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lakeroadster 01-19-2011 07:24 PM

'65 Anti Theft & Ignition ACC Toggle Switch
 
Our trucks don't have an ACC position on the ignition switch. Therefore if you turn the ignition on to listen to the radio, without the enigne running, you may burn up your coil and your points.

What if a fella was to put a toggle switch on the hot wire that goes from the ignition to the coil? If the location of the switch was in an accessible, but hidden, location in the cab it could also be used as a theft deterent?

Fix one issue, get a bonus feature for your efforts.

What say ye gang, sound like a workable scenario?

(This would be better than just a "non ignition" hot wire to the radio. Do that and forget to turn off the radio and you get a dead battery.)

John

iiizman 01-19-2011 08:21 PM

Re: '65 Anti Theft & Ignition ACC Toggle Switch
 
In my old truck i put a micro switch that i hooked a relay behind, so I could power all my accessories. The button was small and I put in the ashtray. The relay just redirected the power straight to the battery.

Big Fenders 01-19-2011 09:39 PM

Re: '65 Anti Theft & Ignition ACC Toggle Switch
 
Lakeroadster...Seems like you'r talking about two different things...Ignition cut-out switch and constant power to the radio. As said ,no accessory position on the ignition switch...what I did was wire in a constant hot [toggle switch ] with an LED indicator light to remind me that it was on. The coil cut-out switch is also a good idea...just an extra level of theft deterrent.
Bob

lakeroadster 01-19-2011 09:51 PM

Re: '65 Anti Theft & Ignition ACC Toggle Switch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fenders (Post 4424225)
Lakeroadster...Seems like you'r talking about two different things...Bob

Correct: two different benefits from making one change.
  1. Want to listen to the radio when engine is off? Flip the toggle switch and turn the ignition on.
  2. Want a theft deterent? Flip the toggle switch.
Make sense?

iiizman 01-19-2011 10:45 PM

Re: '65 Anti Theft & Ignition ACC Toggle Switch
 
Why not a small three position toggle with relays on both sides of the switch. That would let you use the small switch and wiring the relays to do what you want. I later hooked mine to the outputs of my VSE alarm, which I liked better. There are alot of creative people on here. I am sure someone will come up with some good ideas.

62ShortStep 01-19-2011 11:33 PM

Re: '65 Anti Theft & Ignition ACC Toggle Switch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lakeroadster (Post 4424260)
Correct: two different benefits from making one change.
  1. Want to listen to the radio when engine is off? Flip the toggle switch and turn the ignition on.
  2. Want a theft deterent? Flip the toggle switch.
Make sense?

Makes sense to me, and its simple too. Think I'll do that to my '62.
Doh! That rhymes! I've done that so many times.
Doh!

Heater63 01-19-2011 11:45 PM

Re: '65 Anti Theft & Ignition ACC Toggle Switch
 
I've wondered for some time how to do this. I definitely want a hidden "kill" switch, and the "acc" feature. I like your ideas- who is a resident electrical guru on our board?? We need to PM them to jump in- I like to be spoon fed when it comes to relays and wiring schemes! LOL
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cb1965 01-19-2011 11:48 PM

Re: '65 Anti Theft & Ignition ACC Toggle Switch
 
i have a toggle switch that cuts power to my coil. from ignition to toggle switch to coil. simple and effective:metal:

chevy_mike 01-20-2011 01:35 AM

Re: '65 Anti Theft & Ignition ACC Toggle Switch
 
Yep, that would work fine. All I need now is a radio to listen too. :D

62ShortStep 01-20-2011 02:52 AM

Re: '65 Anti Theft & Ignition ACC Toggle Switch
 
Lakeroadster- I work with some engineers who sometimes forget the basics of designing. Even though many people can come up with deigns that work, the trick is to accomplish a design with as few parts, complexity, and resources as possible. The rewards are reliability, quick implementation, ease of use, and cost effectiveness. Thanks again for a good idea.

juanz1947 01-20-2011 03:02 AM

Re: '65 Anti Theft & Ignition ACC Toggle Switch
 
sound like some thing i need to do

Big Fenders 01-20-2011 10:01 PM

Re: '65 Anti Theft & Ignition ACC Toggle Switch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lakeroadster (Post 4424260)
Correct: two different benefits from making one change.
  1. Want to listen to the radio when engine is off? Flip the toggle switch and turn the ignition on.
  2. Want a theft deterent? Flip the toggle switch.
Make sense?

That would work as long as the toggle is switch is hidden from view.
Bob

SCOTI 01-20-2011 10:27 PM

Re: '65 Anti Theft & Ignition ACC Toggle Switch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fenders (Post 4426654)
That would work as long as the toggle is switch is hidden from view.
Bob

Or even better, hidden in plain view.

lakeroadster 01-21-2011 08:52 AM

Re: '65 Anti Theft & Ignition ACC Toggle Switch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 62ShortStep (Post 4424987)
Lakeroadster- I work with some engineers who sometimes forget the basics of designing. Even though many people can come up with deigns that work, the trick is to accomplish a design with as few parts, complexity, and resources as possible. The rewards are reliability, quick implementation, ease of use, and cost effectiveness. Thanks again for a good idea.

Thanks for the post. I used to make a living as a Mechanical Engineer. I miss working with customers and the guys on the shop floor. Mutual respect.... I always seemed to get along with the end users and the product builders, and a big part of that was based on what you posted. One of the things I always told my managers was to "stop hiring Engineers that don't have enough mechanical aptitude to change the tire on their own vehicle".

I worked with way too many engineers in my career that had chosen the incorrect path on the yellow brick road, so to say.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fenders (Post 4426654)
That would work as long as the toggle is switch is hidden from view.
Bob

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 4426713)
Or even better, hidden in plain view.

I have a buddy, Kevin Erisman, back in Ohio who does suspension modifications http://www.hackersparadise.biz/index.html Kevin will lower any and every kind of vehicle. One of his signature modifications is locating the air ride suspension controls into the orignal vintage radio. Basically by pushing in on the frequency set buttons you can air up or air down the suspension.

Neat stuff!


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