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grinch4om · 06-23-2010, 09:10 AM

A friend of mine just picked up a dodge pick up, old squarish body...90?, the truck is beat to death but the cummins turbo engine and the manual tranny is super! Man! that would be so much fun in one of our trucks...like a dually or the like..he's selling but alas, no funds or time for me...

72freak · 06-23-2010, 11:39 AM

Its a very common swap....beef up the frame a bit and you are good to go!

STOCKISH · 06-23-2010, 12:22 PM

PM sent.

*Stitch* · 06-23-2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 1972SuperCheyenne

PM sent.

Nice!!

STOCKISH · 06-23-2010, 02:24 PM

Bwa Ha Ha Ha!

**Dieselwrencher** · 06-23-2010, 02:29 PM

It would be nice if it was a 91.5-93. They are intercooled.

**PRattenbury** · 06-23-2010, 05:34 PM

I've got a 94 Dodge with a Cummins. Whenever I have it together and running (almost never) it's an animal. Definitely awesome engines. Trannies, not so much.

78customdeluxe · 06-23-2010, 08:42 PM

I have one in my crew and I love it. It really made a truck outta it, 20mpg and being able to pull whatever I hook to it. Just wish I didnt hit that deer back in october and had more funds to finish redoin the truck...

**Dieselwrencher** · 06-23-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 78customdeluxe

I have one in my crew and I love it. It really made a truck outta it, 20mpg and being able to pull whatever I hook to it. Just wish I didnt hit that deer back in october and had more funds to finish redoin the truck...

That sucks about the deer. How bad is it?

78customdeluxe · 06-23-2010, 09:28 PM

If you look at my pictures in my link in sig. Its taking so much longer and more money because Ive converted it to 4x4, gettin rid of the rust on the rockers, cab corners, and doors, changing my interior, and I went a different route with the bed, I was going to redo the original dually bed but the big thing I miss about my old truck was the extra space on my flatbed, so I'm going to find, or most likey build a flatbed to suit the truck and my style.

**Dieselwrencher** · 06-23-2010, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRattenbury

I've got a 94 Dodge with a Cummins. Whenever I have it together and running (almost never) it's an animal. Definitely awesome engines. Trannies, not so much.

If you build them right, they are bullet proof. I leave with over 20psi of boost at the line with mine. I have guys sled pulling with over 500hp and built autos. You just have to buy the right parts and make the right mods to get them to live.

**PRattenbury** · 06-23-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

If you build them right, they are bullet proof. I leave with over 20psi of boost at the line with mine. I have guys sled pulling with over 500hp and built autos. You just have to buy the right parts and make the right mods to get them to live.

I have a full billet DTT auto, triple disc converter, billet flex plate. The engine is built to the trees. Balanced lower end, 215 marine pistons with fly cuts, big Scheid cam, ported head, intake cut off and aftermarket one on it with water meth injection and nitrous rail built in. 13mm pump by Industrial Injection. 10 hole injectors, .093 stainless lines, tubular stainless exhaust manifold, 71 mm single turbo by Engineered Diesel, 50mm wastegate, 5" exhaust, Cool Twist intercooler, Road Armor bumpers, blah blah blah. Never really could get on top of the charger. Wrong camshaft, I'm told.

**Dieselwrencher** · 06-23-2010, 09:35 PM

I feel your pain man! Just keep stabbing away at it!

**Dieselwrencher** · 06-23-2010, 10:39 PM

How big of injectors, hole size? And did you have the stall speed changed in the TC? What size exhaust housing? You should be able to spool a 71mm single easily with everything you have done. It will be laggy as you know already, but should light at atleast 2300rpm's I'm guessing with a .90.

**PRattenbury** · 06-24-2010, 07:44 AM

I don't recall the stall speed. I had Stefan send me the triple disc and flex plate while I had the engine torn down. I'd have to do some digging to see if I still have all the messages from Chris at E.D. about the exhaust housing. I've been told the cam is way too big for what I used the truck for (occasional street use). The injectors are probably too big as well. But I had some 6x.018 in there prior to the 10 holers. The 10 holers run better. When I get interested in it again I'll pull the cam out, pull the 13mm pump off and the 10-hole injectors and see about a Hamilton drop-in cam, or maybe a COMP461 deal. Then put in a worked 215 pump and maybe some DDP4 or so injectors. It should run decent then. I went way too crazy with what I have.

**Dieselwrencher** · 06-24-2010, 04:33 PM

We have a couple of Hogue cams running and they seem to work pretty well. Getting them degreed in to where they run the best is the key. we had the first one torn apart a couple times until we got it where we liked it.

**PRattenbury** · 06-24-2010, 05:45 PM

Judging by your sig, I take it you like Cummins over Powerstrokes and Duramax?

**Dieselwrencher** · 06-24-2010, 05:53 PM

Yeah, maybe a little.

I work on them all and just have been messing with cummins the longest. We have one 7.3 PSD and one IDI left. The vette almost got a 6.0 at one point. I'm glad I woke up!

**PRattenbury** · 06-24-2010, 06:07 PM

I had a 07 Dodge Doolie for a while, but when my 12 valve was back in action I got rid of the doolie. Since then I bet I've put maybe 1500 miles on the 12 valve. It's been apart for the majority of the last 2 years.

68longhorn · 06-24-2010, 06:29 PM

Corvette with a diesel? that sounds sweet! I'm a ford tech and I agree on the 6.0 being a mistake. I always wanted a mustang to put a 4bt in.

**PRattenbury** · 06-24-2010, 07:08 PM

I always thought a CJ2A with a 4BT would be da shizz-nizzle.

06-23-2010, 09:10 AM	#1
grinch4om dang its hot Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: frankfort kentucky Posts: 1,349	cummins A friend of mine just picked up a dodge pick up, old squarish body...90?, the truck is beat to death but the cummins turbo engine and the manual tranny is super! Man! that would be so much fun in one of our trucks...like a dually or the like..he's selling but alas, no funds or time for me...

06-23-2010, 11:39 AM	#2
72freak Rottenwood Garage Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 4,321	Re: cummins Its a very common swap....beef up the frame a bit and you are good to go! __________________ 2004 Chevrolet Suburban C1500 2001 Chevrolet 2500HD Crew 6.0 1999 Harley Davidson Electra Glide 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Custom Camper "Dump Truck" 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Suburban "Big Green" 1969 Chevrolet C-50 Wedge Hauler "Leonidis" 1966 C-10 2x4 short fleet 327 4 speed "Race Truck" 1952 Plymouth Cranbrook "Rican" (my grandfathers) 1931 Ford Model A Coupe "Black Beauty" 1930 Ford Model A truck "Club Cab" 4x4 Rottenwood Garage and Speed Shop.....where everything must be racy! *It's not just a hobby..It's a LIFESTYLE!!!* Thanks for nothing Barrett-Jackson You cant fix stupid or teach accountability! Time wasters, looky Lous and tire kickers are everywhere!

06-23-2010, 12:22 PM	#3
STOCKISH Formerly- 1972SuperCheyenne Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wake Forest NC Posts: 5,782	Re: cummins PM sent. __________________ --Josh My Build Thread:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=799218 A good crossthread is better than Loctite any day. Life is not about what you have, but who you have to share it with.

06-23-2010, 02:24 PM	#5
STOCKISH Formerly- 1972SuperCheyenne Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wake Forest NC Posts: 5,782	Re: cummins Bwa Ha Ha Ha! __________________ --Josh My Build Thread:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=799218 A good crossthread is better than Loctite any day. Life is not about what you have, but who you have to share it with.

06-23-2010, 02:29 PM	#6
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,140	Re: cummins It would be nice if it was a 91.5-93. They are intercooled. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

06-23-2010, 05:34 PM	#7
PRattenbury Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Maumelle, AR Posts: 478	Re: cummins I've got a 94 Dodge with a Cummins. Whenever I have it together and running (almost never) it's an animal. Definitely awesome engines. Trannies, not so much.

06-23-2010, 08:42 PM	#8
78customdeluxe Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Upper Sandusky Ohio Posts: 72	Re: cummins I have one in my crew and I love it. It really made a truck outta it, 20mpg and being able to pull whatever I hook to it. Just wish I didnt hit that deer back in october and had more funds to finish redoin the truck... __________________ 88 Crewcab Dually 5.9 Cummins, 5306 Eaton 6-speed, converted 4x4 w/52's up front, 90 front clip(parting out) 1986 ElCamino (needs motor) 1970 C30(future service truck for my ag-equipment repair business) 1970 CST10(parting out and partial donor for the '70 C30) 2000 GMC 1500 ext cab sb, z71, 5.3 loaded auto

06-23-2010, 09:28 PM	#10
78customdeluxe Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Upper Sandusky Ohio Posts: 72	Re: cummins If you look at my pictures in my link in sig. Its taking so much longer and more money because Ive converted it to 4x4, gettin rid of the rust on the rockers, cab corners, and doors, changing my interior, and I went a different route with the bed, I was going to redo the original dually bed but the big thing I miss about my old truck was the extra space on my flatbed, so I'm going to find, or most likey build a flatbed to suit the truck and my style. __________________ 88 Crewcab Dually 5.9 Cummins, 5306 Eaton 6-speed, converted 4x4 w/52's up front, 90 front clip(parting out) 1986 ElCamino (needs motor) 1970 C30(future service truck for my ag-equipment repair business) 1970 CST10(parting out and partial donor for the '70 C30) 2000 GMC 1500 ext cab sb, z71, 5.3 loaded auto

06-23-2010, 09:35 PM	#13
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,140	Re: cummins I feel your pain man! Just keep stabbing away at it! __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

06-23-2010, 10:39 PM	#14
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,140	Re: cummins How big of injectors, hole size? And did you have the stall speed changed in the TC? What size exhaust housing? You should be able to spool a 71mm single easily with everything you have done. It will be laggy as you know already, but should light at atleast 2300rpm's I'm guessing with a .90. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

06-24-2010, 07:44 AM	#15
PRattenbury Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Maumelle, AR Posts: 478	Re: cummins I don't recall the stall speed. I had Stefan send me the triple disc and flex plate while I had the engine torn down. I'd have to do some digging to see if I still have all the messages from Chris at E.D. about the exhaust housing. I've been told the cam is way too big for what I used the truck for (occasional street use). The injectors are probably too big as well. But I had some 6x.018 in there prior to the 10 holers. The 10 holers run better. When I get interested in it again I'll pull the cam out, pull the 13mm pump off and the 10-hole injectors and see about a Hamilton drop-in cam, or maybe a COMP461 deal. Then put in a worked 215 pump and maybe some DDP4 or so injectors. It should run decent then. I went way too crazy with what I have.

06-24-2010, 04:33 PM	#16
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,140	Re: cummins We have a couple of Hogue cams running and they seem to work pretty well. Getting them degreed in to where they run the best is the key. we had the first one torn apart a couple times until we got it where we liked it. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

06-24-2010, 05:45 PM	#17
PRattenbury Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Maumelle, AR Posts: 478	Re: cummins Judging by your sig, I take it you like Cummins over Powerstrokes and Duramax?

06-24-2010, 05:53 PM	#18
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,140	Re: cummins Yeah, maybe a little. I work on them all and just have been messing with cummins the longest. We have one 7.3 PSD and one IDI left. The vette almost got a 6.0 at one point. I'm glad I woke up! __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

06-24-2010, 06:07 PM	#19
PRattenbury Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Maumelle, AR Posts: 478	Re: cummins I had a 07 Dodge Doolie for a while, but when my 12 valve was back in action I got rid of the doolie. Since then I bet I've put maybe 1500 miles on the 12 valve. It's been apart for the majority of the last 2 years.



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06-24-2010, 06:29 PM	#20
68longhorn Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 1,123	Re: cummins Corvette with a diesel? that sounds sweet! I'm a ford tech and I agree on the 6.0 being a mistake. I always wanted a mustang to put a 4bt in.

06-24-2010, 07:08 PM	#21
PRattenbury Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Maumelle, AR Posts: 478	Re: cummins I always thought a CJ2A with a 4BT would be da shizz-nizzle.

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