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jiggs · 11-23-2004, 10:22 PM

This close up is of the back window in an ebay action.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

The question I have is how is the back window rubber gasket deleted? It looks to me like the glass is urethaned in with a narrow rubber trim, similar to what new vehicles use. There is more involed in the mod than that, I'm sure. The pinchweld is not large enough to accept the urethane needed, and the glass is too small to just set in the opening. Can someone explain? It also looks like the windshield has the same treatment. I want to do this, and would like to know the correct way of doing it.

LONGHAIR · 11-23-2004, 10:32 PM

Judging by the height of the glass, it's a chopped top truck anyway. So there could be lots of modifications going on there.

**N2TRUX** · 11-23-2004, 10:55 PM

Longhair is correct. Who else could spot a chopped top so quick. The top on that truck has been chopped. The window channel was modded to accept the flush fit glass....

*Shane* · 11-23-2004, 11:31 PM

back window looks like a flush mount ... but the front window looks like a normal gasket to me.

**N2TRUX** · 11-24-2004, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Shane

back window looks like a flush mount ... but the front window looks like a normal gasket to me.

I think you are correct. It looked flush at first glance, but after looking at the other pics I think that is a rubber gasket...

GreyHoundSteve · 11-24-2004, 10:21 AM

Yeah that back window looks trick. I also like the 3rd brake light. Does anyone know where i can find one of those but with a clear lense?

nitor · 11-25-2004, 11:46 AM

I'm not a flame kinda guy, but those look really cool.

**StingRay** · 11-24-2004, 12:27 AM

Tyler you're still lurking around here. Hows that cab stretch coming along?

jiggs · 11-24-2004, 12:47 AM

Ray, I'm still here. I would like to post answers more often, but by the time I get to the computer, someone has already given my answer, or the answer I am looking for is here already. I'm here quite a bit.

The strech has came back to life after a long pause, but is really no further ahead then when you saw my pics. Now I want to add this to the mix. I have my ideas on how to do it, but would like the opinion of someone who has seen/done it. All I have is mag pics as a reference. Maybe even just an educated guess would give me a different way of attacking it. I guess I am looking for procedure, more than identification. I know it has been modded, but how. That is the million dollar question.

I don't want to screw it up and have to throw away the work I have done. This has to be right on, because I don't think there is a way to bend, shrink or massage a windshield and back glass to fit.I've found that out the hard way at work.

**StingRay** · 11-24-2004, 09:45 AM

If I were to guess I'd say he extended the flange around the rear window for extra surface area, cut a new (and bigger to match the opening) rear window from laminated safety glass (ACARA Glass is pretty good at this. Talk to Darryl) and then masked the black pinch weld primer on tha glass to give a nice border on the glass, then he urethaned it in. If you look close at the top edge of the glass it looks like you can see the line along it's edge where the laminations in the glass are. If I was going to try that that's how I'd do it. Are you still working over at Autocolor?

70c10 · 11-25-2004, 12:37 PM

I think those flames look awesome, I wish mine were done in that exact style!

slogo · 11-25-2004, 12:44 PM

love that color

LONGHAIR · 11-25-2004, 12:46 PM

Why would you want a clear lense? You can use a clear one on the back of the vehicle except as a cargo light or back-up light. I doubt if something like that would illuminate well enough for a cargo light.

68gmcdually · 11-25-2004, 05:15 PM

Here is my cargo lamp, looks amazing in my opinion.

GreyHoundSteve · 11-26-2004, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LONGHAIR

Why would you want a clear lense? You can use a clear one on the back of the vehicle except as a cargo light or back-up light. I doubt if something like that would illuminate well enough for a cargo light.

Led's light up any color you want them to (red in this case) and my truck will be painted Silver with clear lenses so it would be pointless to install a red lens on a third brake light because it would defeat the point of clear taillight lenses.

Right now i dont have anything there but i thought an led clear lense 3rd brake light would look trick if i could flush mount it like the guy in the 1st post did.

jiggs · 11-25-2004, 07:35 PM

Slogo, that is a different truck. There are no drip rails on the pic you posted and are on the others. Still a very nice color. Do you have any more pics of that truck, or a link?

Ray, I am still at Autocolor, you should pop by sometime.

meathead95 · 11-26-2004, 02:35 PM

[QUOTE=jiggs]Slogo, that is a different truck. There are no drip rails on the pic you posted and are on the others. Still a very nice color. Do you have any more pics of that truck, or a link?

that truck cab slogo posted is his.

slogo · 11-26-2004, 07:37 PM

Yes it's mine..... just posted cause of the color nice truck. Buy Mine Now 84,000.00 even

what a deal4U
just kidding.....................................

jiggs · 11-26-2004, 08:34 PM

Slogo;

Are you firm on that price?

If you are like the most of us, I think we would have to pry the key away from your cold, dead hands.

slogo · 11-26-2004, 09:34 PM

getting back to your post that is a cool mod it shouldn't be a big deal if you have a good glass man in your area, he can cut the glass to fit the opening. keep in mind that cab has been chopped and glass has to be cut anyways. i would think with a little more planning, same could work for the front as well. you need to ask a experianced glass man about that one.

jamis · 11-25-2004, 07:49 PM

I think the glass is glazed on from the inside as well, look at the glass from within the inside and you will see a black seam around. Any way if its not..... thats the way I would do it if I wanted that look. Just trim up and clean the pinch weld and make a lager peice of glass to be glued on the inside surface of the cab

barn9 · 11-26-2004, 01:40 PM

You should be able to find these lights and housings at any of several hot rod fabrication sites. I've seen them available, but don't remember where. Some guys use them for tail lights, backup lights, and/or brake lights on their hot rods.

GreyHoundSteve · 11-26-2004, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barn9

You should be able to find these lights and housings at any of several hot rod fabrication sites. I've seen them available, but don't remember where. Some guys use them for tail lights, backup lights, and/or brake lights on their hot rods.

Funny enough but i played around with google for an hour one day and couldnt find any of these. If anyone knows a site please post a link. Also, could someone post a link to the orange truck on ebay. I wanted to look at all the photos again.

724wdcopper · 11-26-2004, 02:23 PM

try picking up a copy of streetrodder. there are lots of vendors that advertize these types of lights.

GreyHoundSteve · 11-26-2004, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 724wdcopper

try picking up a copy of streetrodder. there are lots of vendors that advertize these types of lights.

Thanks, i'll try that.

11-23-2004, 10:22 PM	#1
jiggs poker face Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Posts: 218	A cool and subtle mod This close up is of the back window in an ebay action. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW The question I have is how is the back window rubber gasket deleted? It looks to me like the glass is urethaned in with a narrow rubber trim, similar to what new vehicles use. There is more involed in the mod than that, I'm sure. The pinchweld is not large enough to accept the urethane needed, and the glass is too small to just set in the opening. Can someone explain? It also looks like the windshield has the same treatment. I want to do this, and would like to know the correct way of doing it. Attached Images __________________ If you could kick the person in the *ss responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month.

11-23-2004, 10:55 PM	#3
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,023	Longhair is correct. Who else could spot a chopped top so quick. The top on that truck has been chopped. The window channel was modded to accept the flush fit glass.... __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

11-25-2004, 11:46 AM	#7
nitor Too many projects Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Morrow, OH Posts: 344	I'm not a flame kinda guy, but those look really cool. __________________ Jim '55 Chevrolet Pickup '56 Chevrolet Belair '04 Chevrolet Astro '95 Chevrolet Blazer

11-24-2004, 12:27 AM	#8
StingRay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Saskatoon,SK,Canada Posts: 2,476	Tyler you're still lurking around here. Hows that cab stretch coming along? __________________ Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada

11-24-2004, 12:47 AM	#9
jiggs poker face Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Posts: 218	Ray, I'm still here. I would like to post answers more often, but by the time I get to the computer, someone has already given my answer, or the answer I am looking for is here already. I'm here quite a bit. The strech has came back to life after a long pause, but is really no further ahead then when you saw my pics. Now I want to add this to the mix. I have my ideas on how to do it, but would like the opinion of someone who has seen/done it. All I have is mag pics as a reference. Maybe even just an educated guess would give me a different way of attacking it. I guess I am looking for procedure, more than identification. I know it has been modded, but how. That is the million dollar question. I don't want to screw it up and have to throw away the work I have done. This has to be right on, because I don't think there is a way to bend, shrink or massage a windshield and back glass to fit.I've found that out the hard way at work. __________________ If you could kick the person in the *ss responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month.

11-23-2004, 10:32 PM	#2
LONGHAIR just can't cover up my redneck Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 11,414	Judging by the height of the glass, it's a chopped top truck anyway. So there could be lots of modifications going on there.

11-23-2004, 11:31 PM	#4
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	back window looks like a flush mount ... but the front window looks like a normal gasket to me.

11-24-2004, 10:21 AM	#6
GreyHoundSteve Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: DFW TX Posts: 769	Yeah that back window looks trick. I also like the 3rd brake light. Does anyone know where i can find one of those but with a clear lense?

11-24-2004, 09:45 AM	#10
StingRay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Saskatoon,SK,Canada Posts: 2,476	If I were to guess I'd say he extended the flange around the rear window for extra surface area, cut a new (and bigger to match the opening) rear window from laminated safety glass (ACARA Glass is pretty good at this. Talk to Darryl) and then masked the black pinch weld primer on tha glass to give a nice border on the glass, then he urethaned it in. If you look close at the top edge of the glass it looks like you can see the line along it's edge where the laminations in the glass are. If I was going to try that that's how I'd do it. Are you still working over at Autocolor? __________________ Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Last edited by StingRay; 11-24-2004 at 12:11 PM.

11-25-2004, 12:37 PM	#11
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,857	I think those flames look awesome, I wish mine were done in that exact style! __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

11-25-2004, 12:44 PM	#12
slogo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Morristown,TN Posts: 482	love that color

11-25-2004, 12:46 PM	#13
LONGHAIR just can't cover up my redneck Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 11,414	Why would you want a clear lense? You can use a clear one on the back of the vehicle except as a cargo light or back-up light. I doubt if something like that would illuminate well enough for a cargo light.

11-25-2004, 05:15 PM	#14
68gmcdually Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fenelon Falls, ON Canada Posts: 1,455	Cargo Lamp Here is my cargo lamp, looks amazing in my opinion. Attached Images __________________ James Bellwood 1968 930 Extend-A-Cab Dually 5.7l, 5 speed,

11-25-2004, 07:35 PM	#16
jiggs poker face Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Posts: 218	Slogo, that is a different truck. There are no drip rails on the pic you posted and are on the others. Still a very nice color. Do you have any more pics of that truck, or a link? Ray, I am still at Autocolor, you should pop by sometime. __________________ If you could kick the person in the ss responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month. Last edited by jiggs; 11-25-2004 at 07:37 PM.*

11-26-2004, 02:35 PM	#17
meathead95 computer illiterate Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 6,446	[QUOTE=jiggs]Slogo, that is a different truck. There are no drip rails on the pic you posted and are on the others. Still a very nice color. Do you have any more pics of that truck, or a link? that truck cab slogo posted is his. __________________ 72 2wd blazer 72 swb 4x4



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11-26-2004, 07:37 PM	#18
slogo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Morristown,TN Posts: 482	Yes it's mine..... just posted cause of the color nice truck. Buy Mine Now 84,000.00 even what a deal4U just kidding.....................................

11-26-2004, 08:34 PM	#19
jiggs poker face Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Posts: 218	Slogo; Are you firm on that price? If you are like the most of us, I think we would have to pry the key away from your cold, dead hands. __________________ If you could kick the person in the *ss responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month.

11-26-2004, 09:34 PM	#20
slogo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Morristown,TN Posts: 482	getting back to your post that is a cool mod it shouldn't be a big deal if you have a good glass man in your area, he can cut the glass to fit the opening. keep in mind that cab has been chopped and glass has to be cut anyways. i would think with a little more planning, same could work for the front as well. you need to ask a experianced glass man about that one.

11-25-2004, 07:49 PM	#21
jamis F.A.S.T. president Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 1,883	I think the glass is glazed on from the inside as well, look at the glass from within the inside and you will see a black seam around. Any way if its not..... thats the way I would do it if I wanted that look. Just trim up and clean the pinch weld and make a lager peice of glass to be glued on the inside surface of the cab __________________ F.A.S.T. President and Founder Fabricators for the Advancement of Sawsall Technology "A fear of the Sawsall is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." ~Sigmund Freud, "General Introduction to Psychoanalysis"

11-26-2004, 01:40 PM	#22
barn9 Half a bubble off! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Winfield, Ks, USA Posts: 5,588	You should be able to find these lights and housings at any of several hot rod fabrication sites. I've seen them available, but don't remember where. Some guys use them for tail lights, backup lights, and/or brake lights on their hot rods. __________________ Just call me LB. '71 Cheyenne, 402BB, hauls blondes, brunettes, or redheads.

11-26-2004, 02:23 PM	#24
724wdcopper graphic designer Join Date: May 2004 Location: Spokane, Washington Posts: 841	try picking up a copy of streetrodder. there are lots of vendors that advertize these types of lights.

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