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ratrod67 · 04-03-2006, 09:54 AM

Had a close call this weekend. I've read it a million times and it holds true. Not all tools are created equal. Trying to install a fresh 454 into a friends car this weekend and kept hearing a weird noise. I couldn't figure out where it was coming from until I watched the engine and transmission start to lower. I was pretty lucky to get it back on the ground without it dropping. The scary part was it was above the car and I was pushing it into position to lower into the motor bay. I almost killed his car and his motor. The hoist is brand new from PepBoys.

1Ton · 04-03-2006, 10:08 AM

Wow! I'd be bringing it back for sure. Glad to hear everyone and everything survived.

rodnok1 · 04-03-2006, 10:25 AM

Holy crap!!!

ed455 · 04-07-2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rodnok1

Holy crap!!!

What he said!!!

Refund AND maybe a nice large gift card to keep you from talking to a lawyer seems to be in order. Dude, someone could be maimed in a situation like that. I would also report it to the consumer product safety commision. Can you say RECALL?

The Intimidator · 04-08-2006, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ed455

What he said!!!

Refund AND maybe a nice large gift card to keep you from talking to a lawyer seems to be in order. Dude, someone could be maimed in a situation like that. I would also report it to the consumer product safety commision. Can you say RECALL?

I agree but i would go with the lawyer and consumer affairs before going for the refund and get the word out there abought pep boy's and this crap that is coming out of china taiwan ect

Zumo · 04-03-2006, 10:27 AM

ooof. Not cool. Not cool at all.

*Billla* · 04-03-2006, 10:58 AM

Whew...yeah, they sure need to figure out what the heck happened. Sounds like someone swapped in a thinner wall steel arm. Keep us posted!

I've never used anything other than the Bluebird hoists, but I rent every time.

**tnblazerk5** · 04-03-2006, 11:05 AM

man that had to suck and glad nothing or anybody got hurt

bpmcgee · 04-03-2006, 12:05 PM

Wow, there's no way that engine weighs 3000 lbs! Is the attorney general's office the right one to talk to about defective and dangerous products?

Brian

cdowns · 04-03-2006, 12:08 PM

the bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low cost is forgotten

LUV2XCLR8 · 04-03-2006, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bpmcgee

Wow, there's no way that engine weighs 3000 lbs!

That's the first thing I looked at also

67chevemall · 04-03-2006, 12:08 PM

I often lose sleep when thinking about that! And watching it on TV is hard too.......

panhandler62 · 04-03-2006, 01:09 PM

There is probably some disclaimer on the product, i.e., "Will not fail unless used" ....

What does a dressed out rat weigh.. uh.. about 650 lbs or so? I've never yanked a big block but I've dropped in plenty of small blocks using rigs that look a lot less capable than that one appears.

Any load bearing tool should have at a minimum a 50% failure margin.

bpmcgee · 04-03-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by panhandler62

There is probably some disclaimer on the product, i.e., "Will not fail unless used" ....

What does a dressed out rat weigh.. uh.. about 650 lbs or so? I've never yanked a big block but I've dropped in plenty of small blocks using rigs that look a lot less capable than that one appears.

Any load bearing tool should have at a minimum a 50% failure margin.

Pan, you're right about the Small Block. Big Blocks are more, of course, but only around 1K -- add another 500 lbs (!!!) for the trans, and you're still at only 3/4 of a ton -- 1/2 what that lift was set for.

Brian

67sub · 04-03-2006, 01:15 PM

That worries me - I've got the same exact hoist and will be using it for the first time before months end. I'll start praying now. Thanks for the heads up. - Curtis

sneakysnake · 04-03-2006, 02:52 PM

That thing looks broke and dangerous,you should give it to me.LOL

Bishops Trucks · 04-03-2006, 03:12 PM

I'm in the same boat. I have one of those Pep Boy hoists and a bigblock to put in my truck. I think I am going to buy some plate steel and reinforce mine before I start. I'm glad to here nobody got hurt and nothing got destroyed.

Zumo · 04-03-2006, 03:30 PM

What is the brand?

Fred T · 04-03-2006, 03:41 PM

I told you not to try putting in that 600 hp Cat diesel.

It weighs almost as much as your truck.

toddtheodd · 04-03-2006, 04:05 PM

That's nuts!
I bought my hoist at Autozone, on a price match for what Pepboys was selling theirs for, and I haven't had a lick of trouble out of mine, even when I was being stupid.
I had to change the motor mounts on my 72, so I had the engine stands underneath of it, and was using the hoist to pull the motor up. Well, after I was done, I was tired and didn't feel like using the floor jack on both sides to get the jackstands out, so I just wrapped the chain around the frame and used the hoist to lift the entire front of the truck. Picked that truck up like it was nothing.

Toad

71SWBChevy · 04-03-2006, 06:55 PM

Man that is pretty scary, this is a good reason I don't scimp on tool cost, its not worth a few bucks to risk life and limb each time you use that budget tool. Sure some cheap tools are still pretty good and looking at that hoist it looks pretty sturdy but that is just scary.

ratrod67 · 04-03-2006, 07:01 PM

Well, I have an update. I took it by PepBoys today and according to the manager it looks like "customer misuse". I did get the corperate office number though

We will see what happens.

**FleetsidePaul** · 04-03-2006, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ratrod67

Well, I have an update. I took it by PepBoys today and according to the manager it looks like "customer misuse". I did get the corperate office number though

We will see what happens.

Pep Boys managment training 101

Say the customer broke it..

AKA throw $h*t at the wall and see if it sticks.

Pep Boys manager's quote "go away"

It's just wrong...

I'll never go there again. if this is how they treat customers

I hope Manny, Moe and Jack are rolling over in their graves

panhandler62 · 04-04-2006, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ratrod67

Well, I have an update. I took it by PepBoys today and according to the manager it looks like "customer misuse". I did get the corperate office number though

We will see what happens.

Shame on you! You used an engine hoist to lift a motor....

ginter · 05-16-2006, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ratrod67

Well, I have an update. I took it by PepBoys today and according to the manager it looks like "customer misuse". I did get the corperate office number though

We will see what happens.

Customer abuse huh? If'n it was me there would be some customer abuse allright. Right up his arse!

04-03-2006, 09:54 AM	#1
ratrod67 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 2,269	Engine hoist scare Had a close call this weekend. I've read it a million times and it holds true. Not all tools are created equal. Trying to install a fresh 454 into a friends car this weekend and kept hearing a weird noise. I couldn't figure out where it was coming from until I watched the engine and transmission start to lower. I was pretty lucky to get it back on the ground without it dropping. The scary part was it was above the car and I was pushing it into position to lower into the motor bay. I almost killed his car and his motor. The hoist is brand new from PepBoys. Attached Images

04-03-2006, 10:08 AM	#2
1Ton Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jamestown NY Posts: 731	Re: Engine hoist scare Wow! I'd be bringing it back for sure. Glad to hear everyone and everything survived. __________________ Support your local search and rescue team.... GET LOST! Originally Posted by DURRTY if some is good more is better too much ought to be enough........

04-03-2006, 10:25 AM	#3
rodnok1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Linden, North Carolina Posts: 617	Re: Engine hoist scare Holy crap!!! __________________ 64 Panel Rebuild Pics Clutch Replacement and Borg Warner T10 Trans Rebuild 64 Panel 1/2 Ton 350cubes/400hp BorgWarner t-10 3:73 Auburn Posi

04-03-2006, 10:27 AM	#6
Zumo Hot Rods For Life Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Waxahachie, TX Posts: 3,305	Re: Engine hoist scare ooof. Not cool. Not cool at all. __________________ 1968 C10 LWB **SOLD* Andy Viva Los Bicicletas! Los Muertos Custom Bicycles

04-03-2006, 10:58 AM	#7
Billla Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Monroe, WA Posts: 3,814	Re: Engine hoist scare Whew...yeah, they sure need to figure out what the heck happened. Sounds like someone swapped in a thinner wall steel arm. Keep us posted! I've never used anything other than the Bluebird hoists, but I rent every time.

04-03-2006, 11:05 AM	#8
tnblazerk5 User #12137 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: kingsport,upper east tenn Posts: 11,598	Re: Engine hoist scare man that had to suck and glad nothing or anybody got hurt

04-03-2006, 12:05 PM	#9
bpmcgee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 2,181	Re: Engine hoist scare Wow, there's no way that engine weighs 3000 lbs! Is the attorney general's office the right one to talk to about defective and dangerous products? Brian

04-03-2006, 12:08 PM	#10
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: Engine hoist scare the bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low cost is forgotten __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

04-03-2006, 12:08 PM	#12
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	Re: Engine hoist scare I often lose sleep when thinking about that! And watching it on TV is hard too....... __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

04-03-2006, 01:09 PM	#13
panhandler62 Java Mechanic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 6,763	Re: Engine hoist scare There is probably some disclaimer on the product, i.e., "Will not fail unless used" .... What does a dressed out rat weigh.. uh.. about 650 lbs or so? I've never yanked a big block but I've dropped in plenty of small blocks using rigs that look a lot less capable than that one appears. Any load bearing tool should have at a minimum a 50% failure margin. __________________ Keith 11 Lincoln MKT -- Momma's wagon 13 G37xS -- middle age crazy car 68 C20 Fleetside -- RIP Decorating the whole town up at a cost of $27 ....

04-03-2006, 01:15 PM	#15
67sub Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: D/FW TX Posts: 430	Re: Engine hoist scare That worries me - I've got the same exact hoist and will be using it for the first time before months end. I'll start praying now. Thanks for the heads up. - Curtis __________________ 2004 Kawasaki KLR Always looking for a cheap driver

04-03-2006, 02:52 PM	#16
sneakysnake It's a catastrophic success. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,077	Re: Engine hoist scare That thing looks broke and dangerous,you should give it to me.LOL

04-03-2006, 03:12 PM	#17
Bishops Trucks KEEP ON TRUCKIN' Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sterling, Va. Posts: 5,730	Re: Engine hoist scare I'm in the same boat. I have one of those Pep Boy hoists and a bigblock to put in my truck. I think I am going to buy some plate steel and reinforce mine before I start. I'm glad to here nobody got hurt and nothing got destroyed. __________________ JIM '97 GMC Sierra K1500 '95 Chevy Silverado C1500 '71 Cheyenne Z71 / LT1 & 4-Speed SWB K/10 Father/Son Project http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l689JKXPnA http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php "LIVIN' FREE FOREVER"

04-03-2006, 03:30 PM	#18
Zumo Hot Rods For Life Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Waxahachie, TX Posts: 3,305	Re: Engine hoist scare What is the brand? __________________ 1968 C10 LWB **SOLD* Andy Viva Los Bicicletas! Los Muertos Custom Bicycles

04-03-2006, 03:41 PM	#19
Fred T Cantankerous Geezer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bel Aire, KS Posts: 6,264	Re: Engine hoist scare I told you not to try putting in that 600 hp Cat diesel. It weighs almost as much as your truck. __________________ Fred There is no such thing as too much cam...just not enough engine.



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04-03-2006, 04:05 PM	#20
toddtheodd The oddest Todd around Join Date: May 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,418	Re: Engine hoist scare That's nuts! I bought my hoist at Autozone, on a price match for what Pepboys was selling theirs for, and I haven't had a lick of trouble out of mine, even when I was being stupid. I had to change the motor mounts on my 72, so I had the engine stands underneath of it, and was using the hoist to pull the motor up. Well, after I was done, I was tired and didn't feel like using the floor jack on both sides to get the jackstands out, so I just wrapped the chain around the frame and used the hoist to lift the entire front of the truck. Picked that truck up like it was nothing. Toad __________________ "The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." Ghengis Khan IIOY???

04-03-2006, 06:55 PM	#21
71SWBChevy Post Whore Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Owensboro KY Posts: 11,905	Re: Engine hoist scare Man that is pretty scary, this is a good reason I don't scimp on tool cost, its not worth a few bucks to risk life and limb each time you use that budget tool. Sure some cheap tools are still pretty good and looking at that hoist it looks pretty sturdy but that is just scary. __________________ Drew '71 Chevy 350/TH350 Hugger Orange Currently just a rolling frame, body work soon to follow!!! Check out my Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=212927 Daily Driver: 1997 Chevrolet S-10 with more gears than pistons

04-03-2006, 07:01 PM	#22
ratrod67 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 2,269	Re: Engine hoist scare Well, I have an update. I took it by PepBoys today and according to the manager it looks like "customer misuse". I did get the corperate office number though We will see what happens.

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