Bad Deal With low&slow
 

I sent a set of fiberglass roll pans to low&slow in Kuna, ID. He was supposed to send me some parts back to trade for them. Well that has been close to a month ago and still no parts. He always has a different excuse everytime I try to contact him. He said his first excuse was his girlfriend left him, then he said he has had several different surgeries... also he just told me last week he would be shipping my parts this week. Well still no parts or a response with a tracking #. I understand if he had surgery but gee's it has been a month now. Be careful if you ever have any dealings with this guy!

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You'll get your parts. If you want proof of the surgeris, I'll send that too and I'll also upload it on here. I'm also going in tomorrow at noon for another one. I'll send you proof of that too. The girl is no reason for not sending the parts, but when I can't physically do anything, it's hard to gather parts, let alone drive anywhere.

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I've already told you that I understand if you have surgeries. The problem is when you don't communicate and when you say that the parts were being shipped.

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I never said they were being shipped. I said I would get them shipped asap

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You had sent me a text message saying you had it boxed up already and that you were sending it out. That was on the 7th & 11th of March.

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I fully understand the surgery part, however, it is still theft if the parts don't get shipped. Please stay in communication and be honest as much as possible to avoid issues. I wish you the best on your recovery.

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You knew nothing of these surgeries when you made the deal? Don't mean to sound unsympathetic, but I'm not seeing details on the nature of these surgeries. A sudden thing? You didn't box the parts up once deal was made? When it's money for payment you wait to get the funds before sending. But with a straight up trade you both send once the deal is made, right? If you got your parts he should have his. Normally surgery is a personal matter and no one's business, but there must be details here since you offered that up as your excuse. Not sure why you ever even mentioned your break-up. You have to admit it paints a picture that doesn't look good. Just do what you agreed to do. If you can't don't you know anyone that would help?

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Still no answer from this guy. I hope he can sleep good at night, screwing people over like that! I mean even if he had surgery last friday, and he very well could have, he could have at least contacted me with a response. At first I felt sorry/sympathy for this guy, but not anymore! Karma is a bi.ch!

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With all due respect you should never have entered into this deal if you cannot 100% complete the transaction or make arrangements for the transaction to be completed... It truly becomes a honor thing and that is something we are loosing in this country only to quickly... Be a Stand up guy and get this completed even if you need help from friends or family...

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Maybe it would be easier to just send the parts back? They should be boxed and ready to go. Even - Steven - no harm done.

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How do you get to/from your doctor appointments and or surgeries? Can't whoever is helping you take care of shipping it for you? Or if it is your intent to screw over OL67C10
just say so and move on, don't just keep stringing the dude along. Don't get me wrong, I know there are things that can happen that are out of your control but sounds to me (and others on here) like you have no intentions on sending his parts. I've spent more time in and out of hospitals in the last 3 years dealing with cancer than I care to admit but I have still either been able to take care of business or at the very least, have someone take care of it for me. Do the right thing man!

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I don't think he has even signed back on since March 28th, plus he won't respond to text messages, emails or phone calls. I guess I'll just have to chalk is up as a lesson learned. Everybody else I have dealt with on here has been excellent!

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I see where he logged on last night. Still no answer from this guy about my parts. I'm going to contact the sherrifs department in his area and see if they will do anything about this. I hate to be like that but it has been over 2 months now since he has had the parts that I shipped him.

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Very sad when you have to do this. Email them a copy of the entire thread as well. Since he was online last night, its safe to assume he read this.

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I see that he logged back in on 5-4-15 at 11:05 PM. And I still haven't got my parts or a reply from this guy! I also see that he's trying to buy parts from other people now. Hope they read this first!

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Wow

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Did you ever contact the sheriffs?

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Not yet. Was giving the guy the benefit of the doubt... but I'm going to this week if he don't respond back. I really don't like to go that route, but I don't think there is any other way to go about getting either the parts he promised me or to get my parts back. Especially since this has been dragging out since February now.

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On 3/27/15:

Today is 5/11/15. What are you saying now?

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Don't even wait any longer. Just call the Sheriffs and see what's going on.

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Man this sucks. All these great guys gals on her and theirs always that one bad apple. What a shame.

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Its now 5/22/15...any updates?

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Need to get an IP ban going, on people like this. If not, he'll just create a new screen name and do it again. He may still be able to, but there is no reason to make it easy on him. And it might just make an example out of him for other people.

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thanks for the idea lol...


Have you heard anything from him yet?You know his acess is limited and if he is banned you lose full contact.

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Issue is...even though he'll be banned he can still create a new account and come back. All you need is a change of email and address new screen name and password.

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Haven't heard anything from him. His phone # says its no longer in service, I have sent him emails and pm'ed him on here. Still no response. I talked to the police but it's not worth all the hassle I would have to go through for pressing charges on him. Go ahead and ban him if you want, he's not going to ever ship my parts anyways or he would have already done it.

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I can post the guys name and adress on here for everyone to see, but I don't know if I'm allowed to do that or not? That way if he does log in under a different screen name... at least maybe somebody could figure it out before they get screwed over by him.

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An IP ban will work for a good while. A new email address won't change your IP address. And they can be tricky to get changed. Now, he could just go down to the public library and post, and use that IP address, with a new screen name. Or go to a friend's house. But he'll never be able to say he's the same guy, and if he pulls the same BS just ban that screen name and IP as well. Sooner or later he'll give up and go somewhere else or stop ripping people off. Its kind of like with my buddy's creditors. That he always lists me as a reference for. Do they have 5 phone numbers to bother me from, when looking for him? Sure. Do I have all 5 on blacklist so they can't bother me anymore? You bet.

In short, the admins could easily crack down on thieves once they're known.

Any public information is completely legal to post online. It has to be something that anyone could go down to public records and see, though. But that would include his name and address, but not his phone number.

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I see he logged back in on 6-8-15. Guess his account wasn't suspended.

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Doesn't look good on the part of the Admins. When I see stuff like this, it makes me question renewing my paid subscription.

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This has nothing to do with the administration or the board. Don't lose focus. The onus is on low& slow...ironic.

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I have no idea why you are blaming the admins for anything. They didn't steal parts.
I could be wrong, but I am almost certain the admins have a way to ban someone from posting and starting new threads, but they can still check in. I think they frequently do it in these situations so the ones being accused can check into the thread like this one.

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So has anything been solved here?

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Nope, still no parts or response.

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He is banned now. A few things, I thought I had replied but guess not.

1. IP banning does not work in this day and age. It has not for years. There are other ways to handle it that work a lot better.
2. Obviously we do not catch every person who rejoins using a spoofer etc.. however, most we do see and know and silently remove.
3. Not sure why it was assumed nothing was done here. The user had no access to anything but admin contact and this forum. That was done to leave a means of contact with the op since no offline info was exchanged.
4. I am truly sorry this happened to you. I should had removed the user after the first slow ship, however, I like to give folks a chance..
5. I do not feel this makes the admin look bad. We have rules in place, ways we handle things, and go above and beyond to help. Had the buyer and seller exchanged info such as phone, full name addy etc.. Then the OP could had gone to law enforcement to handle the issue as it is fraud. Blaming the staff here for the issues is really silly.

This is considered resolved on our end at this point. Sorry you had an issue. Perhaps depending upon how you paid, you can find talk to the one providing funds and finf out how to claim fraud. Good luck