Crate Engines

[DeputyDan]

I was looking for a new crate 350 engine for my 72 C-10. I came across a company called phoenix engine that has really good pricing. Has anyone ever dealt with this company? I see mixed reviews when I google them. Anyone know any credible crate engine companies?

[68Stepbed]

What kind of hp do you want? Stock, mild, or wild?

[DeputyDan]

looking for something mild around 330-350hp. Phoenix engine sells a 330hp for around $2900 turn key. I'm a little shocked by the price I didn't think you could get a turn key engine that cheap.

[Lee H]

What do you need or want? Turn key or long block. Warranty? When looking keep in mind that turn key means different things to different builders.

[cdowns]

go to your local GM dealership and see what they will do about price matching what you find online// warrenty is good for a local bought item// some mailorders if you need warrenty work r u prepared to ship to get it worked on??

[clear]

http://www.smedingperformance.com/overstockengines.html these people have gotten pretty good reviews and have a couple motors in the price range you mentioned.

[hotrodhomi]

Originally Posted by clear

http://www.smedingperformance.com/overstockengines.html these people have gotten pretty good reviews and have a couple motors in the price range you mentioned.

I've bought from them and would recommend them, but YearOne has a 400+hp 400+ftlb motor for $3200 shipped. It comes dyno'd. I have one in my garage waiting to go in.

[stich626]

for a 330hp engine I'd look at local shops(machine shops)
for 2900.00 you can get a local built engine and know what your getting..
or go to a local chevy dealer..
cause an all new gm crate is 2800.00 for the 350ho (330hp)

http://sdparts.com/details/gm-perfor...parts/19210007

[Clyde65]

I bet they also come with 3yr/36K warranty too!

[hotrodhomi]

also, the Smeding motor does not come dyno'd or broken in, if you are concerned about that.

[stich626]

I am going big
454 ho 425hp 500 ftlb

[HOGDADDY]

Get a Goodwrench 350 from your GM dealer 260hp for $1500.00 or less and comes with a warranty also. They are decent motors put a different cam in it and some vortec heads get compression up.

[cparman]

The $2800 crate engine from chevy is 330 HP. In a long block form. I own one of those, and LOVE it. When you get it dressed, it is more like $3600 or so. Least that is what I told my wife! That engine idles PERFECT!! smooth as butter, pulls great!

[DeputyDan]

I have to say the year one 400+ looks real tempting. I have been reading nothing but good reviews on them anyone have any experience with them?

[stich626]

Originally Posted by cparman

The $2800 crate engine from chevy is 330 HP. In a long block form. I own one of those, and LOVE it. When you get it dressed, it is more like $3600 or so. Least that is what I told my wife! That engine idles PERFECT!! smooth as butter, pulls great!

dressing it doesn't cost much IF the truck has a v8 now, as you can use the parts off the old, but the intake, if this one has vortec heads,
so 3k will get you the all new parts engine..

if he's going from a 6 then it'll cost more as he'll need brackets for the alt/power stear/etc

[barryvanhook]

My Smeding motor just arrived this afternoon ... and it does come dyno'd and run in. This past summer they had some special models that weren't dyno'd or broken in, and they currently seem to be out of the 350 ci business. Mine is their new 383 Touring EFI It was advertised at 370 hp and 430 torque, but actually came in at 419 hp and 465.3 torque, according to the dyno sheet. And the motor is beautiful!! Can't wait to get it all buttoned up. 3 year, unlimited mileage warranty. The neat thing was they had introductory pricing on this efi motor right now.

Barry

[HOGDADDY]

Originally Posted by barryvanhook

My Smeding motor just arrived this afternoon ... and it does come dyno'd and run in. This past summer they had some special models that weren't dyno'd or broken in, and they currently seem to be out of the 350 ci business. Mine is their new 383 Touring EFI It was advertised at 370 hp and 430 torque, but actually came in at 419 hp and 465.3 torque, according to the dyno sheet. And the motor is beautiful!! Can't wait to get it all buttoned up. 3 year, unlimited mileage warranty. The neat thing was they had introductory pricing on this efi motor right now.

Barry

I got some plain valve cover's similar to those from Summit for around $50 and had local shop drill a hole for old an style Chevy rubber oil plug.

[DeputyDan]

I've got about $4500 to play with but need to do it all with that $4500.

[cparman]

go to Pace Performance web site and click on crate engines. They have all of the GM crate engines, and they offer them naked or dressed

Originally Posted by DDixon1000

I've got about $4500 to play with but need to do it all with that $4500.

[red71cheyenne]

Originally Posted by barryvanhook

My Smeding motor just arrived this afternoon ... and it does come dyno'd and run in. This past summer they had some special models that weren't dyno'd or broken in, and they currently seem to be out of the 350 ci business. Mine is their new 383 Touring EFI It was advertised at 370 hp and 430 torque, but actually came in at 419 hp and 465.3 torque, according to the dyno sheet. And the motor is beautiful!! Can't wait to get it all buttoned up. 3 year, unlimited mileage warranty. The neat thing was they had introductory pricing on this efi motor right now.

Barry

That is a good looking engine!! How much did that set you back?

[barryvanhook]

Originally Posted by red71cheyenne

That is a good looking engine!! How much did that set you back?

The prices are on the Smeding site ... http://smedingperformance.com/chevy3...ouringEFI.html

I still got it at the introductory price ... add $200 for shipping.

It's a bunch of $$$, but when you add on the aluminum heads, World Products intake, and the Accel efi system (DFI Thruster) it's pretty fairly priced, I think.

Barry

[repeeler]

Originally Posted by barryvanhook

My Smeding motor just arrived this afternoon ... and it does come dyno'd and run in. This past summer they had some special models that weren't dyno'd or broken in, and they currently seem to be out of the 350 ci business. Mine is their new 383 Touring EFI It was advertised at 370 hp and 430 torque, but actually came in at 419 hp and 465.3 torque, according to the dyno sheet. And the motor is beautiful!! Can't wait to get it all buttoned up. 3 year, unlimited mileage warranty. The neat thing was they had introductory pricing on this efi motor right now.

Barry

Did this come with any kind of engine management system? Thinking about going this route also and was wondering what is requred to get this to work in these older trucks.

[barryvanhook]

Originally Posted by repeeler

Did this come with any kind of engine management system? Thinking about going this route also and was wondering what is requred to get this to work in these older trucks.

Hi Ray ... came with the complete Accel system: computer, plug-n-play harness, O2 sensor, World intake with throttle body and linkage, fuel rails and 24# multipoint injectors installed, distributor installed (with instructions not to frak w/it), etc.

Of course you need an efi fuel system w/return ... I had to add a return line to my aluminum rear tank as well as provide the fuel lines to and from. They provided an electric pump. My old dizzy was hei, so I now have to provide a coil. I wasn't going to screw with things by trying to substitute my old HEI.

It seems to be pretty complete as of this time, with the exception of the above noted items. More stuff will probably come up as the install progresses .... it always happens that way.

Not sure how much longer their introductory deal will be running.

Barry

[repeeler]

Originally Posted by barryvanhook

Hi Ray ... came with the complete Accel system: computer, plug-n-play harness, O2 sensor, World intake with throttle body and linkage, fuel rails and 24# multipoint injectors installed, distributor installed (with instructions not to frak w/it), etc.

Of course you need an efi fuel system w/return ... I had to add a return line to my aluminum rear tank as well as provide the fuel lines to and from. They provided an electric pump. My old dizzy was hei, so I now have to provide a coil. I wasn't going to screw with things by trying to substitute my old HEI.

It seems to be pretty complete as of this time, with the exception of the above noted items. More stuff will probably come up as the install progresses .... it always happens that way.

Not sure how much longer their introductory deal will be running.

Barry

I ordered one! They are giving free shipping since I am only a few hundred miles north. But since I am in Texas I will have to pay sales tax so it is a wash! Now to decide if I should stick with the Turbo 350 tranny or go with soemthing newer. Also wondering if I can use my stock tank with this. Guess I have a bit of research ahead of me!

[stich626]

just remember, these engines are flat tappet cams..
you MUST use napa or comp cams break in additive or break in oil. as todays oil doesn't have enough zinc in it anymore..
you also should use the additive for every oil change...with normal oil after the break in..
read up on cam break in.. you must follow the steps and use the correct oil. or you'll chance a flattened lobe..
it's easy to break in the cam.. but helps to have friends around to watch for leaks as your working the engine rpm and another watching a gauges..
comp cams has a nice write up on this