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thirdstreettito 08-14-2009 09:38 AM

Posi or Locker?
 
I have an 84 K10 with dual 10bolts, 3:42 gears. I want to have a posi or locker in the rear, but which is better? I dont offroad much, and it HAS TO BE 3:42 for a 8.4/5/6 10 bolt truck rear end, preferably cheap not expensive. So basically, what should IO get? Posi or Locker? Anyone have any good links to parts or info? All help appreciated.

LONGHAIR 08-14-2009 09:51 AM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
For street driving and clutch-type Posi-traction unit is much more "user friendly". Lockers are harsh, do a lot of clunking and banging, and are somewhat unpredictable to a novice. They take some practice to master. It is generally not a good idea to "just let anybody" drive it. They can cause a front end push when the pavement is dry or a wildly loose rear end in the rain....of course the more power you have, the more exaggerated this becomes.
A plain ol' Eaton posi.....not Gov-lock, is a great way to go.

Manbearpig 08-14-2009 10:26 AM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
Detroit Tru-Trac ;):metal:

Sniper X 08-14-2009 11:01 AM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
You only need a locker if you are going mudder or rock crawling so no locker...posi all the way. How bout a lock right? I hear they work well on the street and are cheap.

nlped 08-14-2009 02:12 PM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
Ooh, I had a lock rite in my old Toyota and it was terrifying in the rain. My Jeep has a Detroit Locker front and rear, but it is an off road toy primarily. I put a Eaton Posi 10 bolt under my '87 GMC 2wd and it does wonders for pulling my boat out, even on a wet/steep launch. It is also smooth on the road. Just my .02.

Sniper X 08-14-2009 02:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nlped (Post 3464610)
Ooh, I had a lock rite in my old Toyota and it was terrifying in the rain. My Jeep has a Detroit Locker front and rear, but it is an off road toy primarily. I put a Eaton Posi 10 bolt under my '87 GMC 2wd and it does wonders for pulling my boat out, even on a wet/steep launch. It is also smooth on the road. Just my .02.

I never drove a lock right on a wet road. But they work phenominal in the mud, and on dry pavement but truely you can't beat a posi for street use.

Manbearpig 08-14-2009 07:53 PM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper X (Post 3464293)
You only need a locker if you are going mudder or rock crawling so no locker...posi all the way. How bout a lock right? I hear they work well on the street and are cheap.

word

nlped 08-14-2009 08:31 PM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
A Lock Rite isn't a "posi", it is a "LOCKER", hence the name LOCK.

KQQL IT 08-15-2009 11:11 AM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
Ive a detroit locker in a 9inch. Its so loud when i turn that people stop me to tell me something has got to be wrong

Dave Kay 08-15-2009 06:04 PM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
A truck w/locker used mostly on pavement will wear out rear tires twice a fast as front tires... gone thru three sets of rears in less than 100k. So I've never been stuck in the soft stuff but forget about rotating tires.

Manbearpig 08-16-2009 03:59 AM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nlped (Post 3465062)
A Lock Rite isn't a "posi", it is a "LOCKER", hence the name LOCK.

" This is a mechanically-operated unit which locks when power is applied, giving full power to both tires, and unlocks when you let off the gas."

It can be considered both.

LONGHAIR 08-16-2009 08:37 AM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Manbearpig (Post 3466982)
" This is a mechanically-operated unit which locks when power is applied, giving full power to both tires, and unlocks when you let off the gas."

It can be considered both.

Ah....no, it can't. A "locker" has to have the ability to "un-lock" or it is just a spool. A locker does positively lock together with square edged teeth, no slipping.
I clutch-type "limited slip" (Posi-traction is GM's word) works just like it sounds. It allows one axle to "slip" so that it can go at a different speed. This keeps one tire from squeeling during turns. The "limited" part comes from the friction of the clutches. The amount of pressure applied to them and the amount of "grip" they have affects the amount of slipping. A really tight Posi unit in a really light car may still squeel the inside tire in a low speed sharp turn.

The word "LOCK" in some cases is just a marketing thing that sounds tough. As an example: Eaton's "Gov-lock" .....it is NOT a locking differential. It is a clutch-type posi-traction unit that has a "variable pressure" mechanism that can apply more pressure to the clutches. It never gets any more than a traditional posi, but it it will loosen-up to the point of acting more like an "open" differential.

thirdstreettito 08-16-2009 02:22 PM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
Thanks guys, so where can I (for a good price) get a 3:42 posi for a GM truck 10 bolt rear?

3r!c84 08-16-2009 02:59 PM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
what no one likes the one wheel wonder? :lol:

thirdstreettito 08-17-2009 08:08 PM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
Anyone?

3r!c84 - It is fun in coldesacks at full throttle, it makes a PERFECT circle.

3r!c84 08-17-2009 08:18 PM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
lol havnt tryed that.
i got pulled over for flooring it at a stop sign.didnt even spin and the cop shows me the marks and im like thats not me,if it was it would be one line.lol he laugh and said true and let me go.

:burnout:

Manbearpig 08-18-2009 12:16 AM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thirdstreettito (Post 3467565)
Thanks guys, so where can I (for a good price) get a 3:42 posi for a GM truck 10 bolt rear?

www.ringpinion.com

If you have a 10 bolt it is probably a 8.5" ring gear.

They don't make "3:42 posi's" either BTW

They make posi carrier's and you can get a 3.42:1 R&P set seperate if you feel the need to swap them.

3r!c84 08-20-2009 08:35 PM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
this is what it should look like :metal::metal::metal:



Wildstreak 11-28-2009 10:13 PM

Re: Posi or Locker?
 
sorry to jack your thread but I was wondering the same thing. my truck will be seeing its fair share of mudd and offroading but still be street driven, so I was wondering if a locker is a good choice or?


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