Modern Ignorant headlights
 

Hello all,

Thought i would share a mod,,

I am adding headlight to the front of my square until it is the brightness rid on the road. I DON"T CARE anymore.

I was passed by a new f350 the other days and from the factory it has ~8 headlight on at one time.. I am going to add lights until i get a ticket. I will still run my original two low beam to be respectful of other classics

Here is my mod.

first, with a series of relays or one sweeeet MSD 4 channel + one diode i change the OEM lights They get battery source power and when i switch to high beam the lows still remain on.

Second. I have unused cruise control. With that you get neg ground, 1 constant and 2 momentary. With this combination i am adding Hella black magics without having to cut up the dash. I can turn on 3 more circuits from the multi stem. If you did not have cruise, you could swap in a cruise multi-lever. I currently have two hellas in the bumper. Mounting 2 more on top of the bumper that i can aim. I also will add 2 more bk magics in the bumper. I will then have 10 headlight on when i pass a cybertruck or some other ignorant new car


Anyhow,, I will add more pics as i go, waiting for the MSD relay. all of the wires are easily accessible.

If anyone want some wire diagrams i will sketch some up

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Not only are todays lights ridiculous, mofos drive around with their high beams on, and cops dont do anything about it. Im high enough in my lowered '78 C10, that It doesnt bother me (that much), but when my current daily driver sedan gets replaced im going to have to get a new pickup or SUV, because the lights are unbareable in a car.

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I understand the frustration. Not sure becoming part of the problem is really the answer. I used to assume many of the single car wrecks around here were deer related. The driver swerving to miss the deer and crashing into the trees or rolling. Now wondering how many are due to the driver being blinded by the light and running off the road.

About a year ago, I quit cleaning the rear window on my Escape so that the bright lights behind didn't flood the cabin with blinding levels.

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Sadly, i know longer enjoy taking a cruise at night in any of my classics. I used to jump in my 67, or an old Cj and take the kids out for ice cream/pizza etc and now i take the wife's 2025.

When i am on a main roda, i wear sunglasses.


Chris

the is the relay i am waiting on,, cleans up a lot of spaghetti.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-7564-HC

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Sooo, while this might come across as blasphemy, a lot of the Jeep CJ guys are putting Toyota headlights on their Jeeps. I'm saying that here because the early squarebodies use the same round headlamps as the Jeep CJ's.

Part number is 81110-60P70

You get two glass housings made by Koito, H4 bulbs, a wiring harness with relays, and zip ties.

The best part? The whole kit is about $25 at most Toyota dealers.

So, while not any help to OP in this thread, for the guys with round headlight squarebodies, this is a very high quality and cheap headlight upgrade!

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Just curious, does the Toyota 81110-60P70 fit into the 72 headlight buckets.

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I installed a set of three in my 74
Fit perfect. Bright. Clean Sharp cutoff

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half way to full retard..

A little follow up. Using the MSD relay is the only way to go,, so clean and easy.. has neg or pos trigger.

The Cruise control stem has 3 events;

ON= blue/Green constant to ground.
Set= Blue/red momentary contact to ground.
Resume=Blue white, momentary to ground.

I am using the OEM high beam to affect the OEM high beam,,
High beam does not turn off low beam using a 50 cent resistor
I might swap out the 4703 LB for 4701 HB. ( 4 on at the same time for high)
Set of Bumper Hella Black Magics turn on with the ON of cruise control.


I still have SET and RESUME for two more events using a latching relay. I may use SET for train horns since that would need a momentary action.


If I still need more, (passed a Rivian tonight) I will double up.


I know I am a geek using the Cruise stem but hate adding garbage to the dash. On my 67 race car, (no wipers) I repurposed the wiper knob for electric fans/pumps etc. It also has three events, low/high/washer.


Chris

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Unfortunatly, doesn't appear so.

I googled and the H5006 that your 72 takes is a 5.75" round bulb while the H6024 used in Jeeps, 73-79 squares, and the Toyota bulbs are 7" round bulbs.

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Very good wiring job there. I like reusing the factory controls to work accessories instead of adding a bunch of non-factory switches.

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Dude get one of them 8000k 750,000 lumen light bars and a train cow catcher on the front of your truck so you can blind everyone then run them off the road . especially when you tail gate people blind them in their rear view mirror , then rear end them and push them of the road and down a steep cliff
You'll be bad ass dude

Wrong wires,
 

Hello all,

My original wire code was wrong,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


to my knowledge, on the multi-stem;

White= common
Blue = ON
Green = RESUME.
Red = SET


If you use this switch for anything,, check first your first.

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Thanks for letting me know.

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Full Retard Complete,

I kept the OEM warm color high and lows so not to blind innocent people

THe recessed hellas come on with the ON setting and the pedestal mounts come on with RESUME. both turn off together..


Still Half as bright as a modern car.

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Finally update,

Never sourced the proper latching relay. With MSD i get battery source power to the lights.

Channel 1 is low beam
channel 2 high beam
a diode allows the high to keep low beam on so now 4 lights on high.

Cruise stalk,
channel 3 via ON triggers the flush mount bumper LEDs lights.
Channel 4 via RESUME triggers the top pedestal LEDs.
using a diode again,, the extra bosch relay has a jumper from channel 3 to keep the 5 pin on and this triggers channel 4.

Turning off cruise control turns off both. channel 3 must be one for channel 4 to work. It is okay because to actuate resume, you have to turn it on anyway.



A little messy but got what i wanted. Looking now for decent Beam Leds for the top. Currently all LEDs are flood.


Chris

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I am with you.

I am thinking LED headlights so the idiots can see the light in thier waking nightmares. They are typically the least focused beams, and I will get cheap ones to insure that as much as possible.

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If his truck is the blue and white 67-72 in his avatar it takes two 7" round bulbs.

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Yes Sir, it is the blue and white 72 in my avatar. I was wondering because I am interested in getting brighter lights for night driving. I did the relay upgrade awhile back thinking it may help. Not much changed but I think it was a good decision to do it.


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Your truck is too nice to add extra lights on the front. My square has 600k miles

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Thanks Chris989, No, what I meant was changing the headlights to brighter lights. Something that fits where the original lights are now.

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It may be worth trying out the Sylvania silverstars. I run those on my GMT400WT and it made a big difference.

Sylvania SilverStar bulbs produce a whiter light (around 3640K) compared to standard halogen bulbs. The claim is 10% more brightness and 18% greater whiteness than stock bulbs, according to Sylvania testing. Quote: "They enhance visibility and mimic natural daylight, improving peripheral vision."

Standard original equipment type halogens are a yellowish-white light (~3200K).

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. The Silverstars don't last as long as regular halogen bulbs cuz they burn hotter.

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I have silverstars with the relay upgrade. Very happy. It made a huge difference. I don't plan on making any other changes.

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Ya'll need this guy, I had some in my 76, was night and day difference. And they are just plug and play.

https://rmslighting.net/

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https://www.summitracing.com/parts/h...SABEgIUyPD_BwE

or

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/LMPH...1Vw_ayu1hnB88T

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There's also this one. I put one on my motorcycle, https://www.summitracing.com/parts/p...oaAoZpEALw_wcB

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The Toyota kit linked above is a way way better deal....

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I did these hellas on my 79 burb with relays using the bulbs that come with it. Not goign to light up the night like crazy but I do think a big improvement
HELLA 002850811

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How do you like this relay? I was really tempted to use it for my headlights and electric fan relays. I got nervous when I saw not waterproof like they expected it to be inside the cab and bought a leash 2 relay kit

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I did not catch the water proof? So far it is great. it is on the rear side my my radiator support so unless i sink the truck i think it will be okay.

For function it cannot be beat.

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my lights with relays

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That toyota Kit 81110-60P70 seems like the bees knees. I ordered a set for my '78, my '63 and for some other random car I havent bought yet

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This thread is awesome! I feel as if I've lost half the enjoyment in my life because I don't want to drive at night being blinded by them. And I love night drives/rides.

I'm with you 100% on these idiotic new retarded lights! I especially like that part where you say; " I DON'T CARE anymore."
I know it's wrong, but have used rollbar lighting in the past to return the favor and fry some retinas because of it. :devil:

Oh man! DB that truck is nice! I've done the relay trick on several of my old iron with great results. Did I mention how nice that truck is? :metal:

:lol::lol::lol::lol: dayumm :lol::lol::lol::lol:
I actually spit coffee on that one!! :mm:

Bruddah! Sounds like me. That last sentence is over the top! :smoke: :mm:


The problem with all the aftermarket LED/HID lighting is that 90% of it is just BRIGHT A$$ LIGHTS without properly focused beams with sharp cut offs that are more like flood lights, which SUCK!!
Those are just as bad, or worse, than the new vehicle retard lighting IMHO. Properly upgraded and adjusted factory lighting goes a long way in how you see at night.

Especially on bikes that run their crappy aftermarket lights on bright during the day for "safety" purposes. I ride my bikes more than I drive my vehicles, so don't bash me for saying that. I despise bike riders using these gimmicky flood lights and off road auxiliary lighting on the street.

Don't get me wrong, I like upgraded bulbs in the proper housings that have focused beams. >Properly adjusted factory lighting goes a long way in how you see at night.<
I've never needed, or wanted auxiliary lighting on my bikes, and I own more than you have toes and fingers. :mm:
EDIT: Been riding street and off road bikes for over 50 years/