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VA72C10 02-04-2009 10:37 PM

NOS or Repop Tailgate? Can you tell???
 
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It is definitely a GM gate from several things I was told to look at. Clean edges, welds, correct weight, etc. It's not NOS because it's not in the box, has been primered, and has the holes drilled for upper and lower moldings. But it's BY FAR the nicest gate I've ever laid eyes on.










I picked up a gate in perfect shape this evening. I was told it was from a truck in California. When he bought the truck in 92 it was separate from the truck. So it's 17 years old and has been in storage. The truck was sold several years ago. Were repops made back then? Were/are any repops made with the drilling for the trim? I guess that would tell me if it's Repop or NOS. Either way it's in perfect shape without a single dent or scratch. He added the grey primer but no body work was done. If it's a repop I will use it and do the handle relocator to it. If it's NOS, I don't want to mess up a NOS gate so I will sell it.

LockDoc 02-04-2009 10:44 PM

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I can check my new take off tomorrow to see if the spot welds and stuff look the same. Judging from the pics I would say it's probably NOS but it's really hard to tell without seeing it in person.

LockDoc

VA72C10 02-04-2009 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc (Post 3125849)
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I can check my new take off tomorrow to see if the spot welds and stuff look the same. Judging from the pics I would say it's probably NOS but it's really hard to tell without seeing it in person.

LockDoc

Thanks for the quick answer...I'd appreciate you checking it out.

71swb4x4 02-04-2009 10:47 PM

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Can you weigh it? It would be fun to find someone with a known NOS gate, and someone with a known repop, and have them both weigh them.

VA72C10 02-04-2009 11:09 PM

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I have a Repop in the box....That's a good idea. When I get home and get some batteries for my scale I will weigh them both.

67ChevyRedneck 02-04-2009 11:27 PM

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When I was at the carlisle swap meet I picked up several repop gates from several different vendors, most of which were probably the same manufacturer. I could tell as soon as I picked them up they were nothing like a stock gate. They feel noticeably lighter. Looking at your pics it appears to be either a NOS gate or a great OEM gate.

If it is "NOS" screw selling it. You'll have a hard time finding one that nice again for a decent price (maybe you'll luck out) but I say screw it and use it :D

VA72C10 02-04-2009 11:31 PM

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When I was at the carlisle swap meet I picked up several repop gates from several different vendors, most of which were probably the same manufacturer. I could tell as soon as I picked them up they were nothing like a stock gate. They feel noticeably lighter.

If it is "NOS" screw selling it. You'll have a hard time finding one that nice again for a decent price (maybe you'll luck out) but I say screw it and use it :D

But I don't plan on running any trim and plan on doing the tailgate handle relocation mod. I also have considered doing the gate full custom like these pictures

1970cstblazer 02-04-2009 11:42 PM

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That sure looks like a GM gate. The best way to know for sure is to weigh it. All of the repops are lightweight, and dent/bend VERY easily.

ksjh1316 02-04-2009 11:52 PM

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It looks atleast like a great OEM gate or possibly NOS I noticed the front edges look a lot cleaner than the repop gate I have which I had to do a lot of body work on to get it to look right.

teeitup 02-04-2009 11:58 PM

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I've had 7 NOS gates and none of them had trim holes, it would be hard to sell as NOS being in primer and the trim holes.

VA72C10 02-05-2009 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by teeitup (Post 3126016)
I've had 7 NOS gates and none of them had trim holes, it would be hard to sell as NOS being in primer and the trim holes.

So some repop gates come with the trim holes?

I wouldn't sell it as NOS no matter what because it's been primed and isn't in a box and I have no way to be 100% sure...but after watching original gates that are painted selling for 750-850 on ebay...I don't see modifying a gate worth that much with a flip kit.

sameyrasmea72 02-05-2009 02:28 AM

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Do you have a pic of the very top edge. The older repros (like the age your talking about) were more square rather that rounded off.

see ten 02-05-2009 07:06 AM

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When I did my K10 (about 12 yrs ago) the only repro tailgates available were garbage! They cost $100 and had no letters stamped in them. Mine had two dips in it from where my hands were the first time I closed it. I replaced it when the Goodmarks came out. Considering the age of the gate and the fact that it has letters and trim holes, I'm going to call it a nice original. Probably worth anywhere from $250-$800 depending on where you are and who wants it. I've seen the ones on ebay bringing big money, most of which have all the chrome and the handle and shiny paint. I don't know why some people pay more for them...but they do. I have seen NOS gates bring over $1100 before the nice reproductions came out. I've got a NOS gate that I paid $400 for. It came from this board and had been advertised for a couple of months before it sold. I felt like I got a steal at that price.

Either way...nice gate.

jb4short 02-05-2009 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 1970cstblazer (Post 3125983)
That sure looks like a GM gate. The best way to know for sure is to weigh it. All of the repops are lightweight, and dent/bend VERY easily.

Our '67-'72 tailgate shells weigh 48.8lbs and our '73-'76 / '77-'80 weigh just over 50lbs. (net- not boxed)

Prostreet 72 02-05-2009 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by VA72C10 (Post 3125953)
But I don't plan on running any trim and plan on doing the tailgate handle relocation mod. I also have considered doing the gate full custom like these pictures

I really like the gates with the letters on them and handle moved. I didn't mean to steal your idea, but it's good. I like the weight of the stock gate as well.

LockDoc 02-05-2009 09:51 AM

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I looked at my new take off gate and all the pieces, spot welds, etc. look the same. I would have to agree with 67ChevyRedneck about it being a NOS/new take off gate...

LockDoc

DANTIP 02-05-2009 10:12 AM

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Based on the location of the holes, the gate was intended for upper and lower trim (like Custom Deluxe, meaning no wood-grain cover). I suspect someone started with an NOS gate and drilled the holes for the upper and lower trim then never mounted it. JoesJunk is the "take-off" gate expert if you need more info.

Dan

VA72C10 02-05-2009 10:44 AM

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Thanks for all the info and suggestions. That's why I appreciate this board so much!!!

I will take better pictures when I get a chance and will weigh both my Repop (With Chevrolet stamped) and this gate to get a better idea. Thanks Tri-pro for the weight on the repop...I expect mine to be the same as that but it will be interesting to see.

VA72C10 02-05-2009 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc (Post 3126465)
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I looked at my new take off gate and all the pieces, spot welds, etc. look the same. I would have to agree with 67ChevyRedneck about it being a NOS/new take off gate...

LockDoc

Thanks for taking the time to check!

barraza 02-05-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tri-ProAutomotive (Post 3126402)
Our '67-'72 tailgate shells weigh 48.8lbs and our '73-'76 / '77-'80 weigh just over 50lbs. (net- not boxed)

That's almost exactly what a nos gate weighs

VA72C10 02-06-2009 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by barraza (Post 3126636)
That's almost exactly what a nos gate weighs

Well, I weighed both gates I have and they both weighed 48.something.

THe two differences I noticed...the REPOP (GM RESTORATION nice one) has rough welds along the inside edges. The other gate (Assuming factory takeoff now) is very smooth in that area. On the factory takeoff gate, the number 43 stamped very small in the lower right corner of the inside of the gate. Other than that they look identical and they weigh the same. I will end up using the REPOP unless I find a good used one soon. (Still can't see cutting up a good repop....I know i'm crazy...)

I am putting the factory takeoff on here in a for sale ad.

VA72C10 02-06-2009 10:51 PM

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It's for sale http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=327491

yote1234 02-06-2009 11:41 PM

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im interested... email.. coyotedav@aol.com

VA72C10 02-06-2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by yote1234 (Post 3129462)
im interested... email.. coyotedav@aol.com

Emailed larger pictures....please post in the for sale ad so you will have dibs over there. Thanks!:chevy:

special-K 02-07-2009 06:46 AM

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No repro tailgates were made in`91.No tailgate ever came with the trim holes.It`s a new take off.If it never had color then it was an oem replacement (what became n.o.s.) that was drilled for trim.It`s worth a few hundred dollars,at least.


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