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It's the air up here
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What is the deal with "patina"?
We all know that "patina" is oxidation of non-ferrous metal, such as copper or brass. So why the link to these old trucks as rust? Just a cool name?
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its all about the +6 inches
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
it's a fad started by the magizines. A lot of people have always thought beaters were cool, and same with old school stuff, and rat rod stuff, and now, the latest craze is field rot/barn rot.
IMO, it's even more overused tan the term *rare* *mint* and *survivor* |
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
apparently... I guess its a glam name for the rat rod crowd. I dont get it
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
patina=rust as to me saying, my income is challenging me for finishing my chevrolet build=I am BROKE, Too many bills!!
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its all about the +6 inches
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
rat rods don't need patina, and a patena'd car, isn't a rat rod.
however, they DO commonly go hand in hand. I thought it was kinda interesting untill it spread like wildfire. i'm waiting for the socker moms to call the rust spot on there looser cruiser caravans patina. ![]() |
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
It's easier for me to say than org.paint faded rusty ol' Iowa POS !! I will restore my truck someday but can't afford it right now !!! I think my truck is cool as is . I guess it makes me feel good that other people think its cool also . I don't care what they call it !!! Patina or POS I bet they have second thoughts about it when I stand on It !!!!
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
I liked what Shane said in another thread, "Rust'' and " Patina'' is not the same.
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
do only certain trucks (years, styles, location) do this
and does it actually rust thru. I like it |
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It's the air up here
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Western Colorado
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
It is just a butchering of the english language. Words have meanings. Rust is iron or steel, and patina is nonferous. If we need a cool name then lets create a new one. Not butcher an existing one. One day we wont be able to talk to people out of our click, because they wont undersand the different meanings of the same words.IMO
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
I don't care who you are dat is phat YO
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its all about the +6 inches
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
It's the entire automotive hobby, not just truck guys.
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
I dont really care for rat rods but I do like beaters. Why go to the extreme to make something look like crap (tuna can tail lites & paint thinner can shifter consoles). I dont worry about using correct terms for certain types of vehicles & dont get all worked up if someone likes or doesnt like what I like or dont like. Ive seen enough bagged red short beds to appreciate my beat up old flat black long bed more & more every day. Its what makes the auto field great, if they all looked the same we would be very bored...
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its all about the +6 inches
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
crap... that means I've developed it too.
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
ferrous beuler says what he said mons
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
I like the term Patina, but I'm not all ape about it trying to get one
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
I dated her in high school, haven't seen her since graduation!
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
There are some people in the antique industry that like to see items in their original state. If you have an original 100 yr old piece of furniture, rifle, etc. and you refinish it, it diminishes the value tremendously.
The original paint, body panels, and interiors are desirable to some people. They want to see it in it's naturally aged state. I guess it's like visiting your grandma and find out she was botoxed and had a facelift. Takes away from the "original" state or "patina"... |
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
Naturally aged is one thing. A rusty pile with body panels flapping in the wind is another.
I'm with some others, I don't mind beaters. I'd like to have one sometimes. But if your truck is a beater don't try to pass it off as a "patina" truck to try to make it sound better than it is. So what if its rusted. Drive it and enjoy it anyway.
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
it's a yuppys justifacation for driving a rusty beater. it just sounds better than rust
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
What's sad, is that there are "fully restored" (all metalwork done to perfection) trucks running around with "patina" PAINTED on them. Classic Trucks did a feature on two such trucks not too long ago...
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
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![]() I think that rather than "patina" there ought to be another word like "truck with rustina." Or this truck has been "rustined" for newer trucks that have been patina'ed or patined. ![]() |
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
Patina isn't rust. If it is rusty, it's rusty. Patina is the worn finish of a painted vehicle...or the appearance of a worn finish. To achieve a patina finish, you have to look at the body and see where the paint would wear first. Edges of doors; peaks of body contours, etc. Excessive compounding of the paint will cause the primer to show through the paint.
Hot Rod Magazine did a feature a few years ago to create the look of a barn find on a glass-bodied coupe. They sprayed the body, in specific places, to imitate the wear patterns that would be common. The paint on the body was black. They sprayed some red oxide primer to look like wear in the finish. The added a pin stripe and then "massaged" it too, to look worn. The overall effect was of a paint job that was at least 50 years old and from a barn find of a car.
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Re: What is the deal with "patina"?
Hey ChevLoRay, basically I hear what you're saying but I disagree that Patina isn't rust. Especially as defined by the dictionary.
American Heritage dictionary college edition. Patina: A thin layer of corrosion, usually brown or green, that appears on copper or copper alloys, such as bronze, as a result of natural or artificial oxidation. 2. The sheen produced by age and use on any antique surface. Granted it doesn't say rust. But rust is "oxidation." |
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