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Boise69 01-18-2007 05:24 PM

A rear end question
 
Today I was under my truck cutting out my old rotted muffler...

I tried the "mark the driveshaft and spin the tire" trick to see what gears I have... the drive shaft turned 1.5 times to 1 revolution of the tire. what does that mean? whats my gears

Next question: my axle seems to be aftermarket, here are the numbers next to the cover... CN1 (upside down) K138 on the driver side and L3 stamped on the pass side. what do i have?

thanks

BowTieOgre 01-18-2007 05:53 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boise69 (Post 1992469)
Today I was under my truck cutting out my old rotted muffler...

I tried the "mark the driveshaft and spin the tire" trick to see what gears I have... the drive shaft turned 1.5 times to 1 revolution of the tire. what does that mean? whats my gears

Next question: my axle seems to be aftermarket, here are the numbers next to the cover... CN1 (upside down) K138 on the driver side and L3 stamped on the pass side. what do i have?

thanks

I know when I pulled my rearend out I counted each half revolution of the diff to each full revolution of the tire. It came out to a little less than 4 so I think I have a 3.73 and it sounds like yours might be a 3.08 if that is possible. Maybe someone will sound off to confirm.

FYI my rearend was a non posi.

Solver 01-18-2007 06:23 PM

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Only way to tell ratio by axle numbers is to get the numbers off the top of the axle tube passenger side. takes a little wire brushing to see them but they are there. with those we can tell you what it originally had in it.

jimmydean 01-18-2007 06:47 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
Mine says right on the glove box sticker "3.73 Gear ratio" or something

msgross 01-18-2007 06:52 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
mine doesn't say it but it has 3.73's. My front axle had a tag on one of the bolts and the back axle will have numbers on the ring gear (but you have to take the diff cover off) never hurts to change oil anyway! Once you have those numbers there is a chart with the teeth count that will answer your question without a guess...

1969k10stepside 01-18-2007 06:55 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
On the ring gear look for these numbers,compare the numbers to ones listed below to find ratio.Example:41,11 on the ring gear means 3:73s.

Ratio 2.56:1 - Tooth Combination 41,16
Ratio 2.73:1 - Tooth Combination 41,15
Ratio 3.07:1 - Tooth Combination 43,14
Ratio 3.08:1 - Tooth Combination 40,13
Ratio 3.08:1 - Tooth Combination 37,12
Ratio 3.31:1 - Tooth Combination 43,13
Ratio 3.36:1 - Tooth Combination 37,11
Ratio 3.42:1 - Tooth Combination 41,12
Ratio 3.55:1 - Tooth Combination 39,11
Ratio 3.73:1 - Tooth Combination 41,11
Ratio 4.10:1 - Tooth Combination 41,10
Ratio 4.11:1 - Tooth Combination 37,9

Longhorn Man 01-18-2007 06:59 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
with an open diff, don't you need to turn the wheel twice?
That would come out to a 3.07, which is what comes in a small block/auto truck.

WorkinLonghorn 01-18-2007 07:11 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
I'd say you have 3.07 or 3.08. Mine has a little stamped metal tag attached to the lowest bolt that says 41:11 3.73-1 .

Boise69 01-18-2007 07:16 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
OK, i'll check tomorrow when i'm back under there and look for these numbers you speak of. i'll even pull the cover off and look in there too. any recomendations on gear lube to fill it back up with and how much does it take??

msgross 01-18-2007 07:55 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
depends on your rear end and diff cover.... 90W gear oil and 2 qts for a stock 12 bolt but confirm that number first.

Dowdy 01-18-2007 07:56 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
If you have a 3.07, which I have, can you put 3.73 gears in that housing? I was told at a car show by some guys who had the same trucks, that you could not.

Boise69 01-18-2007 07:59 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
well this will be interesting. i'll tackle this tomorrow. It has a chrome cover with 12 red bolts

msgross 01-18-2007 08:25 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
drive it around before you empty the oil... better when it a little warm look for chunks of metal in the oil...small shavings are common. I looked in the service manual for capacities and it says "as required"...go figure. Check your operators manual or a haynes manual... good luck. DOn't forget to pick up oil and a new diff seal, little rtv couldn't hurt either

Boise69 01-18-2007 08:48 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
torque values on the cover?

msgross 01-18-2007 09:28 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
service manual says 20 ft lbs... like an oil pan drain plug...!

mnunn454 01-18-2007 10:07 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowdy (Post 1992668)
If you have a 3.07, which I have, can you put 3.73 gears in that housing? I was told at a car show by some guys who had the same trucks, that you could not.

Assuming it's a truck 12-bolt rear end, short answer is "No".
However, you can put 3.42's in it.

Reason is 3.73's and numerically higher R&Ps take a different (a #4) carrier while yours (if it's a 3.07) take's a #3 carrier. What you can do is use a ring gear spacer with a 3.73 on your carrier. Another option is buy a "thick" ring and pinon gear set that will do the same thing. These are fine for stock applications but may not be for high performance/racing apps.

Let us know what you find out tomorrow (besides the fact that hypoid gear lube stinks).

Longhorn Man 01-18-2007 11:05 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
Don't use straight 90 weight. Get 80/90 gear lube, and if you have the money, get synthetic. 10 times better than the conventional oil.

chopper103in 01-19-2007 01:12 AM

Re: A rear end question
 
fill it up to the bottom of the fill hole

Boise69 01-19-2007 12:53 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chopper103in (Post 1993171)
fill it up to the bottom of the fill hole

chopper you need to make a drive up to rockford with that truck to talk and compare trucks!! oh and help me too ;)

bobthecop 01-19-2007 01:12 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
I was gonna say, fill it 'til it starts running out, let run 'til it quits. It's full. BG makes a great synthetic gear lube, look for a shop that carries BG products. I don't think any auto parts stores carry them. Just repair shops.

chopper103in 01-19-2007 04:39 PM

Re: A rear end question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boise69 (Post 1993571)
chopper you need to make a drive up to rockford with that truck to talk and compare trucks!! oh and help me too ;)



we will have to do that when the weather gets warm and the roads are clean


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