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dukkie 01-21-2012 06:47 PM

Complete rewiring
 
72 C20 LWB, elect fan, elect fuel pump, HEI, 90's serpentine belt system with internal regulated alternator, NON A/C, Cab...

Which one should i get?

ez wiring http://www.ezwiring.com/wiring_harness.html

hotrod wires http://www.hotrodwires.com/12Circuit.html

painless wiring pickup http://www.shopatron.com/products/pr...er=10104/302.0

painless wiring street rod http://www.shopatron.com/products/pr...er=10102/302.0

forum member here has one for sale?

Daddy Brim 01-21-2012 07:35 PM

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I used the Painless 18 circuit part # 10206 http://www.shopatron.com/home/search...=10206&x=7&y=7 you will need to do some splicing and soldering, but it comes with extra circuits for power windows. fuel pump, fans etc.

leddzepp 01-21-2012 07:41 PM

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I would vote for American Autowire or M and H....but I do not see either in your poll :lol:

lil hoodlum 01-21-2012 07:44 PM

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You really should be looking for a wiring harness that has the circuits for everything you will be needing. A 12 circuit wiring harness is just the bare minimum. You should look it at least an 18 circuit wiring harness. I used the Painless wiring harness made for our trucks. It has the correct connections included. I used the 18 circuit truck wiring system (1967-1972) part # 10206. I installed it close to 10 years ago and have had no issues with it. Jegs has it for $388.00!

http://www.jegs.com/i/Painless-Perfo...d=#moreDetails

Good luck!

Keith

Tmwoodall 01-21-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp (Post 5137373)
I would vote for American Autowire or M and H....but I do not see either in your poll :lol:

I did a lot of reading/searches on this topic the passed few weeks. I came to the conclusion that AAWire was the way to go.

54belair 01-21-2012 09:34 PM

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Ive used ez wire twice and painless once. Currently have a new ez wire that will go in the 68 when Im ready.

I think they are all good----and fairly easy to use----ez wire is cheaper and the quality is as good.

workinprogress67 01-21-2012 09:38 PM

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Painless 18 circuit as mentioned by keith. Take Your time and it will turn out great. i got mine from jegs with a 100 dollar rebate from painless. it was well worth it.

CG 01-21-2012 09:41 PM

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I vote for American Auto Wire also. Ive never seen such a nice complete kit before.

dukkie 01-21-2012 10:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by leddzepp (Post 5137373)
I would vote for American Autowire or M and H....but I do not see either in your poll :lol:



If i knew of them i would include it too

schurg 01-21-2012 10:52 PM

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out of curiosity..do these 'universal' kits come with plugs or pigtails that connect to all the accessories in the truck? like the ignition plug, gauge plug, headlight switch, wiper switch, etc. or do you have to reuse the ones you currently have(which seems kinda useless to have to use old connecters). I know some kits come pre terminated, others are more bulk. just curious what others are doing when it comes to the connecters.

68C10HotRod 01-21-2012 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tmwoodall (Post 5137402)
I did a lot of reading/searches on this topic the passed few weeks. I came to the conclusion that AAWire was the way to go.

I'm going agree with LedZepp & Tmwoodall on the American Autowire too. I have been installing one of these in my 72 Burb using the truck version & it would be perfect for a truck. Very complete & gives you all the correct sockets to make it a near factory install. Also having each wire labeled every couple inches makes it real easy to install. It assumes HEI setup. Not the cheapest around $450 but well worth it.

Musclerodz 01-22-2012 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by schurg (Post 5137801)
out of curiosity..do these 'universal' kits come with plugs or pigtails that connect to all the accessories in the truck? like the ignition plug, gauge plug, headlight switch, wiper switch, etc. or do you have to reuse the ones you currently have(which seems kinda useless to have to use old connecters). I know some kits come pre terminated, others are more bulk. just curious what others are doing when it comes to the connecters.

that is where AAW classic Update shines. No reusing any of you 40 year old connectors or bulb receptacles. All new and included with AAW harness including factory guage connection or Autometer. Wiper switch not included but headlight, dimmer, and ignition (except in column applications) are.

white 67 01-22-2012 01:57 AM

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I used the painless 18 curcuit on my truck but i wish i had not. It has extra wires for everything which is nice but i dont have any of that stuff so now i just have a bunch of unused wires. The harness was not bad i just didnt get the right one for my use.

Musclerodz 01-22-2012 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by white 67 (Post 5138116)
I used the painless 18 curcuit on my truck but i wish i had not. It has extra wires for everything which is nice but i dont have any of that stuff so now i just have a bunch of unused wires. The harness was not bad i just didnt get the right one for my use.

AAW uses multi plug connections for all those extra circuits, so if you do not use them you do not have 20 feet of wire to cut off or roll up under the dash. I hope you terminated all the unused wires or pulled fuses to kill power to them

Tom Vogel 01-22-2012 11:05 AM

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AAW.... period

eightbanger 01-22-2012 11:27 AM

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Dukkie, I'd vote AAW too man, it's what i'll use when the time comes...heard only god things about them.

dukkie 01-23-2012 04:17 AM

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the poll is tied 5 to 5 EZ Wiring and Painless -Truck with zero votes on the others.. Sounds like had i known of and included American Auto Wire they would be at 7

dukkie 01-23-2012 04:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 54belair (Post 5137623)
Ive used ez wire twice and painless once. Currently have a new ez wire that will go in the 68 when Im ready.

I think they are all good----and fairly easy to use----ez wire is cheaper and the quality is as good.

This is basically what i was trying to figure out.. if some vendors charge 4-500 why than can this vendor sell equivalent product for 180



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Originally Posted by Musclerodz (Post 5137967)
that is where AAW classic Update shines. No reusing any of you 40 year old connectors or bulb receptacles. All new and included with AAW harness including factory guage connection or Autometer. Wiper switch not included but headlight, dimmer, and ignition (except in column applications) are.

this is information i am unaware of ez, hotrod, painless all require using for example my existing last 2 inches of every wire connection, bulb socket, ect. their porduct just ends as a cut wire and leave it to me to figure out the rest ie. crimp connector, twist nut, solder, or a potato to complete the new wire to my existing end points

And to understand yall correctly you are saying AAW includes new ones with their kit?? in addition they throw in a headlight and ignition switch as well?

LEX 01-23-2012 10:18 AM

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AAW sounds so complete, neat and easy. I see you're local. Are you doing the install yourself or having someone do it?

This is what sold me on the AAW kit. I don't have it, yet, but will be buying their kit soon.

flatfoot77 01-23-2012 10:39 AM

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I'd also go with American Auto Wire their wiring is superior to all the rest they use haevy duty wire and connectors plus you can buy direct from them and cut out the middle man.
www.americanautowire.com
I used their harness to repair the A/C harness and you can see the difference in quality.

eurospec1 01-23-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dukkie (Post 5140260)
This is basically what i was trying to figure out.. if some vendors charge 4-500 why than can this vendor sell equivalent product for 180





this is information i am unaware of ez, hotrod, painless all require using for example my existing last 2 inches of every wire connection, bulb socket, ect. their porduct just ends as a cut wire and leave it to me to figure out the rest ie. crimp connector, twist nut, solder, or a potato to complete the new wire to my existing end points

And to understand yall correctly you are saying AAW includes new ones with their kit?? in addition they throw in a headlight and ignition switch as well?

EZ wire is not far from me in Florida, Im working with one of their harnesses now on a different project, when i called the tech line i was actually speaking to the owner, who is also the builder/designer/tech guy from the sound of it. Its a great product, and i believe a very small operation and he gave me a ton of help over the phone, which is probably why the price point is much lower. Im happy with it so far and will be putting one in my 68.

Tmwoodall 01-23-2012 11:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flatfoot77 (Post 5140496)
I'd also go with American Auto Wire their wiring is superior to all the rest they use haevy duty wire and connectors plus you can buy direct from them and cut out the middle man.
www.americanautowire.com
I used their harness to repair the A/C harness and you can see the difference in quality.

Buying direct cost an extra $90 FYI. RockAuto has them for 439.

CG 01-23-2012 12:22 PM

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I bought my AAW kit from a board vendor and saved money over buying it direct. And yes the kit comes with headlight switch and ignition switch (with new keys). So you may to have your doors rekeyed if you want to run the same key on everything.

Cant remember which board vendor I bought it from >=(

dcasalena 01-23-2012 02:21 PM

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American Autowire part#510089.
Rockauto usually has the best price.

dukkie 01-23-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LEX (Post 5140473)
AAW sounds so complete, neat and easy. I see you're local. Are you doing the install yourself or having someone do it?

Doing it all myself. Just ordered new cab mounts so id like to tackle both of these at the same time while everythings going back together

Quote:

Originally Posted by CG (Post 5140683)
Cant remember which board vendor I bought it from >=(

thats the most important part CG!!!!!

was it Musclerodz?

LEX 01-23-2012 04:14 PM

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FYI. I just checked Rockauto and theirs is at $459.79 which is average, but still cheaper than buying it direct. They'll probably charge you shipping. If this is the kit you decide on, just search ebay #510089 and you'll find it for that price with free shipping.

snj8198 01-23-2012 04:18 PM

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AAW excellent quality and great instructions lead me to an easy weekend install.

69sixpackbee 01-23-2012 04:44 PM

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Unless you want to take it in the shorts *no pun intended* go with any company OTHER than Painful Products.
my $.02

dukkie 01-23-2012 06:10 PM

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485 after shipping

dukkie 01-23-2012 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LEX (Post 5141115)
FYI. I just checked Rockauto and theirs is at $459.79 which is average, but still cheaper than buying it direct. They'll probably charge you shipping. If this is the kit you decide on, just search ebay #510089 and you'll find it for that price with free shipping.

485 after shipping on Rock auto

458.15 on ebay + free shipping

kSStamp0182 01-23-2012 06:12 PM

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another vote for AAW. i used the EZ, but i did alot of modification & an engine swap. if your just replacing it AAW all day long. i wish i would have went with them.

dukkie 01-23-2012 06:17 PM

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yall have sold me on AAW.... Now Sell my wife on letting me buy it

chevytruckluver 01-23-2012 07:58 PM

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I have used the EZ wiring harness and thought it was easy to do I really liked it due to all the wires being laser marked every foot or so there was no mix ups
I bought a Hot rod wires from a board member for my current truck. It looks nice but yet to be installed.
Everyone says AAW is great, and by the replys you see here I would not be afraid to buy one of there kits
Good luck

68steppsidee 01-23-2012 09:20 PM

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i was going to rewire my 68 and was wondering if AAW is marked on the wires like EZ wiring is? thanks

leddzepp 01-23-2012 09:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 68steppsidee (Post 5141729)
i was going to rewire my 68 and was wondering if AAW is marked on the wires like EZ wiring is? thanks

AAW is the closest thing you will find to NOS. It is identical in every way to the OEM harness. Plug and Play.

CG 01-23-2012 10:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dukkie (Post 5141047)
Doing it all myself. Just ordered new cab mounts so id like to tackle both of these at the same time while everythings going back together



thats the most important part CG!!!!!

was it Musclerodz?

Yes, I think that was my guy!

matthew79 01-23-2012 10:24 PM

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I did a search on this subject about a week ago after seeing the ez kit on Ebay for under $175. From the different posts I read everyone who used the ez kit was happy with it and felt it would have been unnecessary to spend 2-3x the money on a painless kit or something similar in that price range. I think maybe it might be something similar to buying a Monster hdmi cable for $100 when a no name $10 cable will perform just as well.
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OldCreek 01-23-2012 10:40 PM

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My thoughts:

I did AAW and it was easy...so easy I bought another kit for my crew. I read posts on how others bought a generic kit and were having issues getting the right terminals/fittings, etc.

However, it was so easy I wonder if using a generic kit would be easy, too...especially after having already rewired with an AAW kit. Plus, having the original wiring harness to steal terminals from and cross check with makes it appealing to buy a generic kit to save some cash!

dukkie 01-24-2012 01:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by matthew79 (Post 5141871)
From the different posts I read everyone who used the ez kit was happy with it and felt it would have been unnecessary to spend 2-3x the money on a painless kit or something similar in that price range.
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Originally Posted by OldCreek (Post 5141903)
having the original wiring harness to steal terminals from and cross check with makes it appealing to buy a generic kit to save some cash!

This is the one thing that keeps messing with my head, I do not NEED any of the above listed products. My truck fires up and runs from Houston to New Orleans as it sits now. Every exterior light i have fixed, the interior lights i havent bothered with. That being said the tail lights are fixed with 7 twist on connectors and any color autozone wire i had in the garage at the time, the electric fans is running black wire spliced to a red wire spliced to a yellow spliced to a black, the starter wire is half green and two colors red. I REALLY WANT the above mentioned products to clean all this jumble, But is splicing an EZ wiring kit into 30 year old terminals and such really an improvement from what i already have? or for the extra 200 bucks get new terminals connectors and such which i dont really need but are already built into the wiring? I say yea if your going thru the whole re wire process why not re wire all of it beginning to end. Its not like they sell a 3/4 length wire kit where you have to provide the last 12 inches to reach the wires destination, so why buy one that needs the last 3 inches where whatever terminals and connectors or socket rests and have brand new wiring running 30 year old sockets and bulbs that will just end up burning up sooner than later and have to be spliced replaced (by more random autozone wire)

TobyArnot 01-24-2012 08:35 AM

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Only my $0.02 worth. Clear up some confusion first. Connector = the plastic housing. Terminal = the actual contact. My point: If you feel you have the skills, the E-Z harness has more than enough wire length to accommodate new (terminals), not to mention, it's a lot less $$$. The real objective is to replace all that 40 year old, brittle wiring. Most of the actual terminals are Packard 56 and can be found a lot of places. Mostly depends on the time and patience. I tend to be ANAL, so I spend way too much time on little stuff. I also take the time to install multi-pin disconnects on each major branch of circuits. I do this so I can mount the panel without wrestling all those bundles of wire. Mount the fuse panel, then run each major branch individually.


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