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Firebirdjones 09-11-2011 11:57 AM

Front Sway Bar.....
 
I picked up one of these....


http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/x...1/P9090031.jpg

I'm going to adapt it to my 72 blazer. This is off of a 73 and up. After holding it under the blazer I can see the straight portion of the bar isn't close to reaching both sides of the frame. So it's obviously not going to work as is.

I assume I'm going to have to make a bracket of sorts for the frame mount bushings to attach to. I'm sure this has been done before.

I'd like to hear ideas and see pictures if possible of those that have done this. Did you use this style of factory bar or something else?
The fact that this is much narrower than my frame on the straight portion may pose a problem. I can't imagine the 73 and up blazers having a more narrow frame, so I must be missing something here. Which side does the bent portion of the bar face,,,driver side/passenger side? Holding it up there it appears it would fit either way as there is no obstruction to necessitate such a bend in the bar.
Someone fill me in please. Thanks.

hotrodhomi 09-11-2011 12:24 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
I'm not sure what that bar is from, but your local pickNpull should be full of the correct style bar. I thought the bar on my blazer was from a square body, but now I'm not so sure.

Firebirdjones 09-11-2011 12:32 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
This bar is supposed to be from a square body, 73 and up. But I didn't actually see the truck it came off of.

I was going to hit the local pick-a-part and grab some spring plates, which should all be similar up through the 80's I would think.
I'm not sure if they would have something old enough for me to look at though as far as the bar is concerned.

If you have any pics of what you did or how you did it please share. I'd like to gather all the information I can for a good plan of attack.

Firebirdjones 09-11-2011 12:37 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
Hey Hotrodhomi, are you talking about a front bar for the truck you have in the picture? That looks like a 2wd. If so yours would probably be easy to adapt just about any bar you wanted.

I guess I should have been more clear, sorry. Mine is a 4x4, which is why the ends of my bar are made differently to mount sidways on a leaf spring plate.

Firebirdjones 09-11-2011 12:38 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
Let me set this bar up under the truck and snap another pic to give everyone a better idea of what I'm dealing with....give me a few minutes.

Firebirdjones 09-11-2011 12:44 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
I hope this pic helps explain.

As you can see, the straight portion of the bar isn't nearly as wide as the frame, so attaching the frame mounts poses a problem. In this pic I have the bend portion on the driver side, but why it's there I have no idea as it doesn't appear to be necessary for anything.

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/x...1/P9090032.jpg

hotrodhomi 09-11-2011 12:45 PM

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yes, I was talking about 2wd. 4x4 might as well be Chinese algebra, I have no idea.

1949gmc 09-11-2011 04:23 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
Check out KrazyRay's parts thread. He was selling the whole shebang and has a few pictures posted in his thread. Looks like you'll need the front crossmember outta that square body.

BobbyK 09-11-2011 04:56 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
On my 71 Blazer I made some mounts using that same bar.

I made a post about it here:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=139879



http://images18.fotki.com/v458/photo...SCN2169-vi.jpg






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Firebirdjones 09-11-2011 05:36 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
Hmmm interesting. Judging by all the pics from the original and the pics of the home made brackets (thanks 1949GMC and Bobby)

It appear to me that if I did locate a factory cross member, that I'd probably have to remove the original to fit the sway bar cross member in there. If that's the case I'm not so sure I'm willing to do that as I have brake lines running along the current cross member, I'd have to re-run brakes lines and who knows what else.

KrazyRay looks like he hasn't been on that thread in a couple months. I'll see if I can locate a cross member locally. If I can find a truck with a cross member, it should also have the spring mounts I need.

Thanks for the links guys, it's giving me a direction to go now.

Firebirdjones 09-11-2011 05:50 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyK (Post 4893856)
On my 71 Blazer I made some mounts using that same bar.

I made a post about it here:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=139879



http://images18.fotki.com/v458/photo...SCN2169-vi.jpg






.

That's interesting. I may just go this route, I fabbed everything else up on this truck with an LS swap, why not some sway bar mounts ;)

Couple questions....

Is there any reason why you decided to bolt these mounts on rather than just weld them to the cross member?
I was thinking welding the square tube directly to the cross member without all the flanges sticking out might make for a cleaner look or make it look more like a part of the truck??

Also, you did this several years ago. How is it doing now? Any issues? I was wondering if that factory cross member would be strong enough to take abuse over a long period of time??

In any event, I can't even begin to fab anything until I find the spring plates, as that is going to dictate where the sway bar wants to be.
Thanks for anymore insite you can provide.

47thriftmaster 09-11-2011 06:51 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
Good questions, I wonder how it's been holding up as well. Plan on putting a sway bar in my 72' blazer, once I get to that point. Figure the handling would improve dramatically. Let us know how it's going.

Firebirdjones 09-11-2011 07:02 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
I'm doing it as my next project, just have to find the spring plates. I'll try pick-a-part this week.

More than likely at that point I'll probably make my own mounts.

I'd like to hear from Bobby on my questions though, when he gets time, I'm curious.

BobbyK 09-11-2011 07:12 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
The factory cross member ripped itself apart after only a few months......



Just kidding, it's still holding up great after almost 7 years, no issue's.

I bolted it in so that if something went wrong,like I found out I designed it wrong and had to redo it, or move it or something like that, that bolts are easier to remove than welds.

I'm happy with it,makes the Blazer easier to drive(handling wise).




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BobbyK 09-11-2011 07:15 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
Here is the link to ALL the pic's I took while making the sway bar mounts.

http://public.fotki.com/blazbk/blaze...ation_of_fron/




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Firebirdjones 09-11-2011 11:16 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
Thanks again guys. I'll keep a link to this thread and update my progress.

jeremywrags 09-14-2011 05:17 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
Looking at the pic below, it looks like you have yours mocked up backwards?

I have mine like mounted like BobbyK with the curve on the passenger side...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebirdjones (Post 4893562)
I hope this pic helps explain.

As you can see, the straight portion of the bar isn't nearly as wide as the frame, so attaching the frame mounts poses a problem. In this pic I have the bend portion on the driver side, but why it's there I have no idea as it doesn't appear to be necessary for anything.

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/x...1/P9090032.jpg


Firebirdjones 09-14-2011 08:21 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
You are right Jeremy, the bend goes on the passenger side. I wasn't sure myself until I saw a picture of Bobby's. :lol:


I've got the 2"x4" square tube steel to make some front brackets. I still can't find the leaf spring plates though. I haven't given up yet.

jeremywrags 09-14-2011 11:13 PM

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Make you a deal... Make 2 sets of brackets send me one and I will send you a set of spring plates?
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Firebirdjones 09-15-2011 12:32 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
Where are you located?

I could make a set of brackets for you easily enough, as long as you have the ability to trim if need be, as each blazer may be slightly different.
Also do you have the ability to weld? I was thinking of welding mine to the cross member for a more finished look (stronger??) rather than making plates to bolt them on. I could do it either way however.

Now the biggest problem is the fact that I can't make the brackets without the spring plates. The spring plates will dictate where the sway bar sits exactly, so I need that bolted on to take measurements and make the brackets.

If you want to sell a set of spring plates I'm more than willing to buy if the price doesn't kill me ;), then when I get this done I'll make an extra set of brackets and just ship them to you no charge.

Will that work?

jeremywrags 09-15-2011 01:16 PM

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I'm going to the Bone yard tomorrow, last time I was there they had two 4x's so if they have not already been stripped i'll grab em for you.

We'll talk about the brackets after you finish. At the moment I am lacking a crossmember all together. I had to cut mine out to fix a frame crack and am undecided as to weather to weld it back together and go stock XMember with custom Sway bar mount or go custom for the whole XMember...

Here's a pic of where I am at right now. Considering just keeping the 2x4 & rope :lol:

[IMG]http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/attachment.php?
attachmentid=801077&stc=1&d=1316106955[/IMG]

Firebirdjones 09-15-2011 04:34 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
Just give me a shout on the spring plates. That's the only thing holding me up at the moment. So far the places I've checked around here came up empty. There is another place a little further up the road, I just haven't had time to run up there yet.
Once I can position the bar with the plates, I can make an extra set of brackets no sweat.

71RestoRod 09-16-2011 09:51 AM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
Here's another detailed how-to photo essay.

http://rides.webshots.com/album/191615442tocPHU

I ran these mounts for about five years with the ORD quick disconnects. Over the last two years, I've had the disconnects pulled out and the bar linked directly to the spring plates which (in addition to the anti-sway) stiffens up the steering. I have really soft Alcan springs in the front and they tend to wrap. The bar doesn't cure but does help to minimize the axle wrap considerably. Over 25,000 miles and no sign whatsoever of stress cracks. It's been a long time, but as I recall I only had to drill two 3/8" holes in the cross member.

http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/44...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb05.webshots.com/49...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb27.webshots.com/47...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/27...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/47...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/94...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb34.webshots.com/45...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/27...600x600Q85.jpg

Firebirdjones 09-16-2011 02:04 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 71RestoRod (Post 4902273)
Here's another detailed how-to photo essay.

http://rides.webshots.com/album/191615442tocPHU

I ran these mounts for about five years with the ORD quick disconnects. Over the last two years, I've had the disconnects pulled out and the bar linked directly to the spring plates which (in addition to the anti-sway) stiffens up the steering. I have really soft Alcan springs in the front and they tend to wrap. The bar doesn't cure but does help to minimize the axle wrap considerably. Over 25,000 miles and no sign whatsoever of stress cracks. It's been a long time, but as I recall I only had to drill two 3/8" holes in the cross member.

http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/44...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb05.webshots.com/49...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb27.webshots.com/47...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/27...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/47...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/94...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb34.webshots.com/45...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/27...600x600Q85.jpg

Please tell me more about the ORD quick disconnects. I've been wanting to incorporate that into my front bar too, just didn't know someone made them.

71RestoRod 09-16-2011 02:14 PM

Re: Front Sway Bar.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebirdjones (Post 4902631)
Please tell me more about the ORD quick disconnects. I've been wanting to incorporate that into my front bar too, just didn't know someone made them.

http://offroaddesign.com/catalog/swaybarkit.htm


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