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pat123 05-25-2010 11:20 PM

Calling all you stereo experts
 
I instaled a new stereo in my 69 pickup, but its haveing some issues. As i turn up the volume a fuzzy sounds occures and get worse as i turn it up. I have 2 speakers under the seat and one in the dash. I took the one above the deck out because i thought it was possibly messing with the signal but didnt help. I tried running my ground right to the batterie, didnt help. The speakers are fine because i pluged them into dads deck with no problems. The decks fine because i took it back and got a new one. The only other think i can think of is where i connected it or my connections. Unfortunatly me solder gun was broken so i crimped and heat wrapped the connections. The stereo says it need 12 Amps, i ran it to the cigarette lighter on the fuse box. I dont know how many amps are there but it blew a fuse once witch was a 3amp. I replaced that fuse with a 10amp one, still not working.
Any help would be awsome

Thanks
Pat

RIDDLA 05-25-2010 11:26 PM

Re: Calling all you stereo experts
 
You need to check your wires and see if any of your speaker wires are grounding

tasian 05-25-2010 11:33 PM

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yeah i'd check the speaker wires or just run a short temp wire and hold the speaker to make sure thats not it

are all of your wires new?

and just to make sure....this isn't when listening to the radio right?

pat123 05-25-2010 11:38 PM

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It does it with anything radio, CD, ipod. One side has old speaker wire and the other has new their both doing it though.

ruffrida2005 05-26-2010 12:01 AM

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The noise is probably a High Frequecy (HF) noise that your picking up off your Dizy. If your stereo or speakers are too close to the motor or some eletronics that put off HF waves it will play through your stereo.

Does it start off with a low buzz and get louder when you get on the gas. If so you need to relocate your speaker, CD player, or the wires. If you have cheap wires it's worth it to get some good monster wire from wal-mart or a audio shop.

I hope this helps. I've installed a lot of stereos, all from audio/video and have ran into the same problems, Just move some stuff around till you find the problem.

Also about the fuses. I would move the hot wire off the lighter and hook it to a good known positive that has atleast 12 amps. Remember that running a stereo and something else off the same fuse is going to cut the amps down.

pat123 05-26-2010 12:38 AM

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Quote:

The noise is probably a High Frequecy (HF) noise that your picking up off your Dizy. If your stereo or speakers are too close to the motor or some eletronics that put off HF waves it will play through your stereo.
It does it all the time not just when it running. It also doesnt change when i rev it up. Would anything else under the dash put out high frequencies?

LMN8UR 05-26-2010 12:51 AM

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I'd put another 3 amp fuse in it. Double check, I'll bet it requires 12V and not amps. Other wise they wouldn't have put the 3 amp fuse in it. But that's not your noise problem.

Once you replace the fuse, run a hot wire directly to the battery (Temporary). With the accessories OFF, see if you still get the noise, that will tell you if it's interference or stereo / speaker problems.

Diablo de la Noche 05-26-2010 01:07 AM

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You say the interference gets louder as you turn it up. It may be a power draw. The main power wire you spliced into may be overloaded, maybe due to corrosion or a frayed section of the wire.

Try isolating the entire system. Ground the stereo to the chasis/body, then run all new wires to the speakers, out of the truck, like on the seat. Install the head unit, run it again. Then put one of the speakers in, etc. This should get you close. In an older vehicle you should run all new stereo wires because you never know what was in there before. Old vehicles and new stereos sometimes don't mix well at first, but eventually it will work.

gkesseru 05-26-2010 08:32 AM

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Since it's volume related, it may be that your speakers aren't rated to the power capability of your receiver. Example: Is your receiver 100 watts per channel but your speakers only rated for 50? This will cause an overdrive problem where your speakers coils are traveling to their limits at higher volumes.

Mike J 05-26-2010 12:48 PM

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yeah, sounds like to me that you are just driving the speakers too hard (turning up the volume too far) and causing the speakers to distort.

Jacfourteen 05-26-2010 01:03 PM

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Probably not the problem, but never run signal wires (rca, speaker, usb, etc) wires next to power wires, it can introduce interference. And if it is at low volumes too then I don't think that it is a problem with overdriving the speakers. I'd run a temp. hot to the batt. like suggested above.

big mike71 05-26-2010 01:56 PM

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You say that you have three speakers, How are they hooked up is the one in the dash on the front fader or is it hooked up with one of the back ones. It sound to me like your speakers are not grounded right.

cdowns 05-26-2010 03:11 PM

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did you ground the case of the stereo good? shiney metal to shiney metal is a good ground

pat123 05-27-2010 01:09 AM

Re: Calling all you stereo experts
 
I ran all new wires to the fuse box but not out of it. Ill try running the hot wire to the battery and see.

Pat

Brett09 05-29-2010 03:37 PM

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It should be pretty simple. Just follow step by step until the problem in solved. If you have any questions PM me.

1. Disconnect the speaker wires front he radio and test them and see if there is ground coming from one of them. If there is it has a short and the needs to be traced back and replaced of it can't be fixed.

2. Test each speaker for ohms. It should be close to 4 ohms.

3. Make sure that each speaker is hooked to one channel each. Don't try to bridge anything. IE. the white set of wires, white and white w/ a black stripe is only going to one speaker.

4. Run a ground to a bolt close to the radio that has the paint removed. Try to keep it under 18" and NEVER run it to the battery. Power is okay but never the ground.

5. Check the grounds from the battery to the frame and body. Clean them up and check the ground going to the engine too.

I'm sure one of these will solve your problem. If it doesn't we can keep going with it. A healthy electrical system will never give noise in the stereo unless the power is connected or close to something like the coil. There is no need to ground the case of the radio to anything but you can if you want to. If you do just cut the ground wire coming out of the radio about 6", strip both ends of the radio ground wire and the wire that will go to the ground on the body. Put both of the wires in a ring connector, crimp and mount it to the hole in the center of the back of the radio. After that just ground the wire like in step 4.

pat123 06-08-2010 03:26 PM

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Still having trouble. Did a bunch of the stuff that was said above. Im wondering if i need an amp, booster, filter or something. Im not sure how to read this stuff. What do i want to compare when it comes to the specs?

Thanks
Pat

Brett09 06-08-2010 03:33 PM

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Think you can take a few pics of the connections and how everything is mounted. That might be a bit easier to see what you are dealing with.

pat123 06-08-2010 04:04 PM

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Pics

The Blue wire is my constant power and the red going to the black connector is my ingnition

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...icture1001.jpg

2 speakers under the seat (tdx6502)

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...icture1002.jpg

Disconnected front speaker. All my connection are like this. (tdx6802)

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...icture1003.jpg

And the maint connector to the deck (deh-3200ub)

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...icture1004.jpg

Brett09 06-08-2010 04:10 PM

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On the white and the gray wires you have them hooked up together. Just pick on set either white white/blk or gray gray/blk to go to the front speaker. That should fix it. What was happening was having those wires altogether it was shorting out the stereo. Let me know how it goes.

pat123 06-08-2010 05:42 PM

Re: Calling all you stereo experts
 
Those wires were for the front one. I dont have 2 fronts (LH,RH) so i thought i would get a weird sound in the front one because it would be either left or right. When i tried the steroe without the front one it still did it. Would that connection make it screw up even if nothing was plugged to it? Alos how should i hook up the front one if thats incorrect?

Pat

Brett09 06-08-2010 05:48 PM

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Yeah having the wires hooked together liked that would short out the radio even if they are not hooked to anything else. Just pick one of the sets either the gray or the white and connect it to the speaker. Just not both.

pat123 06-08-2010 06:09 PM

Re: Calling all you stereo experts
 
that worked, i didnt think that would do anything. Thanks for the hellp everyone.

Pat


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