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07-29-2024, 07:52 PM | #26 |
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Shifter
Figured I could make a new shifter out of an old 4-speed shifter I picked up. Took a look at a few Hurst shifter models for ideas.
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Kitsbeach (Ken) 1967 C10 LWB (now SWB) Fleetside 6cyl Saginaw three-on-the-tree "No Frills" 1980 C20 Long to short & static drop "Square One" |
07-29-2024, 07:57 PM | #27 |
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Crossmember
By the way the SM465 4-speed crossmember is different than the TH350 crossmember that would have fit my saginaw perfectly.
I didn't remember to take pictures but was just barely able to get the crossmember moved forward enough to attach my trans mount. I was too impatient to stop and go find the right crossmember, but that would have been the better way to go. Next time I'm under the truck I'll get a picture and try to post it in here.
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07-29-2024, 08:01 PM | #28 |
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TH350 Crossmember
This is what the TH350 crossmember looks like in my other truck (1977 C20). This would fit a saginaw or a muncie 4-speed or T10.
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07-29-2024, 08:06 PM | #29 |
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High hump and shifter boot
I had to bend up my shifter boot frame to fit the awkward position at the back of the high hump.
I just went slowly with the vice grips and screwed it in place as I went and it worked out quit nice. These are actually double layer shift boots, which should be quieter, but I don't know if I have the patience to bend up the second layer and I'm missing the second boot anyway although I have the frame.
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07-29-2024, 08:10 PM | #30 |
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High hump and shifter boot
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07-29-2024, 08:19 PM | #31 |
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Driving
Driving it today. Shifts nice.
One thing I will say is that this Saginaw was from a 6-cylinder and has a very low first gear. The V8 version with a milder first gear would be a closer ratio and a milder jump. Also this motor, while strong, has the small 1.72 intake valves, so it doesn't like to rev. The combination makes it a pretty slow speed cruiser. I'm deciding how much I want to spend on this thing but, if I get into it more, might swap on some small chamber 1.94 heads. Of course then I might think about an overdrive trans like a TKX/TKO600/T56 and on and on it goes.... Here's today's pics
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07-29-2024, 08:21 PM | #32 |
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Dent
That dent in the front is bugging me more than it used to. Its right on a crease so it might be hard to get out. Maybe I can find somebody with some actual skills to give it a try.
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07-30-2024, 08:44 AM | #33 |
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Re: 3/4 Ton Long to Short & Static Drop Square One
Truck is looking good. Unfortunately that dent/wrinkle on the body line will be a doozy to make it look right.
Leaving this as a patina-ish build? |
07-30-2024, 10:25 AM | #34 |
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Re: 3/4 Ton Long to Short & Static Drop Square One
Fix the front fender, and you'll have to fix the bed crease....fix the bed crease, and then the door ding will need attention, fix that and....
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Re: 3/4 Ton Long to Short & Static Drop Square One
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The reason I couldn't help buying it was because it had great patina and no rust through. It has one cab mount that is in need of attention and I will do that. It came with no bed so the colour match and patina on the back is "faux".
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Yesterday, 09:29 PM | #36 |
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Re: 3/4 Ton Long to Short & Static Drop Square One
You know it.!
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Yesterday, 09:47 PM | #37 |
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C-notch
Here is the c-notch I bought from Switch Suspension
I'm very happy with the guys at Switch Suspension. I bought the full 6/8 drop kit, minus the front spindles which were unavailable from Western Chassis at the time. There were a few hiccups during the install and when I phoned I usually talked to Edgar, and he always knew exactly what I was talking about like C20 differences. There were a few problems with some of the parts but we found work arounds (more on that later). I was NOT very happy with Western Chassis. I needed the C20 drop spindles and, at the time I was ordering (Dec 2023), Western Chassis were the only ones making them. I ordered them and they charged my credit card (most places don't charge until parts are shipped) and then I began the wait. First they were supposed to arrive in January, then February, then in March I was told they had arrived and just needed to be unpacked and sent to me. Then in late March I phoned again and they said I was on the backorder list again. They didn't have enough to fill my order! Doesn't Western know how many are on backorder and how many were coming in?
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Yesterday, 10:03 PM | #38 |
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c-notch
Install of notch went well.
My frame had a perfect alignment hole (which I double checked by measuring from the front spring hanger because the front hanger distance doesn't change vs rear shackles do move). I made a paper template then drilled the corners before I started cutting the frame. The best feature of the Switch suspension notch is this little pointer to help line up the final fit. After many test fits and much grinding to perfection she was in place.
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Yesterday, 10:13 PM | #39 |
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Flip kit
I'll post up the flip kit install next.
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