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NASTY-LSX 02-16-2014 03:27 PM

best anti theft switch/toggle whats your thought
 
looks like im going to be using my K20 as a DD for a few month. I want to install a anti theft switch. I remember people used to use a toggle switch connected the hot wire of the coil. Is this the best way??

Whats your thoughts or what have you done. ;) mine is a 85. Not FI or TBI. Its a carb with a Hei dizzy. I could always put an alarm, but i want to make it as if they are going to steal it they are going to have to use a tow truck..

nekkidhillbilly 02-16-2014 03:29 PM

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yeah that or just a kill switch on the key source.

RandyP 02-16-2014 03:31 PM

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My favorite was when I used the cigarette lighter as the switch. Without the cigarette lighter pushed in, my vehicle would not crank.

So not only was there a "switch" but you could take the lighter with you in your pocket pretty easy.

Not that it is very hard to bypass once you know where it is, but that was the idea to slow them down so much they'd get frustrated and leave and move on to the next one.

79Betty 02-16-2014 03:34 PM

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I had an 79 automatic, with a 78 manual wiring had a NSS attached to a clutch pedal. Since i had to clutch in the auto i could push the switch in manually so no start.

NASTY-LSX 02-16-2014 03:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyP (Post 6528776)
My favorite was when I used the cigarette lighter as the switch. Without the cigarette lighter pushed in, my vehicle would not crank.

So not only was there a "switch" but you could take the lighter with you in your pocket pretty easy.

Not that it is very hard to bypass once you know where it is, but that was the idea to slow them down so much they'd get frustrated and leave and move on to the next one.

Now thats what im talking about. Tricky stuff there!!! :metal:

nekkidhillbilly 02-16-2014 03:41 PM

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pet mt lion works too.

NASTY-LSX 02-16-2014 04:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nekkidhillbilly (Post 6528793)
pet mt lion works too.


LMFAO ;):metal:

D13 02-17-2014 07:21 AM

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6.2 diesel with manual glow plug switch under the dash. Simply will not start without glows, and no one knows how long to hold them if they even can find the switch.

deth_1970 02-17-2014 09:53 AM

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had a toggle in the neutral safety switch, it fit right into the factory plug, worked nice tucked up under the dash, on off or switch removed

nekkidhillbilly 02-17-2014 09:57 AM

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my 84 could start with no key. no one wanted to steal it.

Tucson38 02-17-2014 10:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deth_1970 (Post 6529912)
had a toggle in the neutral safety switch, it fit right into the factory plug, worked nice tucked up under the dash, on off or switch removed

This sounds like a winner!

willett 02-17-2014 04:48 PM

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Fuel pump relay on a toggle is another way to go

zaccaglin 02-17-2014 04:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D13 (Post 6529803)
6.2 diesel with manual glow plug switch under the dash. Simply will not start without glows, and no one knows how long to hold them if they even can find the switch.

Same thing here, even more fun when you label that switch, FOG LIGHTS. Keeps them guessing everytime.

savatreatabvr 02-23-2014 01:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyP (Post 6528776)
My favorite was when I used the cigarette lighter as the switch. Without the cigarette lighter pushed in, my vehicle would not crank.

So not only was there a "switch" but you could take the lighter with you in your pocket pretty easy.

Not that it is very hard to bypass once you know where it is, but that was the idea to slow them down so much they'd get frustrated and leave and move on to the next one.

But won't you be putting a HOT lighter in your pocket? My solution was to install a recessed magnetic alarm contact from a home alarm system in the dash so a magnet would have to be placed exactly where the alarm contact is for it to start. It's been working perfectly for several years!

RandyP 02-23-2014 03:24 PM

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No, the lighter did not actually work.

Anyways, unless you had just started your truck and then decided to kill it and lock it up and take it with you... it would be totally cooled.

Skunksmash 02-23-2014 09:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by willett (Post 6530470)
Fuel pump relay on a toggle is another way to go

That was always my favorite idea, some kind of fuel kill switch. No fuel no go! And no bypass cause you can buy those ones that have a big weird key/lever thing that you can take out of the truck with you if you want to. They had them on that show "My classic car".

INSIDIOUS '86 02-23-2014 09:58 PM

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Anyone look into the magnetic kill switch? You carry a magnet on your key chain or on your dash and when you put it over the magnetic relay and start the truck. And the current would keep the switch closed till you killed it.

BONUSCAB 02-23-2014 10:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nekkidhillbilly (Post 6528793)
pet mt lion works too.


People can get passed a dog, but no one effe's with a lion! This **** is effin crazy. I don't know how lion got into the neighborhood. I heard some growlin' and ****. So my roommate and I, we go to check this **** out. I look up in the tree, and there's the effin king of the jungle! It was staring right at me. I almost **** my effin pants. So I ran inside and called the 5-0.

nekkidhillbilly 02-24-2014 10:46 AM

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pretty common to see mountain lions in ky. not the same as a real one but still will eat your ass.

N2TRUX 02-24-2014 11:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deth_1970 (Post 6529912)
had a toggle in the neutral safety switch, it fit right into the factory plug, worked nice tucked up under the dash, on off or switch removed

I have used this method many times. The best thing here is it will not turn over so they have no idea why it wont start.

INSIDIOUS '86 02-24-2014 12:46 PM

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No choke carb and a engine that won't run unless warm. Add manual steering and your basically the only person that can drive it.

Oldriginal86 02-24-2014 11:26 PM

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Seems these days if it has a clutch pedal, it's safe.

dbash 02-25-2014 02:29 AM

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My thought is this.... I am not posting on here what I have or where its at.....

Gumby 02-25-2014 03:37 AM

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hidden choke- instant flood

hidden park or clutch safety switch bypass - no start

kjc292 02-25-2014 03:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BONUSCAB (Post 6540905)
People can get passed a dog, but no one effe's with a lion! This **** is effin crazy. I don't know how lion got into the neighborhood. I heard some growlin' and ****. So my roommate and I, we go to check this **** out. I look up in the tree, and there's the effin king of the jungle! It was staring right at me. I almost **** my effin pants. So I ran inside and called the 5-0.


lol nice grandmas boy, dante. "wait am i growing antlers?"

andrewmp6 02-25-2014 04:12 AM

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I always used a oem switch that is a option i don't have so it looks stock and not out of place.

DREAMER1 02-25-2014 08:42 AM

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I read somewhere a guy had train horns. So he wired it to button next to his radio and marked it starter...soooo...when a guy breaks in and tries to look for the kill switch and presses the button the horns go off.

dieseldawg142 02-25-2014 01:25 PM

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my crew i have a battery shut-off, mostly for camping so i have one good battery, but works as a theft deterrent. also have a switch on the NSS.
my stepper('90), i put a toggle on the clutch switch (which as mentioned, just having a clutch works!)
wife's envoy, too much factory stuff to start dicking with

imjeff 02-25-2014 01:37 PM

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The cigarette lighter trick works by wiring it to your tach terminal. When the lighter is pushed in it will not start because the coil is grounded. Make sure you put whatever you decide on in a place that you don't need to reach for. Thieves often watch you for a while to establish habits.

BONUSCAB 02-25-2014 07:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imjeff (Post 6543750)
The cigarette lighter trick works by wiring it to your tach terminal. When the lighter is pushed in it will not start because the coil is grounded. Make sure you put whatever you decide on in a place that you don't need to reach for. Thieves often watch you for a while to establish habits.


If they are watching you enough to establish your habits the only thing that will help you is a good insurance policy.

wraprail 02-27-2014 10:23 PM

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I would not recommend grounding your HEI or aftermarket ignition. The lighter trick is great and can be used same as any switch. You wire it to a relay and it can be a starter kill, ignition kill or use it as a headlight switch if you want.

StarDust 02-27-2014 10:35 PM

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Before i replaced my steering column the truck would not even try to crank if you didn't hold the steering wheel up lol it was a tilt column got a few friends who tried to start it

Gumby 02-27-2014 10:46 PM

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12v fog machine with pepper spray liquid in it , under dash ;)

gmachinz 02-27-2014 11:19 PM

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I did this to a guys motorcycle seat frame once-relay power from the ignition coil to the metal center of a steel aftermarket steering wheel.....and this is IF would be thief manages to get your truck started, the coil will shock the sheet out of him at 35,000+ volts! If you have a 24V starting system you can trigger several 115 decibel horn strobes mounted inside the cab-thief would be deaf and shocked sheetless in no time!

imjeff 02-27-2014 11:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wraprail (Post 6548776)
I would not recommend grounding your HEI or aftermarket ignition. The lighter trick is great and can be used same as any switch. You wire it to a relay and it can be a starter kill, ignition kill or use it as a headlight switch if you want.

The whole point was to make the vehicle difficult to steal. Hot wiring a grounded coil doesn't work...hot wiring around a relay does. The object isn't to routinely ground out your coil, it is to keep unwanted thieves from easily taking your ride. I would rather have someone run my battery don trying to start my truck rather than try to replace it with insurance money.

Jeff

spencer_41188 02-28-2014 04:57 AM

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I have the air horn labeled start among other things

some one tried it one night and by the time I got out there the only thing missing was my ash tray ... you know how hard it is to find an ash tray these days

wraprail 03-03-2014 01:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imjeff (Post 6548928)
The whole point was to make the vehicle difficult to steal. Hot wiring a grounded coil doesn't work...hot wiring around a relay does. The object isn't to routinely ground out your coil, it is to keep unwanted thieves from easily taking your ride. I would rather have someone run my battery don trying to start my truck rather than try to replace it with insurance money.

Jeff

Just hope nobody tries the lighter while you are driving down the freeway

imjeff 03-03-2014 01:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wraprail (Post 6554664)
Just hope nobody tries the lighter while you are driving down the freeway

Yea, I would have to....pull it out and motor on.

Corts60 03-03-2014 01:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D13 (Post 6529803)
6.2 diesel with manual glow plug switch under the dash. Simply will not start without glows, and no one knows how long to hold them if they even can find the switch.

My Olds diesel is wired the same way!

Corts60 03-03-2014 01:56 AM

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I also have a normally closed momentary switch mounted on my radiator support so that when my hood is popped the horns go off. It works wonderfully. There is a hidden switch to shut it off but thieves would never find it. And the horns are incredibly loud….


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