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Old 09-08-2024, 09:01 PM   #1
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Heater Fan doesn't blow on low

A/C cab fan motor doesn't blow on low at all. Will blow on medium sometimes and will blow on high always. Where should I start?
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Old 09-08-2024, 09:15 PM   #2
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A/C cab fan motor doesn't blow on low at all. Will blow on medium sometimes and will blow on high always. Where should I start?
The resistor in the ducting, fan switch and connector on fan switch.
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Old 09-08-2024, 09:37 PM   #3
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The resistor in the ducting, fan switch and connector on fan switch.
Where is the resistor in the ducting? Fan works just not on all speeds. Connector looks good.
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Old 09-08-2024, 10:11 PM   #4
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Re: Heater Fan doesn't blow on low

In the heater core box attached to the firewall inside the cab. Here the box is shown removed and upside down while I was working on it. There is a little door through which you can peek at the resistor board, but to get real access you need to take more apart.
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In the heater core box attached to the firewall inside the cab. Here the box is shown removed and upside down while I was working on it. There is a little door through which you can peek at the resistor board, but to get real access you need to take more apart.
Is that part serviceable? Is there a modification/work around to eliminate the resistor altogether?
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Old 09-08-2024, 10:57 PM   #6
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What dmjlambert said. In his provided pic you can see two screws, They hold the "S" duct adapter in place. Remove those screws and the ones securing the "S" duct to have access. Not real difficult. The resistor is available at many vendors, here is one of my go to places https://classicparts.com/1964-72-a-c...-w-factory-air
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Old 09-08-2024, 11:07 PM   #7
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What dmjlambert said. In his provided pic you can see two screws, They hold the "S" duct adapter in place. Remove those screws and the ones securing the "S" duct to have access. Not real difficult. The resistor is available at many vendors, here is one of my go to places https://classicparts.com/1964-72-a-c...-w-factory-air
I see the two screws is there a schematic I can't quite picture where its at and how it's oriented with that single pic.
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I see the two screws is there a schematic I can't quite picture where its at and how it's oriented with that single pic.
Look at the heat outlet on the floor above the transmission hump. Left to right- Heat outlet, "S" duct then the fitting screwed the the box shown. As mentioned, pic shows box upside down.
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I see the two screws is there a schematic I can't quite picture where its at and how it's oriented with that single pic.
Before you start digging around in the heater case, read Richard's post #2 again.. Check the heater switch and/or the plug connecting the wires to it.. Not only a bad resistor, but also a bad switch or corroded/loose connection will cause the symptoms you describe..
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Old 09-09-2024, 12:55 PM   #10
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Before you start digging around in the heater case, read Richard's post #2 again.. Check the heater switch and/or the plug connecting the wires to it.. Not only a bad resistor, but also a bad switch or corroded/loose connection will cause the symptoms you describe..
Good point. Mine would work on random speeds whatever it felt like doing that day. Removed the original switch and the contacts had what appeared to be old lube or something built up around the contacts. Kind of looked like ear wax. Changed switch and cleaned connector with electrical contact cleaner and it works like it should. I'd start in the switch/connector area
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Re: Heater Fan doesn't blow on low

It's also possible the AC fan relay is causing problems.

Here are some threads to help.
First has some good tests for components

https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=848097

This one is a great discussion on how the AC fan circuit works along with a wiring schematic.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=813743

And one more.

https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=731399
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It's also possible the AC fan relay is causing problems.

Here are some threads to help.
First has some good tests for components

https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=848097

This one is a great discussion on how the AC fan circuit works along with a wiring schematic.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=813743

And one more.

https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=731399
A/C fan relay just provides a direct 12v to fan in the high speed mode. Would not cause this, if bad no high speed. I would bet a dollar it is the resistor if nothing obvious at fan switch. 50+ years on a part can cause problems. Just changed the resistor in my friends 67 Chevelle with A/C, same part. All is good now.
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A/C fan relay just provides a direct 12v to fan in the high speed mode. Would not cause this, if bad no high speed. .
The A/C relay supplies 12dc power to the blower in high speed from a different power source in order to prevent arc damage to the switch from switching the higher amperage (Compared to a non-A/C blower motor) A/C blower. But in addition when the A/C relay is deenergized in low speed and medium speed, voltage from the switch through the resistor is routed through the A/C relay's normally closed contacts to the blower motor.

When you have intermittent problems the likely suspects are switches and relays. In the OP's case we shouldn't assume there is only one problem. It is quite likely the failure of the low speed is caused by the resistor especially if all the wiring harness is undamaged. But the intermittent medium speed problem could be caused by bad contacts inside the A/C relay.

Just my opinion which with a sawbuck will get you a cup of Joe in most places.
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Re: Heater Fan doesn't blow on low

I would also tend to at least take a hard look at the relay. I have replaced a whole bunch more relays than resistors over the years in a wide variety of GM cars and trucks.
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The A/C relay supplies 12dc power to the blower in high speed from a different power source in order to prevent arc damage to the switch from switching the higher amperage (Compared to a non-A/C blower motor) A/C blower. But in addition when the A/C relay is deenergized in low speed and medium speed, voltage from the switch through the resistor is routed through the A/C relay's normally closed contacts to the blower motor.

When you have intermittent problems the likely suspects are switches and relays. In the OP's case we shouldn't assume there is only one problem. It is quite likely the failure of the low speed is caused by the resistor especially if all the wiring harness is undamaged. But the intermittent medium speed problem could be caused by bad contacts inside the A/C relay.

Just my opinion which with a sawbuck will get you a cup of Joe in most places.
A N/C contact does not exist in the relay. It is a SPST relay (single pole, single throw) When static no current flow is allowed, when energized the contacts close. In this case the relay only closes when switch is in high speed. There are 3 terminals present on the A/C fan relay. One on each side of the N/O contact, one side typically connects to the cigarette lighter circuit and the other ties into the feed to fan. Yes, the wires from the resistor also connect to the fan feed. But power does not back feed through the resistor. It cannot do that if the fan switch is in the high position. Also the power cannot feed through the relay in the lower speeds as the connection there is N/O.
The third terminal on the relay is the positive side of the energizing coil which connects to the high speed terminal at fan switch. Power only flows through this wire if switch is in high position. The negative side of the coil grounds through the relay case. Just trying to provide help for understanding of how the circuit works.
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