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gator2511 · 07-31-2005, 12:38 PM

These were on my truck when I bought it and I'm trying to find out who makes them and where they can be bought. Anybody know?

matthufham · 07-31-2005, 12:45 PM

looks like the american racing wheels you can get at discount tire.

da-burb · 07-31-2005, 01:12 PM

American Racing model AR 136 if my memory serves me correctly.

gator2511 · 07-31-2005, 04:28 PM

It looks a lot like the AR 136 but the center section of my wheels are round and the lug nuts are tight against the center hole. Its a small difference but it doesn't look the same as the wheel on the AMR website.

71swb4x4 · 07-31-2005, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gator2511

It looks a lot like the AR 136 but the center section of my wheels are round and the lug nuts are tight against the center hole. Its a small difference but it doesn't look the same as the wheel on the AMR website.

Don't use the distance from the lug nuts to the center hole as a judge to determine that they are not the AR 136's. If you have a tight bolt pattern the holes will be close, but if you have a more open bolt pattern they will be farther away from the center hole.
Example 5x4.5" will be closer to the center hole than 5x5"

shifty · 07-31-2005, 05:23 PM

It looks like something that Ultra used to make when I was in high school.

gator2511 · 07-31-2005, 06:08 PM

Thats what I'm afraid of shifty. I really love the mags but I have no spare tire and if anything happened to one of them I would be in bad shape. Thats why I'm trying to id them. I removed one of them and cleaned the inside of the wheel. I brushed it with a bronze brush and could not find a manuf. name anywhere. Here is what I found around the inside of the center rim. (1 15x10 , O.W.I. , DOT-T, not to exceed 40 psi, max wheel load not to exceed 1900 lbs) Inside two of the spokes was stamped A8196 and BH1996. I feel like an archeologist trying to I.D. some ancient unkown artifact.

gator2511 · 07-31-2005, 06:13 PM

You have a great point 71swb4x4. Maybe I should go to a local dealer and see if he can help. Thanks.

al's71gmc · 07-31-2005, 09:17 PM

i had the same problem with a gmc safari van a few years ago. i had new tires put on and the tire shop broke one of my wheels (of course they wouldn't admit it). they went ahead and sent my wife home with a 5" by 1/2" chunk missing out of the inside edge. it had the same vague numbers and no brand name. even the dealership where i bought the van new could not identify it. i never did get a matching replacement. good luck but don't hold your breath.

shifty · 07-31-2005, 11:40 PM

I know one of a few companies makes this wheel:

Prime, Ultra, Eagle (American Eagle), American Racing.

I swear it's Prime or Ultra. I can't find anything at either site, probably because it's discontinued. It was really popular around the time thoese damned sawblade rims were big.

Here's something Eagle makes that's damned close:

http://www.aewheel.com/wheels_detail.cfm?id=27

Which is basically the same as the American Eagle Ventura:

http://www.tires-n-parts.com/wheels/...d_ventura.html

NOTE: both of the wheels in the pictures are 5-lugs. I would almost bet that if you'd find a picture of the Eagle Venturas in a 6-lug pattern they'd match what you got.

Rdub · 08-01-2005, 12:09 PM

Ran in to this same problem a year ago..... bought a 41 chev flatbed hotrod that a guy had lost interest in, had a set of "ultras" on the front which I wanted to match.... looked and looked & was told they're not made anymore.... the AR"s are pretty close with exception of how the "spokes" tie in to the rim... the Ultras are straight whereas the AR's have a bit of an angled sweep to them.

gator2511 · 08-02-2005, 09:21 PM

Well I went by an American Racing Wheel dealer today and he said it was definately not his wheel. He said it was probably an old Ultra but they don't make that wheel anymore. So, thanks to all you guys for your help but I guess I'll have to keep looking around and maybe I can turn one up.

CyberRanger · 08-03-2005, 03:14 PM

If you pop the tire off the bead, there should be some identification cast/stamped into the area between the beads. There may also be a part number somewhere on the inside of the rim. Worked in a tire shop while goin' thru school years ago & saw a lot of those markings.

07-31-2005, 12:38 PM	#1
gator2511 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: tampa florida Posts: 776	Anybody know who makes this mag? These were on my truck when I bought it and I'm trying to find out who makes them and where they can be bought. Anybody know?

07-31-2005, 01:12 PM	#3
da-burb "Ochre Ogre" Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Springfield, MN Posts: 3,558	American Racing model AR 136 if my memory serves me correctly. __________________ Bowtie Truck Stop Inc. Mid-West GM Truck Restoration Parts Supplier Your Key Parts, Auto Metal Direct, Dynacorn, and Goodmark dealer. like us @ www.facebook.com/BowtieTruckStop 1971 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1971 K-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 K-20 Suburban (Yellow- that just aint right!) Springfield, Minnesota 56087

07-31-2005, 05:23 PM	#6
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	It looks like something that Ultra used to make when I was in high school. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

07-31-2005, 09:17 PM	#9
al's71gmc 4 eyed fever Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eureka, Nevada Posts: 500	i had the same problem with a gmc safari van a few years ago. i had new tires put on and the tire shop broke one of my wheels (of course they wouldn't admit it). they went ahead and sent my wife home with a 5" by 1/2" chunk missing out of the inside edge. it had the same vague numbers and no brand name. even the dealership where i bought the van new could not identify it. i never did get a matching replacement. good luck but don't hold your breath. __________________ 1971 GMC 2500 4x4 1972 GMC Sierra Grande 1/2 t 4x4-#1 son's truck. Recently completed resto. 4 YO daughter," Daddy, I like your truck better than Mom's." (2000 F350-ranch truck) Smart kid!!

07-31-2005, 11:40 PM	#10
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	I know one of a few companies makes this wheel: Prime, Ultra, Eagle (American Eagle), American Racing. I swear it's Prime or Ultra. I can't find anything at either site, probably because it's discontinued. It was really popular around the time thoese damned sawblade rims were big. Here's something Eagle makes that's damned close: http://www.aewheel.com/wheels_detail.cfm?id=27 Which is basically the same as the American Eagle Ventura: http://www.tires-n-parts.com/wheels/...d_ventura.html NOTE: both of the wheels in the pictures are 5-lugs. I would almost bet that if you'd find a picture of the Eagle Venturas in a 6-lug pattern they'd match what you got. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

07-31-2005, 12:45 PM	#2
matthufham Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Carl Junction, Missouri Posts: 2,061	looks like the american racing wheels you can get at discount tire.

07-31-2005, 04:28 PM	#4
gator2511 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: tampa florida Posts: 776	It looks a lot like the AR 136 but the center section of my wheels are round and the lug nuts are tight against the center hole. Its a small difference but it doesn't look the same as the wheel on the AMR website.

07-31-2005, 06:08 PM	#7
gator2511 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: tampa florida Posts: 776	Thats what I'm afraid of shifty. I really love the mags but I have no spare tire and if anything happened to one of them I would be in bad shape. Thats why I'm trying to id them. I removed one of them and cleaned the inside of the wheel. I brushed it with a bronze brush and could not find a manuf. name anywhere. Here is what I found around the inside of the center rim. (1 15x10 , O.W.I. , DOT-T, not to exceed 40 psi, max wheel load not to exceed 1900 lbs) Inside two of the spokes was stamped A8196 and BH1996. I feel like an archeologist trying to I.D. some ancient unkown artifact.

07-31-2005, 06:13 PM	#8
gator2511 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: tampa florida Posts: 776	You have a great point 71swb4x4. Maybe I should go to a local dealer and see if he can help. Thanks.

08-01-2005, 12:09 PM	#11
Rdub Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland OR Posts: 74	Ran in to this same problem a year ago..... bought a 41 chev flatbed hotrod that a guy had lost interest in, had a set of "ultras" on the front which I wanted to match.... looked and looked & was told they're not made anymore.... the AR"s are pretty close with exception of how the "spokes" tie in to the rim... the Ultras are straight whereas the AR's have a bit of an angled sweep to them.

08-02-2005, 09:21 PM	#12
gator2511 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: tampa florida Posts: 776	Well I went by an American Racing Wheel dealer today and he said it was definately not his wheel. He said it was probably an old Ultra but they don't make that wheel anymore. So, thanks to all you guys for your help but I guess I'll have to keep looking around and maybe I can turn one up.

08-03-2005, 03:14 PM	#13
CyberRanger Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: North Central Colorado Posts: 38	If you pop the tire off the bead, there should be some identification cast/stamped into the area between the beads. There may also be a part number somewhere on the inside of the rim. Worked in a tire shop while goin' thru school years ago & saw a lot of those markings. __________________ '71 K20 Custom Deluxe - 1 owner - Original 350 & 4 spd, Rams horn dual exhaust, Centerforce clutch, K&N 4"x15", factory tow hooks, 4" Skyjacker Softride, Rancho RSX9000s, custom Firestone AirRide overloads, 36" 305/85R16 10ply Buckshot Mudders, 4.11 gears



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