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MSL 04-03-2003 06:52 AM

Spark plugs
 
What spark plugs do you run im using some champions and they just plain suck i had ngk and they where better than the champions. what could i try that will not faul so fast or easy.

Mike76251 04-03-2003 07:18 AM

I have had good luck with Bosch Platinums,
They are real hard to foul.

You probably need a carb overhaul (or a new carb) if you are fouling plugs.

MSL 04-03-2003 07:34 AM

I have a brandnew edelbrock performer 650 carb. i just want to run a better plug.

Mike76251 04-03-2003 07:42 AM

Man.......
Fouling with a new carb.........

It is probably a little rich as they set them that way from the factory (for good reason) but it should not be eating plugs.

Have you done any ignition mods yet?

MSL 04-03-2003 07:46 AM

Ya it is a little rich. no i havent done any mods yet. When i bought the truck it had ngk plugs in it and it ran pretty good but i like to change plugs when i get a new vehicle since you never know how long they have been in there and i bought some champion truck plugs i dont think they are as good.

CHaingKaiShek 04-03-2003 07:50 AM

I've had bad luck with Champion plugs, unless they were in a lawnmower that is :)

Anyway, I'd suggest you go get some replacement NGK plugs, that is what I used to run all the time before I installed my headers. Now due to space restrictions, I have to run these crappy ACCEL U-groove header plugs.

If you dont want to buy NGK's, get ACdelco plugs. They work great.

Jeff :flag: :burnout: :canada:

Mike76251 04-03-2003 07:51 AM

A MSD spark box will cure it if you can do it.
I don't much like Champions either. They are good in my Snapper but not in anything with 4 wheels (for me).

MSL 04-03-2003 07:51 AM

Ya i was looking at Ac delco,ngk,bosch why are accels crappy?

MSL 04-03-2003 07:52 AM

what kind of MSD box do you recommend i know they make alot but i dont need anything to hot since the engine is pretty stock but i do feel it needs something.

CHaingKaiShek 04-03-2003 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MSL
Ya i was looking at Ac delco,ngk,bosch why are accels crappy?
The accel hedder plug is just a crappy design I think ;) they foul out almost as much as the champion plugs, and my truck is by no means running rich.

NGK's and ACDELCO's are the two best in my book.

As for the MSD box, assuming you mean ignition box - 6AL is the one sitting on my shelf to be installed, dont know if you need that much however. ;)

Jeff

Mike76251 04-03-2003 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CHaingKaiShek
I've had bad luck with Champion plugs, unless they were in a lawnmower that is :)

Anyway, I'd suggest you go get some replacement NGK plugs, that is what I used to run all the time before I installed my headers. Now due to space restrictions, I have to run these crappy ACCEL U-groove header plugs.

If you dont want to buy NGK's, get ACdelco plugs. They work great.

AC Delco does make a good plug. If Bosch Platinums were not around thats what I would use.

I have two small blocks with headers on them and have enough room for any plug. You must have some angle plug heads on there.
I have heard many times that those Accel plugs are no good.

BTW: I love the "smoke and a pancake" line! I get a laugh everytime I see that.

MSL 04-03-2003 07:59 AM

probably try some ac delcos and see what happens and im not sure on what msd ignition box to use i have never looked into them.

CHaingKaiShek 04-03-2003 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike76251


AC Delco does make a good plug. If Bosch Platinums were not around thats what I would use.

I have two small blocks with headers on them and have enough room for any plug. You must have some angle plug heads on there.
I have heard many times that those Accel plugs are no good.

BTW: I love the "smoke and a pancake" line! I get a laugh everytime I see that.

Not angle plug heads.

I can get the plugs into the heads just fine, however the wire BOOTS press up on a few of the tubes, which would cause them to burn or melt, which I do not want. So instead I use those shortie plugs.

I'm using a cheap set of Flow-tech headers, so maybe when/if I put the hedmans on. I wont have the problem anymore.

Jeff

MSL 04-03-2003 08:03 AM

Hey Mike76251 do you have a msd box? which one do you use if you do.

Mike76251 04-03-2003 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MSL
what kind of MSD box do you recommend i know they make alot but i dont need anything to hot since the engine is pretty stock but i do feel it needs something.
Yeah....the 6AL is the one to use.
Like it has been said though....you might not need it.
I added one and it made 0 difference in my truck.
That is with the 305 though. We will see more when I get this 383 I have in.

swervin ervin 04-03-2003 12:52 PM

I highly recommend NGK's. Best plug I've ever used. A MSD box is not needed for any stock engine setup. It will help with better starts, smoother running and mileage though. You could just add a better coil in your distributor to help too.

If you do decide to get one, you don't need a 6AL, just the 6A. The 6AL, like I have has a built in rpm limiter to keep from overreving. Something a stock engine don't need. There is quite a bit of difference in price between the two also.

Ol' Grey 04-03-2003 01:40 PM

NGK makes a great plug. I use the platinum TR55VX in my car and the V-Power UR5 in my truck.
Here's the V-Power:
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/images/tip/NGK_18B.jpg

TIMSPEED 04-03-2003 01:48 PM

I use NOTHING BUT AC Delco Rapidfire's (in my vette, saturn, and truck)

PHOENIX 04-03-2003 02:00 PM

I use just plain AC Delco's, never had a problem and truck runs great. I almost bought NGK's last time when the ac's were out of stock.

Blue Beard 04-03-2003 02:07 PM

I use the NGK plugs, you can play with the heat ranges on these as well.

My cycle I like the Bosch, fires better for the hard starting bike.

MSL 04-03-2003 05:25 PM

Thanks for the input.:burnout:

MSL 04-03-2003 05:57 PM

Ok instead of getting a msd box since my truck is stock almost.lol what kind of coil for my HEI dist should i get i know it has the stock one in it right now.

apstguy 04-03-2003 06:22 PM

Get an MSD HEI upgraded coil. MSD is THE company to deal with in ignition.

http://store.summitracing.com/produc...earchtype=ecat

BaggedC10 04-03-2003 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TIMSPEED
I use NOTHING BUT AC Delco Rapidfire's (in my vette, saturn, and truck)


Yep! :cool: I won't put anything but AC Delco spark plugs in my truck. :)

79BIG10 04-03-2003 07:47 PM

I've also ran AC, Champion Gold, NGK, an Bosch Platinum. Hands down the NGK are the best I've ran. The AC Delco are good too but the NGK are better. If you're fouling out then it's time to recheck your carb settings and timing.

BTW: Edelbrock doesn't make a 650. :)


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