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Robert Haas 12-27-2019 05:53 PM

Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
I bought a barn find 1966 C10 from the original owner. He bought the truck in 1965/ He has always referred to it as a 65. The title states it is a 1965. It even has a 1965 Owners manual in the glove box. However the Vin comes back as a 1966. I advertised it originally as a 65 and was called to the carpet by the knowledgeable folks that sent me to research the VIN and sure as heck the VIN confirmed that I was wrong.

The DMV states they have no way of correcting it. How can that be possible?

jayoldschool 12-27-2019 06:54 PM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
Things to look for:
- C10 emblem placement
- VIN on door frame vs stamping on driver's frame rail
- SPID sticker in glove box

There are a few more differences between 65s and 66s.

Is this the black truck?

Clyde65 12-27-2019 06:57 PM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
If the VIN 5th digit is 6, then it’s a 66

Robert Haas 12-27-2019 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jayoldschool (Post 8649661)
Things to look for:
- C10 emblem placement
- VIN on door frame vs stamping on driver's frame rail
- SPID sticker in glove box

There are a few more differences between 65s and 66s.

Is this the black truck?

Yes sir.

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Lil Loafer 12-27-2019 08:46 PM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
The emblem on the drivers side is a 66. My thought is that it is a early 66 produced part way through 65 and titled as such for whatever reason.

The Rocknrod 12-27-2019 09:23 PM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
I used to be a vehicle verifyer in CA. Find one.

rickywideglide 12-27-2019 10:22 PM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
I believe instrument bezel was silver in 66 as well

oem4me 12-27-2019 11:25 PM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
E brake set up is new for 66. Take a look at that.
This truck may have been stashed in a barn for a long time, but from what I've seen, it's not quite the untouched "barn find" that gets our blood pumping. The truck has at some point been totally gone over. New paint inside and out, new upholstery, whole new engine, replaced bedwood, etc. My point is, even if a vehicle stays in a single family, that's no guarantee that all records remain intact/accurate and the vehicle itself remains exactly like it was built. Just sayin.

LostMy65 12-28-2019 12:25 AM

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The dash color doesn't look right for a 65 or 66
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...9&d=1577117044

LostMy65 12-28-2019 12:28 AM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
Also, does it have backup lights?
I can't quite tell from this pic.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...8&d=1577117044

60-66 12-28-2019 10:14 AM

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The VIN has to match the frame. I doubt the spid is still there being that the dash was repainted. If its there and frame matches door jamb VIN , ask Yelmer to help you determine when the truck was built , meaning the month of production . With all that's been done to this truck a lot more investigating is needed. If original drivetrain is there , dates on all the castings will help also . If not ?

jocko 12-28-2019 02:33 PM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
Is there a SPID? If yes, to me, that clinches it as a 66 (65s didn’t have them). If it doesn’t have a SPID, then it really doesn’t mean anything because it could have been removed during the repaint as pointed out above. With a repaint in its history, fender emblems don’t really matter, fenders get replaced all the time, regardless of what owners say. Bottom line, if VIN is a 66, it’s a 66, and was likely bought very early in the model year and the original DMV lady titled it as a “new” 65 in October or November 65. That is also likely why the original owner thought of it as a 65 - ie that’s when he bought it. Just because he is the original owner, it doesn’t mean that everything he says is gospel. Having said all that, am not surprised DMV said they cannot fix this. It might get fixed in a transaction, but not easily - would likely require the State Police and a new, non-sensical issued VIN, so I’d probably just leave it like it is.

63burban 12-28-2019 07:38 PM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
Could simply be a mis-print on the title or more likely the truck was in an accident at one time and repaired with 66 fenders and cowl extensions.

Clyde65 12-28-2019 11:19 PM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
New year model cars and trucks were started to be built around August of the year before, factory builds stopped around June of model year.

sstock 12-29-2019 01:25 PM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 63burban (Post 8650201)
Could simply be a mis-print on the title or more likely the truck was in an accident at one time and repaired with 66 fenders and cowl extensions.

Ditto, I just recently retitled my 64 GMC from Oregon to Wa, the lady at the Licensing office copied the VIN incorrectly, but I caught it and made her fix it on the spot, plus before surrendering your old out of state titles, make a copy for further authentication.

b454rat 12-29-2019 02:20 PM

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Does it have a th350? I thought 66 was the first year for it...

dtkarst 12-29-2019 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by b454rat (Post 8650656)
Does it have a th350? I thought 66 was the first year for it...

The th350 didn’t come out until 1969 if I’m not mistaken. They are “rumors” I guess is the best way to put it about very very few 66 half tons with a turbo 400 but I haven’t been able to find out a for sure answer on if it was a real option for a half ton pickup. Although I’ve seen info of them in 3/4 ton and up trucks. Almost bought an optioned out 66 that claimed to have the original turbo 400 in it but the guy would never give me any transmission numbers or info or even pictures of it.

Clyde65 12-30-2019 10:15 AM

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There was a Hydromatic 400, with weird shift placements

PGSigns 12-30-2019 10:30 AM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
I have seen some vehicles in the past that look like they were titled based off the MSO date of manufacture for what ever reason when they were sold. This may be one of them.
Jimmy

Robert Haas 12-30-2019 10:44 AM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 63burban (Post 8650201)
Could simply be a mis-print on the title or more likely the truck was in an accident at one time and repaired with 66 fenders and cowl extensions.


Truck has never so much as had a shopping cart roll into it.

I shot this video the first week I had it.
Put it up on my lift and you can see for your self how unblemished this truck is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21BxnsFLXFA&t=69s

Robert Haas 12-30-2019 10:47 AM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by b454rat (Post 8650656)
Does it have a th350? I thought 66 was the first year for it...

Truck has 3 speed manual column shift

sstock 12-30-2019 11:34 AM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
Fantastic condition, do a vid on the inside of the cab and engine/bed too. We love this stuff.
Steve

GMCNUT 12-30-2019 11:44 AM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
in many states vehicles got titled as the year sold vs the actual year model. This is most likely a 66 truck titled as a 65 because it was bought in the Fall of 65 when the new 66's hit the lots. Not sure what difference it makes in the first place but if the DMV won't change it, then you'll just have to live with it

Robert Haas 12-30-2019 11:59 AM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sstock (Post 8651204)
Fantastic condition, do a vid on the inside of the cab and engine/bed too. We love this stuff.
Steve

Here you go

walk around, engine and start up

closer look

The Rocknrod 12-30-2019 12:00 PM

Re: Titles and reality. 1966 C10
 
The reason I said to find a vehicle verifyer is that he can fill out a form stating a VIN correction and the DMV will correct the VIN.
I have done it. I also had a 40 Ford Coupe I owned that needed it done.
Some car dealerships have a guy licensed as such.


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