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nascarmikeb 02-07-2016 09:32 PM

fuel tank issues
 
This thread may be posted on this site, but I can't locate it. I have an '87 GMC SWB. Of course it has dual tanks w/ electric fuel pumps. I am put in a carbureted engine, w/ mechanical fuel pump. Should I remove the electric pump? If so, what different parts, if any will I need where the pickup line goes into the tank?

Or, will the mechanical pump pull the fuel through the old electric pump?

Mike

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 08:49 AM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nascarmikeb (Post 7477624)
This thread may be posted on this site, but I can't locate it. I have an '87 GMC SWB. Of course it has dual tanks w/ electric fuel pumps. I am put in a carbureted engine, w/ mechanical fuel pump. Should I remove the electric pump? If so, what different parts, if any will I need where the pickup line goes into the tank?

Or, will the mechanical pump pull the fuel through the old electric pump?

Mike

Why are you going mechanical pump? Why remove the intank pump when you can use the Intank fuel pump for a carb. Just need Some fittings and a bypass regulator.

nascarmikeb 02-08-2016 11:02 AM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
Thanks for the reply..
I don't have to remove the pump, just figured I needed to.
Can you point me in the direction of the parts that I will need? I will search for a bypass regulator online, but if there are some specific one that work well, I'm open to suggestions.
Mike

nascarmikeb 02-08-2016 11:14 AM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...12-803bp_w.jpg

This looks like what I need
I'm running a holley 650

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 11:32 AM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nascarmikeb (Post 7478170)
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...12-803bp_w.jpg

This looks like what I need
I'm running a holley 650

As long as it is a bypass regulator. Yes. The return line needs to be as big as the feed line. Example -8 an feed -8 an return. But for that carb size -6 an will be fine.

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 11:32 AM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
Do you use both tanks or just 1?

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 12:47 PM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/rus-644123

http://m.summitracing.com/parts/rus-644113

The above goes on the hardline coming off of pump sender.

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 12:49 PM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/sum-220107b

Use this if using both tanks.
This is uncharted waters for me on this y cause I don't have the dual tanks. But with this run both feed line into it and one up to the fuel log.

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 01:08 PM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
you also will need new fuel line. What I used on mine was black braided fuel line. I used -8an but my motor isn't stock by any means. For what you have do -6an.

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 01:09 PM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
And a new inline fuel filter.

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 01:15 PM

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Example of tank with quick connect and some 45 an fittings

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 01:17 PM

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And a close up. Now the hardline fittings I post above I ended up using them on my setup. The ones I posted above and that is what I have now are better than what is in the pic below.

nascarmikeb 02-08-2016 04:28 PM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
Got it that is great info
Ill start planning it now.
Only my driver side is functioning, I'd love to get both tanks going.

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 04:35 PM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nascarmikeb (Post 7478589)
Got it that is great info
Ill start planning it now.
Only my driver side is functioning, I'd love to get both tanks going.

Even better for me giving advice lol. Scratch the Y then.

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 04:36 PM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
Get those fittings fuel line fuel filter and a fuel log.

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 04:36 PM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
You want to mount the bypass regulator up as close and level to the carb as you can.

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 04:38 PM

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I bootlegged this off of the Internet. But this is ideal for mounting cause this isn't a bypass reg.

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 04:40 PM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
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Another example. This is not a bypass regulator but example of mounting.

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 04:42 PM

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This is what I have ordered for my carb to EFI now back to carb again after EFI BS. I run fuel logs so IMO this is the best of the best setup for a bypass carb system with intank pump.

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 04:43 PM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
But no matter what you get or do the key is the bypass regulator and having the return line the same size as the feed line. If you do t have the return line the same size as the feed line you get a pressure drop.

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 04:46 PM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
It looks like a lot of stuff but it's just plug and play really. And some money lol.

RodsGreen10 02-08-2016 04:56 PM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
Idk know your budget or how deep you want to get into it. But it is going to cost more that going mechanical pump. But it's a better system with in tank pump and bypass reg IMO.

65standard 02-08-2016 07:59 PM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
I'm sure you could just eliminate the in tank pump with a piece of hose. Then run the mechanical pump if you want.

nascarmikeb 02-08-2016 09:12 PM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
wow those pics make it look like a nice clean job
Ill start pricing it. So what are the advantages of using this type setup vs. old school mechanical?

RodsGreen10 02-09-2016 05:12 AM

Re: fuel tank issues
 
The advantages of the bypass style regulator

- Return style provides constant effective fuel pressure to the outlet port – pressure overage is bled off through the return port as needed.
- Constant effective fuel pressure enables fuel pressure to be set more accurately, and should remain constant regardless of load. It should be noted that the engine is not required to operate to accurately adjust fuel pressure, however, the fuel pump does need to be energized.
- Longer pump life and quieter pump operation as the pump is operating just hard enough to maintain pressure, instead of maintaining a higher as is the case of blocking style regulators.


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