NOS or Repop Tailgate? Can you tell??? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

VA72C10 · 02-04-2009, 10:37 PM

EDIT: GATE IS NOW FOR SALE http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...36#post3129936

It is definitely a GM gate from several things I was told to look at. Clean edges, welds, correct weight, etc. It's not NOS because it's not in the box, has been primered, and has the holes drilled for upper and lower moldings. But it's BY FAR the nicest gate I've ever laid eyes on.

I picked up a gate in perfect shape this evening. I was told it was from a truck in California. When he bought the truck in 92 it was separate from the truck. So it's 17 years old and has been in storage. The truck was sold several years ago. Were repops made back then? Were/are any repops made with the drilling for the trim? I guess that would tell me if it's Repop or NOS. Either way it's in perfect shape without a single dent or scratch. He added the grey primer but no body work was done. If it's a repop I will use it and do the handle relocator to it. If it's NOS, I don't want to mess up a NOS gate so I will sell it.

**LockDoc** · 02-04-2009, 10:44 PM

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I can check my new take off tomorrow to see if the spot welds and stuff look the same. Judging from the pics I would say it's probably NOS but it's really hard to tell without seeing it in person.

LockDoc

VA72C10 · 02-04-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

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I can check my new take off tomorrow to see if the spot welds and stuff look the same. Judging from the pics I would say it's probably NOS but it's really hard to tell without seeing it in person.

LockDoc

Thanks for the quick answer...I'd appreciate you checking it out.

71swb4x4 · 02-04-2009, 10:47 PM

Can you weigh it? It would be fun to find someone with a known NOS gate, and someone with a known repop, and have them both weigh them.

VA72C10 · 02-04-2009, 11:09 PM

I have a Repop in the box....That's a good idea. When I get home and get some batteries for my scale I will weigh them both.

67ChevyRedneck · 02-04-2009, 11:27 PM

When I was at the carlisle swap meet I picked up several repop gates from several different vendors, most of which were probably the same manufacturer. I could tell as soon as I picked them up they were nothing like a stock gate. They feel noticeably lighter. Looking at your pics it appears to be either a NOS gate or a great OEM gate.

If it is "NOS" screw selling it. You'll have a hard time finding one that nice again for a decent price (maybe you'll luck out) but I say screw it and use it

VA72C10 · 02-04-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

When I was at the carlisle swap meet I picked up several repop gates from several different vendors, most of which were probably the same manufacturer. I could tell as soon as I picked them up they were nothing like a stock gate. They feel noticeably lighter.

If it is "NOS" screw selling it. You'll have a hard time finding one that nice again for a decent price (maybe you'll luck out) but I say screw it and use it

But I don't plan on running any trim and plan on doing the tailgate handle relocation mod. I also have considered doing the gate full custom like these pictures

**1970cstblazer** · 02-04-2009, 11:42 PM

That sure looks like a GM gate. The best way to know for sure is to weigh it. All of the repops are lightweight, and dent/bend VERY easily.

*ksjh1316* · 02-04-2009, 11:52 PM

It looks atleast like a great OEM gate or possibly NOS I noticed the front edges look a lot cleaner than the repop gate I have which I had to do a lot of body work on to get it to look right.

teeitup · 02-04-2009, 11:58 PM

I've had 7 NOS gates and none of them had trim holes, it would be hard to sell as NOS being in primer and the trim holes.

VA72C10 · 02-05-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by teeitup

I've had 7 NOS gates and none of them had trim holes, it would be hard to sell as NOS being in primer and the trim holes.

So some repop gates come with the trim holes?

I wouldn't sell it as NOS no matter what because it's been primed and isn't in a box and I have no way to be 100% sure...but after watching original gates that are painted selling for 750-850 on ebay...I don't see modifying a gate worth that much with a flip kit.

sameyrasmea72 · 02-05-2009, 02:28 AM

Do you have a pic of the very top edge. The older repros (like the age your talking about) were more square rather that rounded off.

see ten · 02-05-2009, 07:06 AM

When I did my K10 (about 12 yrs ago) the only repro tailgates available were garbage! They cost $100 and had no letters stamped in them. Mine had two dips in it from where my hands were the first time I closed it. I replaced it when the Goodmarks came out. Considering the age of the gate and the fact that it has letters and trim holes, I'm going to call it a nice original. Probably worth anywhere from $250-$800 depending on where you are and who wants it. I've seen the ones on ebay bringing big money, most of which have all the chrome and the handle and shiny paint. I don't know why some people pay more for them...but they do. I have seen NOS gates bring over $1100 before the nice reproductions came out. I've got a NOS gate that I paid $400 for. It came from this board and had been advertised for a couple of months before it sold. I felt like I got a steal at that price.

Either way...nice gate.

jb4short · 02-05-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 1970cstblazer

That sure looks like a GM gate. The best way to know for sure is to weigh it. All of the repops are lightweight, and dent/bend VERY easily.

Our '67-'72 tailgate shells weigh 48.8lbs and our '73-'76 / '77-'80 weigh just over 50lbs. (net- not boxed)

Prostreet 72 · 02-05-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by VA72C10

But I don't plan on running any trim and plan on doing the tailgate handle relocation mod. I also have considered doing the gate full custom like these pictures

I really like the gates with the letters on them and handle moved. I didn't mean to steal your idea, but it's good. I like the weight of the stock gate as well.

**LockDoc** · 02-05-2009, 09:51 AM

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I looked at my new take off gate and all the pieces, spot welds, etc. look the same. I would have to agree with 67ChevyRedneck about it being a NOS/new take off gate...

LockDoc

**DANTIP** · 02-05-2009, 10:12 AM

Based on the location of the holes, the gate was intended for upper and lower trim (like Custom Deluxe, meaning no wood-grain cover). I suspect someone started with an NOS gate and drilled the holes for the upper and lower trim then never mounted it. JoesJunk is the "take-off" gate expert if you need more info.

Dan

VA72C10 · 02-05-2009, 10:44 AM

Thanks for all the info and suggestions. That's why I appreciate this board so much!!!

I will take better pictures when I get a chance and will weigh both my Repop (With Chevrolet stamped) and this gate to get a better idea. Thanks Tri-pro for the weight on the repop...I expect mine to be the same as that but it will be interesting to see.

VA72C10 · 02-05-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

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I looked at my new take off gate and all the pieces, spot welds, etc. look the same. I would have to agree with 67ChevyRedneck about it being a NOS/new take off gate...

LockDoc

Thanks for taking the time to check!

barraza · 02-05-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tri-ProAutomotive

Our '67-'72 tailgate shells weigh 48.8lbs and our '73-'76 / '77-'80 weigh just over 50lbs. (net- not boxed)

That's almost exactly what a nos gate weighs

VA72C10 · 02-06-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by barraza

That's almost exactly what a nos gate weighs

Well, I weighed both gates I have and they both weighed 48.something.

THe two differences I noticed...the REPOP (GM RESTORATION nice one) has rough welds along the inside edges. The other gate (Assuming factory takeoff now) is very smooth in that area. On the factory takeoff gate, the number 43 stamped very small in the lower right corner of the inside of the gate. Other than that they look identical and they weigh the same. I will end up using the REPOP unless I find a good used one soon. (Still can't see cutting up a good repop....I know i'm crazy...)

I am putting the factory takeoff on here in a for sale ad.

VA72C10 · 02-06-2009, 10:51 PM

It's for sale http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=327491

**yote1234** · 02-06-2009, 11:41 PM

im interested... email.. coyotedav@aol.com

VA72C10 · 02-06-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by yote1234

im interested... email.. coyotedav@aol.com

Emailed larger pictures....please post in the for sale ad so you will have dibs over there. Thanks!

**special-K** · 02-07-2009, 06:46 AM

No repro tailgates were made in`91.No tailgate ever came with the trim holes.It`s a new take off.If it never had color then it was an oem replacement (what became n.o.s.) that was drilled for trim.It`s worth a few hundred dollars,at least.

02-04-2009, 10:37 PM	#1
VA72C10 VA72C10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 25,269	NOS or Repop Tailgate? Can you tell??? EDIT: GATE IS NOW FOR SALE http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...36#post3129936 It is definitely a GM gate from several things I was told to look at. Clean edges, welds, correct weight, etc. It's not NOS because it's not in the box, has been primered, and has the holes drilled for upper and lower moldings. But it's BY FAR the nicest gate I've ever laid eyes on. I picked up a gate in perfect shape this evening. I was told it was from a truck in California. When he bought the truck in 92 it was separate from the truck. So it's 17 years old and has been in storage. The truck was sold several years ago. Were repops made back then? Were/are any repops made with the drilling for the trim? I guess that would tell me if it's Repop or NOS. Either way it's in perfect shape without a single dent or scratch. He added the grey primer but no body work was done. If it's a repop I will use it and do the handle relocator to it. If it's NOS, I don't want to mess up a NOS gate so I will sell it. Attached Images __________________ Looking for a 67-72 swb or blazer project in or around VA. Last edited by VA72C10; 02-07-2009 at 12:33 PM.

02-04-2009, 10:44 PM	#2
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,394	Re: NOS or Repop Tailgate? Can you tell??? - I can check my new take off tomorrow to see if the spot welds and stuff look the same. Judging from the pics I would say it's probably NOS but it's really hard to tell without seeing it in person. LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

02-04-2009, 10:47 PM	#4
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: NOS or Repop Tailgate? Can you tell??? Can you weigh it? It would be fun to find someone with a known NOS gate, and someone with a known repop, and have them both weigh them. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

02-04-2009, 11:09 PM	#5
VA72C10 VA72C10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 25,269	Re: NOS or Repop Tailgate? Can you tell??? I have a Repop in the box....That's a good idea. When I get home and get some batteries for my scale I will weigh them both. __________________ Looking for a 67-72 swb or blazer project in or around VA.

02-04-2009, 11:27 PM	#6
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: NOS or Repop Tailgate? Can you tell??? When I was at the carlisle swap meet I picked up several repop gates from several different vendors, most of which were probably the same manufacturer. I could tell as soon as I picked them up they were nothing like a stock gate. They feel noticeably lighter. Looking at your pics it appears to be either a NOS gate or a great OEM gate. If it is "NOS" screw selling it. You'll have a hard time finding one that nice again for a decent price (maybe you'll luck out) but I say screw it and use it __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications! Last edited by 67ChevyRedneck; 02-04-2009 at 11:28 PM.

02-04-2009, 11:42 PM	#8
1970cstblazer All stock and staying that way Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Elkland, PA Posts: 1,427	Re: NOS or Repop Tailgate? Can you tell??? That sure looks like a GM gate. The best way to know for sure is to weigh it. All of the repops are lightweight, and dent/bend VERY easily. __________________ 1970 K/5 Blazer CST 4WD, Bronze, 93k ACT. miles, 350, 4 speed, positraction, 16.5" x 8.25" wheel option, tilt, tach, vacuum, AM/FM, manual throttle...Dad ordered and purchased new 4/70. Currently frame off restoration in progress... 1972 Cheyenne Super 20 2WD, DK Blue/White, 90K ACT. miles, 402, TH400, 4.10 open, tilt, tach, vacuum, A/C, AM/FM, manual throttle.. A mostly original paint never rusted Texas survivor... 2017 Sierra 1500 SLT 4WD, Black, 41k miles, 5.3, 6L80E, 3.42 LS, 20" polished wheels, everything but moonroof and 6.2... 2019 Canyon SLT 4WD, White, 60k miles, 3.6, 8L45, 3.23 LS, 18" wheels

02-04-2009, 11:52 PM	#9
ksjh1316 Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 1,599	Re: NOS or Repop Tailgate? Can you tell??? It looks atleast like a great OEM gate or possibly NOS I noticed the front edges look a lot cleaner than the repop gate I have which I had to do a lot of body work on to get it to look right.

02-04-2009, 11:58 PM	#10
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02-05-2009, 02:28 AM	#12
sameyrasmea72 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 2,443	Re: NOS or Repop Tailgate? Can you tell??? Do you have a pic of the very top edge. The older repros (like the age your talking about) were more square rather that rounded off. __________________ 72 Cheyenne Super 80 Silverado Blazer 2wd

02-05-2009, 07:06 AM	#13
see ten WTB this ad Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lafayette Georgia Posts: 5,074	Re: NOS or Repop Tailgate? Can you tell??? When I did my K10 (about 12 yrs ago) the only repro tailgates available were garbage! They cost $100 and had no letters stamped in them. Mine had two dips in it from where my hands were the first time I closed it. I replaced it when the Goodmarks came out. Considering the age of the gate and the fact that it has letters and trim holes, I'm going to call it a nice original. Probably worth anywhere from $250-$800 depending on where you are and who wants it. I've seen the ones on ebay bringing big money, most of which have all the chrome and the handle and shiny paint. I don't know why some people pay more for them...but they do. I have seen NOS gates bring over $1100 before the nice reproductions came out. I've got a NOS gate that I paid $400 for. It came from this board and had been advertised for a couple of months before it sold. I felt like I got a steal at that price. Either way...nice gate.

02-05-2009, 09:51 AM	#16
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,394	Re: NOS or Repop Tailgate? Can you tell??? - I looked at my new take off gate and all the pieces, spot welds, etc. look the same. I would have to agree with 67ChevyRedneck about it being a NOS/new take off gate... LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

02-05-2009, 10:12 AM	#17
DANTIP Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA Posts: 1,882	Re: NOS or Repop Tailgate? Can you tell??? Based on the location of the holes, the gate was intended for upper and lower trim (like Custom Deluxe, meaning no wood-grain cover). I suspect someone started with an NOS gate and drilled the holes for the upper and lower trim then never mounted it. JoesJunk is the "take-off" gate expert if you need more info. Dan

02-05-2009, 10:44 AM	#18
VA72C10 VA72C10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 25,269	Re: NOS or Repop Tailgate? Can you tell??? Thanks for all the info and suggestions. That's why I appreciate this board so much!!! I will take better pictures when I get a chance and will weigh both my Repop (With Chevrolet stamped) and this gate to get a better idea. Thanks Tri-pro for the weight on the repop...I expect mine to be the same as that but it will be interesting to see. __________________ Looking for a 67-72 swb or blazer project in or around VA.

02-06-2009, 10:51 PM	#22
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02-06-2009, 11:41 PM	#23
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