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Crank 01-24-2003 07:16 PM

Mustang 2 Front Suspensions for these trucks!
 
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Okay. I was wondering if there was wondering if there was anyone who knew about any Mustang II front suspensions available for our trucks that weld to the frame. Here is a pic of someones truck that was sold on Ebay. I know you guys remember it. I've been to Fat Man Fabrications and talked to the guys there. But they've never said anything about having one that welds on. They do however have one that bolts on, but I don't want one that just bolts on. I want one that has an ultra clean look. And what do you think would be the availability for parts? Would it be just like getting parts for any other car or would it be different for our big trucks. Thanks guys!
Brandon

Crank 01-24-2003 07:17 PM

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JHickson6 01-24-2003 07:24 PM

Mustang? sorry i don't understand, is that a F**D, why would you do something like that? I understand words like Camaro and Corvette but whats a Mustang? :D:D :bowtie: FOR LIFE!!!

crazy longhorn 01-24-2003 07:35 PM

Thats some slick lookin suspension, & I have looked at it, But its a bit pricey! I had to really think .....what will I gain for all that cash? 1 more thought on the weld in stuff....these old truck frames were designed to flex,& if you plan welding crossmembers/ upper a arm brackets to the frame, you will need to box the rails to handle the setup. crazyL;)

jiggs 01-24-2003 07:38 PM

Unless the company has re-engineered that system, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Our trucks are a lot wider than a Mustang II. How did they manage to make the system wider? Did they just cut the center support and widen it? If so the rack and pinion steering will give terrible bump steer. Also consider how much heavier a 1/2 ton is, compared to a little unibody "Pinto". Is this system beefed up to handle the extra weight? What kind of brakes come with the kit? Pinto or better. Is the spindle still Mustang II. What about ball joints?

Maybe for a trailer queen, but not for a driver that is going to be driven hard. Now I don't know the specifics of that system, maybe all these problems have been addressed, but then it wouldn't be a Mustang II suspension anymore, now would it.

Just my $.02

Crank 01-24-2003 07:48 PM

Well CrazyL, that's exactly what I plan on doing. I'm going to box the frame; for looks as well as rigitity! I think this system is beefed up more than a regular pinto style suspension obviously. It doesn't really matter what style brakes they come with as eventually I would add a big brake kit. My truck will someday be a very beautiful street driven show truck!!! Also in the back is going a small C-Notch with a welded cross member back there to hold Air Bags! So, it's gonna be a heaping mass of Chevy(altered by Brandon)steel :) .......
Brandon

MOTHERTRUCKERS 01-24-2003 10:21 PM

Bra e-mail me on the mustang 2 kit for 67-72 with 11" disc brakes and i'll send you the specs and boxing patterns. We have done 6 trucks so far with no problems.

minibike 01-25-2003 01:45 AM

I don't know what you would gain, other than looks. But, to each his own. It does look nice.

heschultz 01-25-2003 02:21 AM

I got mine through Jim Meyer Racing. Heres a link www.jimmeyerracing.com

crazy longhorn 01-25-2003 10:40 AM

I would think that you could gain a bunch of ground clearance on a slammed truck with that style suspension, & like I said....slick as hell! If it fits your budget Brandon.......I say go for it! good luck,crazyL:D

slam33 01-25-2003 11:21 AM

Ya, I want to take the front end off a 2200 lb. car and slap it up under my 3300 lb. truck. That should work. Hey maybe I can use a Pinto brake system too since it should be lighter. Of course I still want that big block under the hood.:bowtie:

O'l Buck 01-25-2003 12:58 PM

Ok Brad, it's time for some school here.....the way I see it, it's ok to put f@rd parts on a f@rd. It's ok to put Chevy or GM parts on a f@rd, but never put f@rd parts on a Chevy........infection could result, and they don't make anti-rejection medication for trucks!!!........Just my opinion........Btw, look at the bottom truck in my sig. :bowtie:

70 Jimmy 01-25-2003 03:40 PM

OK guys here goes...
The reasons for going Mustang II "STYLE" suspension.

1) Ground clearance
2) Easy
3) Aftermarket parts (ie Big brakes, Quality A arms, etc.).
4) Tried and true. Streetrodders have been doing this for years. Bumpsteer on these things have been worked out many years ago.
5) Strength. Even if you were to use the Mustang crossmember, it was designed the have a F@rd small block or a realatively heavy 4 cyl right above the crossmember. A arms are quality tubular. If you heard they were weak, you heard wrong. Besides,It's just a Mustang II STYLE but it's much beefier
6) Looks. Clean, clean, clean.

crazy longhorn 01-25-2003 04:02 PM

2nd that 70 jimmy, & to add a little those mustang II type setups run the same balljoints found under full sized fords. They have also been run in everything from pickups to full sized 50s Buicks! My reason to not run 1 is .......if I cant rebuild, or modify the stock stuff.......I cant afford it!;) crazyL

hobby67stepside 01-25-2003 05:02 PM

I have used Fatman's Mustang II kit on a project ('57 Ford
f-100) and I can vouch that it is heavy duty enough for any engine you want to put in, the bump steer probelm is definitely engineered OUT, and it is relatively easy to install. Don't let the naysayers talk you out of it for anything but aesthetic reasons (Ford parts in a Chevy) I couldn't believe the driving difference it made.

MOTHERTRUCKERS 01-25-2003 08:11 PM

They are the best upgrade we have ever done to a 47-72 truck for the money.

adamls 01-25-2003 10:31 PM

I would do it just for the looks of the tubular a-arms and coil-overs. This where I want to take mine but the $$ is slowing that down right now.

mikep 01-25-2003 11:00 PM

Ive seen them installed in chevelles and big chevies among others and quite a few other cars that are a LOT heavier than 3300 lbs and I have never heard anyone complain about not being able to stop after a 150 mph 1/4 mile run. Fact is that if you are going to go through the trouble of installing a custom front suspension then you are probably not going to be picking up a 3000 lb load of cow manure. Its no longer a truck. Its a vehicle.

new2my62 01-25-2003 11:52 PM

try this link
http://www.cachassisworks.com/home.htm

NPilot1975 01-26-2003 12:02 AM

That front suspension is a Jim Meyer Racing crossmember. The company also offers a bolt in kit that I believe is very similar. Fat Man Fabrications also has a bolt in front crossmember that is very similar. I was thinking of getting one for my truck but haven't decided yet. Tell me if you find out any info.

neonlarry 01-26-2003 03:53 AM

I have heard that if you use the actual mustang II suspension that it is hard to find shocks that are strong enough. But, I have never looked into anything like that, I just remember someone with a 30s chevy truck telling me about how with that suspension you are always beaking shocks.

PanelDeland 01-26-2003 02:47 PM

Some of the heavier street rods and Customs that are wider are now using Ddddd-dodge Dakota front suspensions.They can be fitted with tubular control arms and have Rack and pinion.They also came with weight ratings designed for 1/2 ton trucks.I think someone is building kits to put these under the 67-72 trucks but I don't know who.

Jesse 67 c-10 01-26-2003 04:10 PM

Ya that is a slick setup, Very clean, probably handles great and rides nice. It obviously wouldn't be as strong, the spindles are car ones and if you look at the width of the a arms, the distance between the rod ends from front to back on both the upper and lower arms, is Much narrower that our truck ones are, thus the wheel has a lot more leverage on those rod ends or bushings. so it would be weaker say if you hit a really big pothole while your brakes were locked up. *cringe* but I've never heard or any problems before, anyone on this whole board heard of anything actually happening? just think though too, desert rase trucks also use tubular control arms. It's probably well worth it.
Jesse

baggedblaz 01-26-2003 05:20 PM

ok so here goes,
i was in cali over october and stopped in at Bill Turners shop Turner Enterprises,
he said he was starting to work on a cross member for our year trucks and older, it uses a 88-97 style spindle and brake setup, looked cool still uses chevy parts and killer ground clearance not to mention a factory crossmember drop?
i'd probably wait or contact him for info?
Turner Enterprises Hemet,Ca. 1-909-926-1729
he also sells a dropped factory crossmember and all 60-72 chevy truck suspension too?
no website yet,but he advertises in Street Trucks mag.
good luck

Dropped67step 01-26-2003 06:06 PM

I think it is a great set up if you want better handling and steering, Who really cares if it has a ford name? I am a die hard chevy freak and if i could afford it there would be one under my truck but i cant so i will keep the bags. I think people freak out a little to much over the name. I am sure a few of you are going to slam me for this but I think if its your ride you have the right to do what ever you want to it even if it is putting a part on it named after a ford. You can start giving me hell now. just my 2 cents:flag:


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