or parts are correct. The length of each would help too. I was told that 66 and earlier would not work with mine.

The 67's are the same as the 72's only with 6 lug axles. I dont know the lengths of the struts but they're flat where the 3/4 ton struts have a bent edge. The pics above are of a 72 and the pics in this link are of the 6 lug 1/2 ton axles. They all use the same 1/2 ton
hardware with 11" drums. https://www.pbase.com/nufsed/drumbrake

dartgts68m 07-14-2023 03:13 PM

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Thanks for that. I have a buddy looking for some who I bought the truck from 1st. If not then the search goes on


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