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plumbers crack 07-11-2014 10:19 PM

Tach with Lil fuel gauge
 
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I found one after searching dozens of yards. I cleaned it up, painted the needles and installed it and the fuel gauge works. Does any one know how many pulses the tach needs to work? I have a few options for signal out put for the cummins but need to know the pulses so I can order the right unit.

The donor truck was a top kick with the 8.3 or something non turbo cat engine.

Just call me Sean 07-11-2014 10:46 PM

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Now you just need a clock.

plumbers crack 07-11-2014 10:51 PM

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Yes sir, when I find one worth using.

t_graham11 07-11-2014 10:57 PM

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I just went to look at a shortbed frame and can across a cluster just like that I paid the guy cash right there offered him 100$ for it... We got to talking and he is I ended up with an amazing deal, frame, can complete with interior and a new fuel tank and sender all for 300$

That's the beauty about old chevy owners they pass on the generosity to each other

hatzie 07-12-2014 01:15 PM

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Cat Diesel Tach. I believe it runs off a tap in the windings of the alternator so Pulley diameter ratio and the number of poles in the alternator will all enter into it. If you're not driving it with the same Diesel alternator with the same diameter crank pulley you'll have some head scratching to do.

I'd start by setting up a bench experiment to drive the tach with a DC power supply, audio frequency generator, and frequency counter. Then I'd record the frequency to RPM relationship every 500 RPM.
Then I'd attach the frequency counter to a stator tap on the AC side of the diodes in your alternator and observe the frequency vs RPM from the alternator...

Some "Light Reading" :D
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/89...ring-tach.html

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/63-...lead-tach.html

http://www.turbodieselregister.com/t...for-tach-drive

http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php...r-driven-Tachs

bdiamond 07-12-2014 10:52 PM

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Is that km/h? 140 mph speedo would be cool....

Just call me Sean 07-12-2014 11:08 PM

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Yes kilometers, he's in Canada. I wonder if you could regear the speedometer gears to make it read correctly as MPH.

plumbers crack 07-13-2014 12:01 AM

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Hatzie, it is all making sense now, guess I have to make a trip to the wreakers where the gauge came from and measure the crank and alt pulley and pull the alt. I have to spend a few hours searching here again too see if anyone has got one of these tach to work.

plumbers crack 07-13-2014 12:04 AM

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The speedo is in kph. The iroc speedo might be 140 mph.

mr.chevyblack 07-13-2014 01:58 AM

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all you need is a dakota digital dsl-1 hooks to the altnator and give you your 8 cly pulse out put you would need for a cummins ive done it on a few of my trucks

hatzie 07-13-2014 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mr.chevyblack (Post 6758745)
all you need is a dakota digital dsl-1 hooks to the altnator and give you your 8 cly pulse out put you would need for a cummins ive done it on a few of my trucks

For a Gasoline engine tach...
His tach is off a Cat Diesel in a 40-60 series heavy hauler and it's going on his Cummins...

"The donor truck was a top kick with the 8.3 or something non turbo cat engine."

wraprail 07-13-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bdiamond (Post 6758598)
Is that km/h? 140 mph speedo would be cool....

150mph speedo even better

http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/...1E6874D383.jpg

ray_mcavoy 07-13-2014 08:56 PM

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Many of the GM medium duty trucks with diesel engines used a magnetic pickup mounted near the flywheel for the tachometer signal.

Here's some info from an old GM service bulletin:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps9a8ccae6.jpg

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If this applies to your tach, the required pulses per revolution will equal the number of teeth on the donor truck's flywheel.

hatzie 07-13-2014 09:20 PM

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The plot thickens...
Bunch of worthwhile info out there in TSB sheets...

plumbers crack 07-13-2014 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ray_mcavoy (Post 6759660)
Many of the GM medium duty trucks with diesel engines used a magnetic pickup mounted near the flywheel for the tachometer signal.

Where did you get that from? That is great info, I must have really good look at the donor truck, see which it is. I should have scratched down the vin.

meatwagon83 07-13-2014 10:53 PM

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i would love one of those clusters, guess i need to keep my eyes peeled

motornut 07-14-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by plumbers crack (Post 6757431)
I found one after searching dozens of yards. I cleaned it up, painted the needles and installed it and the fuel gauge works. Does any one know how many pulses the tach needs to work? I have a few options for signal out put for the cummins but need to know the pulses so I can order the right unit.

The donor truck was a top kick with the 8.3 or something non turbo cat engine.

looks good,nice score!

hatzie 07-14-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by plumbers crack (Post 6759843)
Where did you get that from? That is great info, I must have really good look at the donor truck, see which it is. I should have scratched down the vin.

I have a few TSBs from the 70's but haven't had time to scan them. You see them at swapmeets sometimes. I've seen that one before but I don't believe it's in my hardcopies.

plumbers crack 12-30-2014 08:54 PM

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I had a little time today to play with the tach and hook it up to my 89 gmc plow truck, it worked but at 2000rpm it read 250rpm. At idle it read just off the peg.

I've searched for shops in my area for someone to get me sorted with figuring out the pulses per but came up with nothing. I'm hoping that the Dakota digital box will work with its adjustability.

86c20 12-30-2014 11:26 PM

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that cat motor is a 3208. its a v8 so the gas v8 tach will work back and forth. as long as sender is the same. alt or mag or what ever still 8 pluse

nonstop 12-31-2014 04:35 AM

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I went through this hooking mine up. It picks up off the flywheel teeth. I found a magnetic pick up, drilled a hole in the bellhousing and wired one wire to ground with the other to the tach. It works, but is off since the 454 uses a 168 tooth flywheel and the medium duty trucks use different counts on their flywheels.


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