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GMC Guy 10-20-2009 03:21 PM

Intake manifold question
 
i'm taking my edelbrock manifold off to clean it really good and to replace the old gaskets. i have a new set of fel-pro gaskets already, but i just need to know where to put RTV and basically the best way to put it back together so it won't leak. i heard that using RTV instead of the rubber end seals works better and lasts longer. i know it's not rocket science, but i'd just like to know the correct procedure to remove/replace the intake, so i don't have any leaks. thanks.

cableguy0 10-20-2009 03:26 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
run a 1/4 inch bead of rtv at the front and rear rails toss the rubbers in the trash. then set the gaskets in place so the tips on the corner sink into the rtv. if you want you can put a thin coat of rtv around the water ports. make sure to use thread sealer on the 4 center bolts that are next to the carb flange otherwise they will start to seep oil.

GMC Guy 10-20-2009 03:28 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
ok, i have to go down to the parts store to get a few things, what kind of RTV should i use? and also what thread sealer works best? oh and i don't have access to a torque wrench, so if i tighten the bolts evenly, will i be ok?

cowboy5683 10-20-2009 03:38 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
whats up greg?..How is the truck running otherwise?..Ya..Just use oil resistant rtv..you will be good..I would use thread sealant on those bolts..cable is correct..you will leak some water passed them and it will drive ya crazy...just get whatever kragen has..also a tip..put a tiny dab of rtv on each corner of the intake gaskets and let it set for 30 mins before dropping intake on and you will have no frustrations with the gaskets not lining up with the bolt holes..as far as the torque goes..you will be ok without it if you have a really good feel for torque and evenness between the bolts..but I wouldnt cus one mis torque and you could have a vacuum leak and you know how those go now dont ya?..lol..you can get a decent torque wrench at harbor frieght tools for like $30 or possibly rent one from kragen or autozone ??

87Bob 10-20-2009 03:39 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GMC Guy (Post 3577174)
ok, i have to go down to the parts store to get a few things, what kind of RTV should i use? and also what thread sealer works best? oh and i don't have access to a torque wrench, so if i tighten the bolts evenly, will i be ok?

Wait till you have a torque wrench! Or barrow one.

cableguy0 10-20-2009 03:46 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
you cant get a torque wrench on most of the bolts. just start in the middle and work out in steps. by the time the ends are tight the middle will be loose just keep going back over them. no need to crank then up hard. The rtv you want is called The right stuff . it costs more but it sets up quicker and seals great. Just do not wait 30 minutes with this stuff. Dont put it on the rails until you are ready to set the intake on

GMC Guy 10-20-2009 03:49 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
ok, i'll see if i can borrow one. my manifold is extremely dirty and it's not doing my engine compartment any justice :lol:
would they sell the Right Stuff at kragen? otherwise i could go to autozone or something
Oh, and what works best for cleaning the grime off the intake? other than blasting it. i heard brake cleaner works well?

what's up CJ? the truck is running great! I can't thank-you enough for your help. and i'm just shopping around for an exhaust system now, i want a real head turner :devil: haha

cowboy5683 10-20-2009 03:54 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
Right on right on..Glad yer havin good luck!..I am sure with all the hard work yer puttin in it you will be chasin em away with a stick!!..Just dont drive by jenny craig..you will need a bigger stick!!..lol..I know..socially incorrect..sorry..couldnt resist

GMC Guy 10-20-2009 03:59 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
hahahahaha :haha: :haha:

that B**** isn't getting any where close to my truck lol

oh, and some buddies of mine (who own square bodies) were thinking of starting our own club for only 73-87 chevy's. i thought of the name
Tri-Vallley Square Bodies "Where it's cool to be Square" haha just gotta get some decals made, and maybe some shirts. then cruise downtown on friday nights ;)

cowboy5683 10-20-2009 04:06 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
Thats awesome..Looks like you will be the quadrajet man in that club now huh?..Always good to have more clubs!!..Stickers n such are easy..Down here there is a guy at the mall that makes em any size and style.

GMC Guy 10-20-2009 04:09 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
that'd be sweet lol
and yes no one believes i'm running a q-jet haha they're like "uhhh, can you rebuild mine?" lol

cableguy0 10-20-2009 04:11 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
Any auto parts store should have it. its made by permatex and comes in a can not a tube. foamy engine bright will help a good bit. also castrol super clean does really really good just dont spray it on anything that you want the paint to stay on

GMC Guy 10-20-2009 04:13 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
so it won't mess up the finish on the aluminum intake right?

cableguy0 10-20-2009 04:21 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
if the intake is that dirty it probably already lost its finish if there ever was one. most aluminum intakes are just bare aluminum. unless you got an eps manifold or had it cleared or powder coated on your own its just bare aluminum

cowboy5683 10-20-2009 04:23 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
Unless its the "endurashine" finish it has no finish..It is "as cast finish"..got to the edelbrock website..they mention something called oxisolv aluminum cleaner..I dont know what it is but I am sure they wouldnt recommend something if it was gonna mess it up.

gchemist 10-20-2009 08:10 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
Thick beads on the ends. A little under the gaskets. A small bead on the water jackets. No leaks on my intake!!

http://thumb13.webshots.net/t/50/550...3jCuJak_th.jpg

bitchin85 10-20-2009 10:51 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
quick question.. probably a stupid one.. but why is a bead of rtv better then the rubber gaskets on the ends? i recently replaced my intake and i used the rubber gaskets with a thin layer of rtv on them..

cowboy5683 10-20-2009 11:40 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
No question is stupid..I believe it makes it easier for those situations where yer dealing with a heavy manifold by yerself and ya dont have to worry bout one of them lil suckers gettin away from ya and fallin in the valley or endin up crooked..If anyone knows any other reason let us know.

gchemist 10-20-2009 11:45 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
Better resistance to oil and temperature changes.

cowboy5683 10-20-2009 11:48 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
lol..I knew I would forget something..damn Coors light..lol

GMC Guy 10-21-2009 03:53 AM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
well it's on there, waiting til tomorrow to fire it up (give the silicone time to cure) i'll post some pics ASAP. it came out amazing ;) looks brand new!

79gmcc15 10-21-2009 04:40 AM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
good work! BTW :wop:

cableguy0 10-21-2009 09:34 AM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
silicone is used because the rubber gaskets shrink in a relatively short amount of time and then start puking oil down the front and back of the motor. Gm has had a tech service bulletin since i think the mid 80's to throw away the rubber seals and use rtv instead because they are prone to blowing out and leaking

bitchin85 10-21-2009 06:19 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
thanks ill remember that when i swap out my intake

68 TT 10-21-2009 06:36 PM

Re: Intake manifold question
 
I missed this one in time to help out but Pine-Sol does incredible things with greasy & dirty aluminum.

A couple gallons from the dollar store and a plastic bin large enough to fit the intake in flat on the bottom are all you need.

Let is soak until the grease is gone. It will even take carbon deposits off aluminum head combustion chambers. They come out looking brand new. Time soaking depends upon the amount of grime.


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