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too much stuff 10-17-2022 08:09 PM

Was being a GMC an option???
 
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Steeveedee 10-17-2022 08:22 PM

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General Motors Corporation?
Garage Man's Companion?

What's Z86, again?

68bowtie 10-17-2022 10:27 PM

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Give Me Chevy!

Steeveedee 10-17-2022 11:17 PM

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It would be interesting to see the rest of the vehicle...

'68OrangeSunshine 10-18-2022 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Steeveedee (Post 9134999)
General Motors Corporation?
Garage Man's Companion?

What's Z86, again?

Government
Model
Chevrolet

:gmc2:

Looking at the VIN on the SPID, it's a C/50 with a 174'' wheelbase.

special-K 10-18-2022 08:38 AM

Re: Was being a GMC an option???
 
Get More Cash?

I don't see it as GMC since there are periods typed between each letter, I figure, to distinguish from GMC

MJN 10-18-2022 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Steeveedee (Post 9134999)
General Motors Corporation?
Garage Man's Companion?

What's Z86, again?

I show Z86 as Heavy Duty, 22000# GVW

Z88 is the RPO for GMC Conversion

Keith Seymore 10-18-2022 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by too much stuff (Post 9134992)
Was being a GMC an option???

Yep.

K

Gary 70 Jimmy 10-18-2022 12:14 PM

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Is that a 174" wheel base.

Accelo 10-18-2022 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeveedee (Post 9134999)
General Motors Corporation?
Garage Man's Companion?

Got Mechanic Coming

Steeveedee 10-18-2022 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary 70 Jimmy (Post 9135255)
Is that a 174" wheel base.

Yes. It's also "incomplete vehicle certification label", so was possibly going to be a bus or something like that.

special-K 10-18-2022 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Accelo (Post 9135316)
Got Mechanic Coming

Greatest Machine Created :cool:

too much stuff 10-18-2022 11:03 PM

Re: Was being a GMC an option???
 
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Originally Posted by Keith Seymore (Post 9135251)
Yep.

K

Can you expand on that?
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Originally Posted by Steeveedee (Post 9135339)
Yes. It's also "incomplete vehicle certification label", so was possibly going to be a bus or something like that.

This one had a fuel tank on back.

special-K 10-19-2022 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by too much stuff (Post 9135437)
Can you expand on that?

This one had a fuel tank on back.

I'd like to know more on GMC being an option, too.

This is a medium duty cab & chassis and the 174" wheelbase is just a normal WB offered. It's only 15" longer than a 157" WB C/30

MJN 10-19-2022 09:59 AM

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Based on the model number it was just a cab/chassis- an upfitter would put on a dump bed or tanker on the back.
CE56803=
C = conventional cab (S for school bus chassis, T for tilt cab)
E = V8
5= C50 series
68= 108" cab to axle (this would be '18' if it was a Chevy)
03= cab except full air brakes

Keith Seymore 10-19-2022 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by too much stuff (Post 9135437)
Can you expand on that?

Sure.

The model code is not "nameplate" specific; ie C10703 or K30943 doesn't tell the operator what brand vehicle it is.

RPO Z88 is the "nameplate conversion" option that specifies that everybody needs to put GMC emblems on the truck.

Similarly, there is a "Chevrolet nameplate conversion" option (I wanna say X88) and, in later years, a Cadillac RPO (aka Z75).

All these trucks were run down the same line.


K

57taskforce 10-19-2022 02:25 PM

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Awesome info Keith. Learn something new every day.

too much stuff 10-19-2022 10:14 PM

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Thanks keith.

special-K 10-27-2022 08:13 AM

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Ok, so if I understood that right, both Chevy and GMC were options since both brands were identified as one truck line. It was more like a selection than an option. You HAD TO select one or the other. There was no going without it like with an option. Like paint color, you get choices but paint is not an option, it's a selection

Keith Seymore 10-27-2022 09:29 AM

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You could think of it that way, but they were called "options" (ie, RPOs) nonetheless.

In some cases if you didn't choose there was a default option. For example, if you didn't choose a color then you got the tan exterior picked for you.

Maybe powertrain is a better example. There was a base engine, a base transmission, and a base rear axle. If you didn't choose anything then you got the base powertrain combination, but each of those was still defined by an RPO.

Additionally - everything had to balance out when the Engineering Specifications group ran their "cross balance" report to make sure all the combinations were covered.

So for every option there had to be a contrasting "negative option" to balance it out, enabling Specs to run their computer generated report and ensure there was a part number created to cover all the proliferation of option combinations.

K

Keith Seymore 10-27-2022 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by special-K (Post 9137876)
Ok, so if I understood that right, both Chevy and GMC were options since both brands were identified as one truck line. It was more like a selection than an option. You HAD TO select one or the other. There was no going without it like with an option. Like paint color, you get choices but paint is not an option, it's a selection

It's a required selection that's formally called an "option".

I guess.

(lol)

Steeveedee 10-27-2022 10:21 AM

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I recall seeing that one could buy a vehicle in primer. That was in '71. Not sure why someone would do that, since it would be really difficult to get everything painted after the vehicle was assembled.

special-K 10-27-2022 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith Seymore (Post 9137900)
It's a required selection that's formally called an "option".

I guess.

(lol)

Thanks for letting me pick your brain on that. I may put them as selections in my mind to make it work for me, but I like learning how it actually was for GM and why. Keep it simple and clear. Not trying to write a novel :lol:
Mom says I've always been curious

Ol Blue K20 10-27-2022 11:10 AM

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:metal:Really good info Keith, learned something new!

Keith Seymore 10-27-2022 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeveedee (Post 9137918)
I recall seeing that one could buy a vehicle in primer. That was in '71. Not sure why someone would do that, since it would be really difficult to get everything painted after the vehicle was assembled.

So you could have it painted in a color not normally available. If you owned your own company and wanted to paint it Petty blue, or whatever.

Back in the day - the mass production body work on a Corvette was so bad that you could not order a black car from the factory.

You could, then, get a primered car and have the prep work done and painted black after the fact.

K


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