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81GMCSierra1500 06-22-2014 12:32 AM

1981 GMC Sierra Headlight Issue
 
Hi all,

I have a 1981 GMC Sierra Classic, with the quad headlight front end, and I've just encountered an issue with my headlights. I'll pull the knob, and everything BUT my headlights will turn on... EXCEPT, when I have my high beams on, the top two headlights turn on to the regular low-beam setting. Just to clarify, when headlights are on W/O high beams, nothing is on, and when I turn the high beams on, the lower bank doesn't turn on, but the upper bank goes to it's "low" setting, and no "high beam" light comes on in the dash either... What's wrong!?!

81GMCSierra1500 06-22-2014 12:34 AM

Re: 1981 GMC Sierra Headlight Issue
 
I'm hoping it's just a pull knob issue, and not a major cost...

Your41Plague12 06-22-2014 09:21 PM

Re: 1981 GMC Sierra Headlight Issue
 
Probably a bad dimmer switch. Mine went bad in my '83 once, and it did something similar. It's cheap, so it's probably worth a shot.

81GMCSierra1500 06-23-2014 12:03 AM

Re: 1981 GMC Sierra Headlight Issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Your41Plague12 (Post 6731794)
Probably a bad dimmer switch. Mine went bad in my '83 once, and it did something similar. It's cheap, so it's probably worth a shot.

Update. Went and bought a new dimmer switch, same issue is still happening... could it be my on-floor high beam?

motornut 06-23-2014 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 81GMCSierra1500 (Post 6732090)
Update. Went and bought a new dimmer switch, same issue is still happening... could it be my on-floor high beam?

you can try to jumper the floor headlight dimmer (not dash dimmer) for testing,those wires at the plug heat up some and can melt the plug,worth a peek down there

Your41Plague12 06-23-2014 09:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 81GMCSierra1500 (Post 6732090)
Update. Went and bought a new dimmer switch, same issue is still happening... could it be my on-floor high beam?

That's what I meant by dimmer switch. It's probably your "high beam switch" on the floor.

81GMCSierra1500 06-23-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Your41Plague12 (Post 6732424)
That's what I meant by dimmer switch. It's probably your "high beam switch" on the floor.

That's what I thought it was... I will try that, as it was next on my list...

Cheers, guys!

'81

Your41Plague12 06-24-2014 08:26 PM

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Let us know how it worked out. I'm pretty sure that's your problem, the same thing happened in my '83 and that was the culprit.

81GMCSierra1500 06-25-2014 02:04 AM

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Will do as soon as I'm done with my Grad. Once that's finished, I'll have all summer! :)

clinebarger 06-25-2014 08:26 PM

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The Delco-Remy floor mounted dimmer switches rarely goes actually bad, They get dirty, 10 to 20 quick stomps on it will fix it (Have the head lamps OFF during this!)

81GMCSierra1500 06-27-2014 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by clinebarger (Post 6736159)
The Delco-Remy floor mounted dimmer switches rarely goes actually bad, They get dirty, 10 to 20 quick stomps on it will fix it (Have the head lamps OFF during this!)

Tried this several times, same thing is happening. I'm thinking it's either the switch or the wiring/plug. I'll take a deeper look at it this weekend.

81GMCSierra1500 08-11-2014 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 81GMCSierra1500 (Post 6738496)
Tried this several times, same thing is happening. I'm thinking it's either the switch or the wiring/plug. I'll take a deeper look at it this weekend.

Okay, still having the same issue with the headlights, and I am starting to worry... I also, don't want to spend the money on the floor-switch, especially if there's the chance that isn't the issue, same story as when I replaced the main dimmer switch & pull knob... Any thoughts? I will spend the money if I have to, but yeah...

81GMCSierra1500 08-11-2014 09:10 PM

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And adding to the predicament, I have no gauge lighting either... what's happening!?!

larey 08-11-2014 09:48 PM

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Look at this thread "http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=545416" and get your manuals first is what I would recommend as it normally shows you what to look for. For your year on page 977 of the repair manual it shows what to look at first and what to test with a multi-meter.

Second part did you have gauge lights before you changed the dimmer switch in the dash?

I looked and could not find a circuit breaker or relay for you set-up except inside your actual headlight switch, on page 1069 which has the schematic on it.

Hope this may help..

Larey

81GMCSierra1500 08-11-2014 09:55 PM

Re: 1981 GMC Sierra Headlight Issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by larey (Post 6798293)
Look at this thread "http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=545416" and get your manuals first is what I would recommend as it normally shows you what to look for. For your year on page 977 of the repair manual it shows what to look at first and what to test with a multi-meter.

Second part did you have gauge lights before you changed the dimmer switch in the dash?

I looked and could not find a circuit breaker or relay for you set-up except inside your actual headlight switch, on page 1069 which has the schematic on it.

Hope this may help..

Larey

Larey,

I did not have dash lights before the dimmer swap, nor did I afterwards, but I am thinking the "Gauges" fuse is blown, but it is obstructed by a white plug, which I can't remove, so I won't be able to tell how too get that out... Is there a chance that the headlights are tied into the gauge lighting? and the next thing I'll try to do with the headlights is the floor switch, and if that doesn't work, into the shop she goes!

larey 08-12-2014 09:09 AM

Re: 1981 GMC Sierra Headlight Issue
 
All the lights are tied into the headlight switch itself looking at the schematic. I would start there before you buy anything else.

81GMCSierra1500 08-12-2014 12:53 PM

Re: 1981 GMC Sierra Headlight Issue
 
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Originally Posted by larey (Post 6798796)
All the lights are tied into the headlight switch itself looking at the schematic. I would start there before you buy anything else.

Yeah, I think I'm onto my answer through a different thread, I'm going to replace my main battery-to-frame ground wire, as there's almost nothing left of it. And I already replaced my main switch, and that was most likely a complete waste of money and time...

c3006 08-12-2014 06:05 PM

Re: 1981 GMC Sierra Headlight Issue
 
Check the two small black ground wires from your headlight sockets to the sheet metal also,those ground wires can cause havoc with the electric system.

81GMCSierra1500 08-12-2014 06:09 PM

Re: 1981 GMC Sierra Headlight Issue
 
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Originally Posted by c3006 (Post 6799428)
Check the two small black ground wires from your headlight sockets to the sheet metal also,those ground wires can cause havoc with the electric system.

Yeah, willdo, I just swapped my original battery-to-rad support wire, and that did nothing... I'm going to have to get a pro to look at the old 'gal

Just call me Sean 08-12-2014 06:16 PM

Re: 1981 GMC Sierra Headlight Issue
 
Did you check the dash ground yet?

81GMCSierra1500 08-12-2014 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Just call me Sean (Post 6799439)
Did you check the dash ground yet?

Couldn't find it... Remind me of where it is again?

Just call me Sean 08-12-2014 06:19 PM

Re: 1981 GMC Sierra Headlight Issue
 
Left of the column. Will be easier to find if you pull out the duct that passes under the column.

81GMCSierra1500 08-12-2014 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Just call me Sean (Post 6799444)
Left of the column. Will be easier to find if you pull out the duct that passes under the column.

I will work on that tomorrow for sure, I need to get this fixed! I appreciate the help, everyone, especially Sean :)

TN_Farmboy 02-06-2015 11:55 AM

Re: 1981 GMC Sierra Headlight Issue
 
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Originally Posted by 81GMCSierra1500 (Post 6799452)
I will work on that tomorrow for sure, I need to get this fixed! I appreciate the help, everyone, especially Sean :)

81GMC- Did you have any luck with this fix? I've also got a '81 Sierra Classic that is giving me the same issues. I've replaced the dimmer switch to no avail. Trying to get some ideas before throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks.

Thanks!


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