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HOGDADDY 12-21-2021 10:00 PM

Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Anyone have any tips to get the horn working with this aftermarket steering wheel on my 86 Scottsdale? Thanks in advance.

mongocanfly 12-22-2021 09:03 AM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Did you contact their tech line?

HOGDADDY 12-22-2021 11:52 AM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mongocanfly (Post 9009702)
Did you contact their tech line?

Yes no help.

kwmech 12-22-2021 12:22 PM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Tell them you're sending it back and want a full refund including your shipping it back to them

mongocanfly 12-22-2021 01:16 PM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Yeah..what kw said
..is there a horn button on the wheel? Or are you trying to ad one?
All a horn button does is completes the ground circuit to the horn..

hatzie 12-22-2021 01:35 PM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Actually it completes a ground to the coil on your horn relay.
If you ran the full amperage through the horn button it would burn it up.

HOGDADDY 12-22-2021 02:39 PM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hatzie (Post 9009793)
Actually it completes a ground to the coil on your horn relay.
If you ran the full amperage through the horn button it would burn it up.

The horn relay coil looks fine I don't why I can't get the horn to work. I don't believe the new horn button is the issue.

kwmech 12-22-2021 09:03 PM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Try grounding the column with a jumper wire and see if that works

4u2nv 12-22-2021 09:17 PM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
I used their horn replacement kit $10 on my 87 and all went well , you using their kit ???

HOGDADDY 12-22-2021 09:23 PM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4u2nv (Post 9009981)
I used their horn replacement kit $10 on my 87 and all went well , you using their kit ???

Yes it came with the new wheel. The horn was working before I removed column, repacked bearings, new switches etc..

I did soak shift tube in Evaporust and paint it but that shouldn't make any difference.
Screw it I can live w/o the horn til I can figure it out later.

layinrocker65 12-23-2021 12:25 AM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HOGDADDY (Post 9009813)
The horn relay coil looks fine I don't why I can't get the horn to work. I don't believe the new horn button is the issue.

It’s pretty simple to diagnose and if you don’t believe the horn button is the issue, why are you eluding to forever sharp or their customer service being the issue?

HOGDADDY 12-23-2021 04:29 AM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by layinrocker65 (Post 9010074)
It’s pretty simple to diagnose and if you don’t believe the horn button is the issue, why are you eluding to forever sharp or their customer service being the issue?

Because the horn was working previously so I know the horns are fine so I assumed that was the problem. When I touch both wires together I get no sound as suggested by FS so definitely not the horn button... and the fuse is good.
What would you suggest I check first?

TKCR 12-23-2021 10:11 AM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
I have the Forever Sharp wheel and horn button, all that stuff. Mine works. But that’s beside the point.
If it were me and I had this issue, I know it sounds like a lot of work, but I would take all that off and put the original parts back on and see if the horn starts working again. That’s just how I work out electrical issues, lol. I’m not the best electrical trouble shooter but it makes since to me, that if you put the old parts back on and the horn still doesn’t work, then it’s not the FS causing the issue. Something got knocked loose or cut. I know that’s not the best analogy of trouble shooting, but it’s what I would do. At least I would feel I would know what direction to go at this point.
There are also videos on changing the wheel out and it covers the horn. I watch them when I swapped mine out, because I had no clue what I was doing. So I rely on the videos to help me along on my truck.

HOGDADDY 12-23-2021 10:14 AM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TKCR (Post 9010164)
I have the Forever Sharp wheel and horn button, all that stuff. Mine works. But that’s beside the point.
If it were me and I had this issue, I know it sounds like a lot of work, but I would take all that off and put the original parts back on and see if the horn starts working again. That’s just how I work out electrical issues, lol. I’m not the best electrical trouble shooter but it makes since to me, that if you put the old parts back on and the horn still doesn’t work, then it’s not the FS causing the issue. Something got knocked loose or cut. I know that’s not the best analogy of trouble shooting, but it’s what I would do. At least I would feel I would know what direction to go at this point.
There are also videos on changing the wheel out and it covers the horn. I watch them when I swapped mine out, because I had no clue what I was doing. So I rely on the videos to help me along on my truck.

I watched all the videos beforehand and after. I did everything right but something obviously is wrong.

Greenlee 12-23-2021 10:34 AM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Maybe check the stuff you painted and see if that created some kind of ground issue. I was pulling my hair out one time getting my tail lights working right after replacing the wood in a step side bed. It turned out that a simple ground strap from the frame to bed fixed all my problems. Somehow by replacing the wood I lost ground.

mongocanfly 12-23-2021 11:00 AM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Something somewhere, I'm assuming ,in the ground circuit isnt making contact ...if your fuse is good..
Might need to check the column plugs

hatzie 12-23-2021 11:57 AM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
The Horn button depends on the body of the steering column to be grounded.
The horn relay gets battery voltage all the time.
The wire from the horn button makes contact with the grounded steering column body to ground the horn relay coil. This closes the horn relay contacts to make the horn wire from the relay to the engine bay hot. This blows the horn.

Try grounding the horn terminal on the Delphi Pak Con harmonica plug on your column.
If the horn blows then your problem is in the column.
If it doesn't blow then it's time to check the horn relay, fuse, and the wiring to the engine compartment.

Painting stuff that was originally bare metal could cause electrical issues.

HOGDADDY 12-23-2021 01:24 PM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
OK I believe I have it figured out and will report back when I get a chance to correct it.

TKCR 12-23-2021 04:16 PM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HOGDADDY (Post 9010231)
OK I believe I have it figured out and will report back when I get a chance to correct it.

Hopefully it was an easy fix

HOGDADDY 01-13-2022 07:02 PM

Re: Forever Sharp Horn issues
 
As promised here is the results. Firstly, I should have taken more pics on the teardown but somehow, I had installed the upper bearing in from the top when it went in the bottom side of collar.
I totally disassembled the steering column and repacked bearings. and as a bonus, installed a Borgeson intermediate steering shaft to boot.
Everything was right afterwards and yes, the horn works! :b69:

And as a bonus, installed a NEW Borgeson intermediate steering shaft to boot.


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