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kikkegek 03-23-2013 02:27 PM

Grease upper balljoint on 4x4
 
guys I need some help please.

I have tried every thinkable position of te wheel and axle, but cant reach this grease fitting.

I have tried regular connection and needle...

how do you guys grease these babys?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-k.../WP_000046.jpg

Pano 03-23-2013 04:22 PM

Re: Grease upper balljoint on 4x4
 
I am not sure what you've got but check out this website, it says factory ball joints don't have grease fittings.

http://www.chuckschevytruckpages.com/lubepoints.html
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hatzie 03-24-2013 12:23 AM

Re: Grease upper balljoint on 4x4
 
The installer should've used a 90° Zerk.
The only thing I can think of in your situation is a low profile slotted 90° grease gun fitting like this one http://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-Lubrication-5883-Slo... http://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-Lubrication-5883-Slo......

Walts_restoration 03-24-2013 12:25 AM

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That was a master pro joint. Lol moogs offset so that you can grease them with axle in place.

dieseldawg142 03-24-2013 02:11 AM

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could you get something like this in there?

kikkegek 03-24-2013 06:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hatzie (Post 5966952)
The installer should've used a 90° Zerk.
The only thing I can think of in your situation is a low profile slotted 90° grease gun fitting like this one http://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-Lubric...gy_auto_text_y...

I went out to buy such a fitting, but the guys behind the counter at the tool shop told me those are for these flat grease fittings:

http://www.esska-tech.co.uk/esska_en...ppel_flach.jpg

that is why he sold me a neeld adapter:

http://mcdn.toolking.com/catalog/pro...dle_Nozzle.jpg

but so far I have moved the car a hundred times, but not been able to get the right angle to grease the fittings...

hope somebody can shine some light on this based on personal experience...

Zane M 03-24-2013 07:58 AM

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You should be able to remove that zerk and install a 90 degree one in its place. Then, as long as you have it positioned correctly, you will be able to get a grease gun onto it.

bilfman 03-24-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by zane m (Post 5967196)
you should be able to remove that zerk and install a 90 degree one in its place. Then, as long as you have it positioned correctly, you will be able to get a grease gun onto it.

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kikkegek 03-24-2013 11:18 AM

Re: Grease upper balljoint on 4x4
 
Guys,

got any pictures of these 90 degree angle zerk fittings in place? I am asking this, because in my case it seems there would just not be nough room in there for such a fitting.

LONGHAIR 03-24-2013 01:41 PM

Re: Grease upper balljoint on 4x4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kikkegek (Post 5967493)
Guys,

got any pictures of these 90 degree angle zerk fittings in place? I am asking this, because in my case it seems there would just not be nough room in there for such a fitting.

I'm pretty sure you can't. The way I remember them back in the day was with a plug. You would install the knuckle, after pressing the ball-joints into it. Screw in the regular straight fitting, grease the joint as usual. Then you remove the fitting and install the plug that came with it. They were shorter than the fitting and less likely to break.
Apparently the thinking was that you would need to service the axle joints again by the time you needed to add grease to the ball-joints?
Before Spicer came up with the geaseable axle joints, they were un-serviceable too.

motornut 03-24-2013 05:29 PM

Re: Grease upper balljoint on 4x4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LONGHAIR (Post 5967745)
I'm pretty sure you can't. The way I remember them back in the day was with a plug. You would install the knuckle, after pressing the ball-joints into it. Screw in the regular straight fitting, grease the joint as usual. Then you remove the fitting and install the plug that came with it. They were shorter than the fitting and less likely to break.
Apparently the thinking was that you would need to service the axle joints again by the time you needed to add grease to the ball-joints?
Before Spicer came up with the geaseable axle joints, they were un-serviceable too.

thats what i was told doing mine in the 87

hatzie 03-24-2013 05:52 PM

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http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...cL._SX300_.jpg
Try one of these with the U-Joint turned to the right position...;)

LONGHAIR 03-24-2013 06:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hatzie (Post 5968197)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...cL._SX300_.jpg
Try one of these with the U-Joint turned to the right position...;)

Those require a specific fitting, not the typical zerk.

hatzie 03-24-2013 11:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LONGHAIR (Post 5968241)
Those require a specific fitting, not the typical zerk.

I've used one on straight zerks that were difficult to reach at best. Dirty grease squirted out around the unsealed shaft away from the zerk so it was feeding through and not just making a mess at the zerk. It wasn't a super tight seal though.
I'd be interested to see the fitting they were actually made for. If it's low enough profile it might be worth changing to... in places like the upper Ball Joint on the Dana44 and down those nasty holes on the baler and the chopper... If I can reach em to swap em out.

kikkegek 03-25-2013 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by hatzie (Post 5969044)
I'd be interested to see the fitting they were actually made for.

I posted it in one of my previous posts:

http://www.esska-tech.co.uk/esska_en...ppel_flach.jpg

cory d 03-25-2013 02:46 AM

Re: Grease upper balljoint on 4x4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Walts_restoration (Post 5966955)
That was a master pro joint. Lol moogs offset so that you can grease them with axle in place.

another reason to not buy master pro

kikkegek 04-20-2013 10:00 AM

Re: Grease upper balljoint on 4x4
 
okay, today I tried this fitting. got it from Amazon for great deal.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...cL._SX300_.jpg

I thin I had it hooked up, but still no grease went into the zerk fitting I think.

man, this greae point is giving me a head-ache.

any 4x4 brothers here that succeeded?

kikkegek 04-20-2013 01:04 PM

Re: Grease upper balljoint on 4x4
 
anybody know the thread of these fittings?

I want to remove the straight fitting and use a 90 degree fitting to grease it and when I am done plug it with a blind fitting.

what is the thread size?

what are the blind fittings called? any special name?

kikkegek 09-17-2013 10:12 AM

Re: Grease upper balljoint on 4x4
 
guys!

suc6!

so happy.....tried the Thexton grease coupler again today and I guess I never had it put on correctly before.

I used a plier to put it on and then connected the grease gun...et voila! suc6...upper balljoints are greased now.

just wanted to give heads up over here on my succes.

this is the link to the tool:


Thexton THE418 Grease Coupler
Thexton THE418 Grease Coupler : Amazon.com :... Thexton THE418 Grease Coupler : Amazon.com :...


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