Is this too much?
 

I hate to use other peoples work as examples but would possibly like to try this. This subframe job was very interesting to me. This subframe is installed inside of the frame rails, kicking it up very high. I like this idea because you would have a huge weld area, then you can box it in, and have it very stable. The only thing is with bags would it sit so low that it would scrapped when aired out.

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If you Z'd the front where the far front body mounts are and bed mounts are it would be perfect. A subframe and a Z job all in one. IMO

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I have never used a Camaro sub on these trucks, but I do have a Camaro. That looks like it would be ok for a static drop, but too low for bags. IMHO

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I diffently wanted to use bags so it would be to low. Thanks for the info!

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You can us bags. Just make sure you install the bags/wheels before welding the front end on. That way you can cut, grind, measure, etc so it doesn't drag when fully aired out.

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I used that exact setup on my air bagged 55.

[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...uck/b588-1.jpg[/IMG]

I left this image below full size so I just pasted the link to it. I included it to show you that I have mine dropped all of the way down. my lower A frame will touch the Camaro frame. This pic is pre bump stop so you can see them touch. You can also see a very small amount of clearance between the crossmember and the floor. Its about an inch off of the ground.

http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m...rrent=41ea.jpg



Side View
[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...uck/780a-1.jpg[/IMG]

front:18x7 with 3.75" backspacing (235/40/18 tire) 25.40 in tall
rear:20x10 with 3" backspacing (315/35/20 tire) 28.68 in tall

I will say that the the exhaust is very close to the ground at full drop, about 1/2 inch off of the ground.(only at the collector, its fine past that).

[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...Reliable41.jpg[/IMG]
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...SC_00491-2.jpg

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That is a very nice truck.
Kim

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Your set up is alittle different. Yours runs under the frame and the one i posted runs into the frame and sits in the frame.

That is a very nice truck.

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^^that is the best way i have seen to stub a frame. Take the "legs" from the camaro sub and butt them against the bottom of your stock truck frame.

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I was just looking for a cleaner look.

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dont stub it then.

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Yeah I know but it sure would be nice to get all that stub inside the frame for a larger welding surface.

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Mike
Looking at the first pics you posted it looks like the bottom of the camaro frame lines up with the bottom of the truck frame. Doing it that way should give a lower stance initially.
You may have to mock it up with the truck frame on top and then figure out how much lower it will be with them lined (the tires will be higher up in the fenders).
You should be able to run bags. I think it will just change the amount of air you will be able to have in them.
Kim

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Mike I'm with Eddie, setting the sub under the stock frame is the way to go. I 1st did it this way 20 yrs ago and still do. I know in some of your other posts you were asking about camber angles. Doing it as Eddie and myself has this is not an issue, but remember when using bags camber changes as the body angle changes. This is why you need to have an alignment at a set ride hight. Stacking the frame can be completed in a weekend, my 1st one took me that long and I did it by myself. When running bags I set bumpstops front and rear so when aired out my rockers are 1/2" off the ground, at this point my frame is 1" from hitting the ground. I can drive my truck in a straight line with no air in the bags. I don't know how to link somthing from another site but on the H.A.M.B. site there is an extensive writeup on this type of swap. Just remember the hardest part of this whole swap is making that first cut, after that it's a peice of cake.

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Here ya go.................

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...light=subframe