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Koz1 07-31-2016 05:44 PM

Another 2 piece driveshaft angle question
 
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Here are current angles on mildly static lowered 1991 suburban

tailshaft angle -2.6 slope down towards center support bearing

1 shaft angle -3.6 slope down towards center support bearing

2nd shaft -1.3 slope down towards center support bearing

pinion angle -4.8 slope down to ground

all angles as posted have a - slope. Do these fall within range, there's a very minor vibration at 45-85, brand new wheels and tires, even before with the old stock factory wheels,had same slight vibration.
Also those listed angle above are very close to the before lowering of the vehicle at factory height.,lastly vehicle has 64k original,and i've serviced since new.

Koz1 07-31-2016 06:57 PM

Re: Another 2 piece driveshaft angle question
 
correction
all slopes are negative
2nd shaft angles towards rearend
pinion angle point's up so it's negative as well
using the spicer operating angle app
operating angle 1 is 1
operating angle 2 is 2.3
operating angle 3 is 3.5
do these angle's seem to be allright
btw- u-joints all tight,center carrier bearing no play,axle bearings,rearend,all ok.

clemsonteg 07-31-2016 09:30 PM

Re: Another 2 piece driveshaft angle question
 
I've always been told that the angle should be kept within 1 degree to minimize driveline vibration. Sounds like your rear end needs to rotate up a few degrees

SCOTI 08-01-2016 10:59 AM

Re: Another 2 piece driveshaft angle question
 
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Originally Posted by clemsonteg (Post 7670307)
I've always been told that the angle should be kept within 1 degree to minimize driveline vibration. Sounds like your rear end needs to rotate up a few degrees

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clemsonteg 08-02-2016 07:00 AM

Re: Another 2 piece driveshaft angle question
 
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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 7670731)
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Deleted because you planned to say something similar or deleted because it's a complicated subject? Just want to make sure I stated it correctly.

SCOTI 08-02-2016 08:48 AM

Re: Another 2 piece driveshaft angle question
 
While the Spicer info is correct, if you ask anyone w/knowledge on the subject, as soon as the rear-end is higher than the other driveline parts the numbers yield different results.

The best results I got w/my dually was aiming the rear pinion toward the carrier bearing while not keeping it straight.

clemsonteg 08-03-2016 07:12 AM

Re: Another 2 piece driveshaft angle question
 
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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 7671682)
While the Spicer info is correct, if you ask anyone w/knowledge on the subject, as soon as the rear-end is higher than the other driveline parts the numbers yield different results.

The best results I got w/my dually was aiming the rear pinion toward the carrier bearing while not keeping it straight.

Totally agree. 2 piece shafts are a little different than 1 piece shafts too. I think mine right now is around 5 degrees down on the tailshaft, 2 degrees down on the drive shaft, and the rear end points up around 5 degrees. It works, but I want to make it a little better. I read a ton of articles when I was setting it and probably confused myself more, but what I took from it was try to have similar angles on u joints and and have the trans and diff point opposite directions at similar angles (trans is pointing down as it points toward rear end and rear end is point up toward trans)

SCOTI 08-03-2016 03:25 PM

Re: Another 2 piece driveshaft angle question
 
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Originally Posted by Koz1 (Post 7670095)
Here are current angles on mildly static lowered 1991 suburban

tailshaft angle -2.6 slope down towards center support bearing

1 shaft angle -3.6 slope down towards center support bearing

2nd shaft -1.3 slope down towards center support bearing

pinion angle -4.8 slope down to ground

all angles as posted have a - slope. Do these fall within range, there's a very minor vibration at 45-85, brand new wheels and tires, even before with the old stock factory wheels,had same slight vibration.
Also those listed angle above are very close to the before lowering of the vehicle at factory height.,lastly vehicle has 64k original,and i've serviced since new.

So, lets make sure we're all on the same visual here....

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tailshaft angle -2.6 slope down towards center support bearing
The trans tailshaft is sloping down (higher @ the front of the vehicle vs rear (normal).

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1 shaft angle -3.6 slope down towards center support bearing
The main shaft is again higher @ the front/trans output vs the rear/carrier bearing (normal).

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2nd shaft -1.3 slope down towards center support bearing
Is the secondary shaft higher @ the front/carrier bearing than the rear/pinion joint (normal) or higher @ the rear than the front (not normal)?

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pinion angle -4.8 slope down to ground
Is the pinion (@ the u-joint) pointing up toward the sky or down toward the ground?

Koz1 08-03-2016 08:05 PM

Re: Another 2 piece driveshaft angle question
 
tailshaft down 2.6 toward ground
first shaft down 3.6 toward carrier bearing/ground
2nd shaft down 1.3 toward ground/rearend
pinion 4.8 pointed up to sky
thanks, i tried to edit very first post to make it simple but it wouldn't let me edit,i'm guessing there's a time lock after a post?


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