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bigdon-70blazer 04-09-2010 08:13 AM

Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
I am putting this back togather and removed the original weatherstrips where the windows meet the top. It had several small plastic push pins that I am able to reuse but I have a question to those who have replaced this before. I got some NOS ones from someone on the board or ebay and am trying to use those but they seem to be about an inch or two short. I can stretch them and tack them into place and they seem to work but I will be glueing them down this weekend. Did nayone have similar experience with the aftermarket ones? Did those seem to lay down OK? My computer is down so I have no pics right now. Thanks to this great forum!

Webwillie 04-09-2010 11:59 AM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
I have a 72 Blazer and I don't remember that being an issue. That said, it has been my experience that when it comes to clips, tabs etc. the aftermarket ones by and large have been pretty crappy. In some cases the pieces required major 'tweaking' and a few were unuseable. Good luck with your project.

jaros44sr 04-09-2010 12:25 PM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
IIRC I used standard door panel fastners and just cut the round part into a 'T'...seemed to work for me. If I get a chance I'll take a pic for you

don't think I even glued them down

bigdon-70blazer 04-09-2010 01:49 PM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
I was able to reuse all of my clips so that is not the problem. I wanted to know if the weatherstrip part itself was a tad smaller in lenghth because I had to stretch mine to some degree.

jaros44sr 04-09-2010 02:57 PM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdon-70blazer (Post 3910331)
I was able to reuse all of my clips so that is not the problem. I wanted to know if the weatherstrip part itself was a tad smaller in lenghth because I had to stretch mine to some degree.

Not that I know of, all the holes seem to line up fine

70gmcjimmy 04-09-2010 09:30 PM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
Hello BigDon, I have asked many times about the "drip rail deflector" that seems to be generically listed with first gen Blazers/Jimmys in general and have never gotten a straight answer.

From what I have researched if you were sold the seals from a single wall top, they appear to be shorter because of the deflector that attaches to the roof and the "A" pillar. I have read many catalogs that just group all the years together when there is a definite difference between a single wall top with the drip deflector and a double wall top without a drip deflector. I looked at member TurpMcspray's single wall top and compared to my double wall top and it looks like the weatherstripping would be too short for a double wall top with no deflector. I have not found a supplier that specifies a difference between the door window gaskets from double wall to single wall and all of the suppliers I checked only have ones that appear to fit single walls even tho they list them as 69-72.

I would also like to get the low down on this subject!

Later---DAC

71jimmy 04-10-2010 12:01 AM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
DAC, are you saying the deflectors only came on/used on the single wall tops?

70gmcjimmy 04-10-2010 01:31 AM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 71jimmy (Post 3911257)
DAC, are you saying the deflectors only came on/used on the single wall tops?

I wish I had the expertise to definitely say yes. Most of these guys here think people are some kind of freak if you like these trucks with a top on them, which I do. I replied to a post of this topic again to maybe find an answer. I have only owned one Jimmy, but I know the truck well since 1971. The top has never been removed or altered. TurpMcSprays single wall top has definite "notches" that the deflectors fit right into and it also screws into the "A" pillar, but they would never fit into my double wall and my "A" pillars have never had any holes drilled into them.

I believe I have read from the guys that have owned many of these trucks that the single wall top was 1972 only. It appears that vendors are selling roof/window seals for only "drip rail deflector" type tops. I have never seen any specific for a "1970 double wall top", or any year a double wall top like mine may have been offered. It always says '69-'72, but I am certain one size don't fit all!

I am just trying to find answers too! I don't want to order new seals when my gut feeling is telling me that they ain't the right ones!

I really feel that if BigDon had to stretch his seals that far something isn't right. Usually weather stripping contracts as it ages and if he is already pulling it to fit new, it isn't going to last long.

Later---DAC

bigdon-70blazer 04-10-2010 07:42 AM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
I did not have any drip deflectors on mine.

bigdon-70blazer 04-11-2010 07:51 AM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
Checked the numbers on the boxes and I have NOS 1969-70 double wall top weatherstrip and it is short but I glued it doiwn yesterday and taped and clamped it down, will check to see today if the 3m weatherstrip adhesive works. Checked the header weatherstrip part and what do you know, it is 1 inch short also! Is there a theme going on here? Thankfully the original I pulled was still in great shape and I may reuse that one.

70gmcjimmy 04-11-2010 08:45 PM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
Wow, NOS. That's a little different situation too. It still could have shrunk some thru the years but I would definitely trust stretching NOS much more than current production items. The 3m adhesive should work fine.

DAC

bigdon-70blazer 04-11-2010 10:05 PM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
The 3m seemed to hold well, just did a little touchup and spot glueing and taping and it seems to be ok. Will try to glue down the passenger side tomorrow and the header.

VanceH 04-13-2010 11:08 AM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
I am planning on taking off my top to replace all the rubber, any pics you have would be cool!

Thanks

vance

D.PASSMORE 04-13-2010 12:50 PM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
Not to say I'm confused, but comparing what was outlined in the thread, 69-70 Blazers used a single wall top with drip deflectors. / 71-72 Blazers used a double wall top with out drip deflectors?
I'm working on a 72 Blazer and I'm sure it is has a double wall and it came with drip deflectors. Well I just purchased all new rubber seals, door caps and drip reflectors from Brothers. I was told these were the best ones available (LT warranty?? / Brand??). Now, I'm not sure what year they cover or type of top. I'll have to check this and make sure my stuff is right. But, This info is very helpful as I'm not a Blazer/Jimmy expert.

red71cheyenne 04-13-2010 04:27 PM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
We need pics of this!! I just got mine in the mail from LMC and am ready to install them. Mine did not have any clips though. The driver side had 3 screws in it and the passenger had 1. Both sides had weatherstrip adhesive besides the screws.

Anyone have pics of how they are supposed to be installed? Does the assembly manual show it? I'll research that tonight.

70gmcjimmy 04-13-2010 08:50 PM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D.PASSMORE (Post 3917822)
Not to say I'm confused, but comparing what was outlined in the thread, 69-70 Blazers used a single wall top with drip deflectors. / 71-72 Blazers used a double wall top with out drip deflectors?
I'm working on a 72 Blazer and I'm sure it is has a double wall and it came with drip deflectors. Well I just purchased all new rubber seals, door caps and drip reflectors from Brothers. I was told these were the best ones available (LT warranty?? / Brand??). Now, I'm not sure what year they cover or type of top. I'll have to check this and make sure my stuff is right. But, This info is very helpful as I'm not a Blazer/Jimmy expert.

I think it is opposite of what you said, the single wall top with drip rail deflectors was available only in 1972, but that is coming from a pretty bad memory reading stuff here. The double wall top without drip deflectors were available from 1969 up and I think I have read that some 1972's had double wall tops also so maybe they were modified to fit the deflectors.
As I said above my '70 Jimmy is the only one that I have ever owned so I really don't have the facts on all of the years.

DAC

D.PASSMORE 04-13-2010 10:28 PM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
Big Don- Hopefully not hijacking your thread. I'll get some pictures and part numbers of my gaskets sets and take a look at this - along with your original question. I might shed some light on these issues. Thanks

red71cheyenne 04-14-2010 05:53 PM

Re: Door weatherstrip on the double wall top
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D.PASSMORE (Post 3918903)
Big Don- Hopefully not hijacking your thread. I'll get some pictures and part numbers of my gaskets sets and take a look at this - along with your original question. I might shed some light on these issues. Thanks

And I just looked, there are no pics in the assembly manual other than just a general few of how the top is assembled.


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