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**leddzepp** · 01-08-2009, 11:18 AM

I just picked up a really nice loaded 72 C-20 survivor, and was wondering if there are parts made to lower it just like a 1/2 ton truck? It has spindles in the front (8 lug all the way around) and leaf springs out back, and it looks like also it has overload or helper springs. I have seen lowering leafs made and was wondering if they have them for the 3/4 trucks also? Thanks in advance.

Also- Do they make rally wheels in 8-lug? I really dont want to change my axles and rotors if I can help it.

Sinister · 01-08-2009, 11:47 AM

I've seen drop spindles for C-20's around don't remember who carry's them though, maybe Classic Parts? Don't know about the lowering leafs. How about a flip kit?

Longhorn Man · 01-08-2009, 11:49 AM

no rally wheels, some people like the ugly silver wheels with center caps in the 90's 2500 truck for some reason, others will call them rallys. But they aren't. They are just silver steel wheels.
You can use drop springs up front, have drop spring pocket lower control arms made, or raised ball joint LCA, and I *THINK* there may be a lowered 8 lug spindle made... but I am not sure.
out back with the leafs, you can do a flip kit, and then raise it a little, or just leave it and C notch depending on desired drop.

**leddzepp** · 01-08-2009, 12:09 PM

I will check around to see if there is an 8 lug drop spindle. I have also seen dropped leaf springs, but I am guessing that they are different for 3/4 ton than 1/2 ton. How difficult is it to do a flip kit? Do they make one? Thanks again. This truck rides very smooth and I want to keep it that way as much as possible.

**GOPAPA** · 01-08-2009, 12:41 PM

I have leaf springs with a drop on my truck and there are a lot to take into consideration when ordering new leaf springs with a drop ..Believe me I found out the hard way so if you decide to go that route ,,give me a PM and I will fill you in on what all has to be considered for an exact to the inch drop you would want ..
Larry

**leddzepp** · 01-08-2009, 12:44 PM

Larry- Is your truck a 3/4 ton also?

**GOPAPA** · 01-08-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp

Larry- Is your truck a 3/4 ton also?

. My truck is 1/2 ton that came stock with leaf springs ..

TotalChevy1 · 01-08-2009, 01:30 PM

They do sell drop spindles at Performance online. That is going to be my next move. I used 3" drop coils in the front and in the rear I installed some drop shackles, took half the leaf stack out and had the leafs springs re done with an addtional 2" drop. The back I was able to drop by almost 7". I don't plan on hauling with the truck... just ride in comfort.

No3Fan4Ever · 01-18-2009, 07:39 PM

link to performanceonline

performanceonline

I think GMCPaul has a kit also

**RPOZ11** · 01-19-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by No3Fan4Ever

link to performanceonline

performanceonline

Nice Stuff there!

**leddzepp** · 01-08-2009, 01:37 PM

Total Chevy- Thanks for your info, and VERY nice truck! I want to get some pics of the truck I just got and post them this weekend. I see that CPP sells the drop spindles for the C-20...I also see they sell the shackles to lower the rear by 2"...just wondering if they fit both 1/2 and 3/4 ton and if the mono leaf drop leafs will also fit the 3/4 ton trucks

TotalChevy1 · 01-08-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp

Total Chevy- Thanks for your info, and VERY nice truck! I want to get some pics of the truck I just got and post them this weekend. I see that CPP sells the drop spindles for the C-20...I also see they sell the shackles to lower the rear by 2"...just wondering if they fit both 1/2 and 3/4 ton and if the mono leaf drop leafs will also fit the 3/4 ton trucks

I looked into the mono and for the money it was cheaper to have them re-arch(?) the springs. If I recall, for new ubolts and spring work cost me around $200

**leddzepp** · 01-08-2009, 03:25 PM

That sounds like a good way to go to save money...so the mono leafs will work for 3/4 ton also??

OhioDan · 01-08-2009, 04:32 PM

I bought a set of those drop shackles. They do drop it 1-2", but the top of the shackle hits the bed. When I inquired as to the problem, I was told they wouldn't work on a 3/4 ton. They were made for 1/2 tons only. There was no mention of this fact in the description. They took them back, but were very reluctant to do it. Might save yourself the hassle, and look at other means to lower it. My $.02 .

**leddzepp** · 01-08-2009, 04:36 PM

Thanks for the input Dan. I do want to go more than 2" on the drop and I figured the shackles would hit. I used to lift Jeep CJ's so I am in familiar territory with leaf springs. How are them speakers workin out for ya?

sleepertruck72 · 01-08-2009, 07:28 PM

Welcome to the C-20 world of beasts !

Its all gravy until the registration comes around yearly.. $229 for my C-20

I remember a thread here where someone lowered a 3/4 ton. It looked nice and may have been in SoCal member If I remember correctly.

OhioDan · 01-09-2009, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp

Thanks for the input Dan. I do want to go more than 2" on the drop and I figured the shackles would hit. I used to lift Jeep CJ's so I am in familiar territory with leaf springs. How are them speakers workin out for ya?

Probably won't try the speakers until spring. To cold to go out in the garage now. Have to strip and paint the mounts first.

**leddzepp** · 01-08-2009, 07:31 PM

Why is your registration so high?

sleepertruck72 · 01-08-2009, 07:46 PM

I wish I knew.. the reg fee is $59 or so and they add a "weight fee" of $159 or something like that along with county fees... one fee after another. The DMV wont budge on the fees

Here is the link to the nice lowered c-20 in SoCal. Wow my memory is still working somewhat

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...t=c-20+lowered

Longhorn Man · 01-08-2009, 07:59 PM

Cali screws ppl hard when they can. All pick ups are registered as comercial vehicles. About the only way you can *TRY* to get around that is with a campershell on the back.

**leddzepp** · 01-08-2009, 08:07 PM

My other 72 is only $40 a yr to register, and it is also considered a commercial vehicle. I had to get it weighed on a grain scale.

No arguement there...Cali does screw people hard when they can. Luckily, any vehicle 1975 and older is emmissions exempt. Go figure...we have the toughest smog laws in the country, and yet the ones that pollute the most are exempt

**Tetdoeuf** · 01-09-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp

No arguement there...Cali does screw people hard when they can. Luckily, any vehicle 1975 and older is emmissions exempt. Go figure...we have the toughest smog laws in the country, and yet the ones that pollute the most are exempt

How many pre 75 cars and trucks drive around every day? I don't think they contribute to smog that much.

**leddzepp** · 01-09-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tetdoeuf

How many pre 75 cars and trucks drive around every day? I don't think they contribute to smog that much.

I see lots of them. If you don't think they contribute to smog, just look up.

**FleetsidePaul** · 01-08-2009, 09:54 PM

Mine was $149 last time, but it is nice not to worry about smogging it.

I think the tags are going up though because my old 68 VW was $75 last time (last week) and its definitely not a commercial vehicle

factorystock · 01-09-2009, 09:30 PM

$138 for Reg in Calif 1970 C-20 empty weight 4200 Lbs. I rarely see any pre 75 vehicles on the road, there contributions to smog are minimal at best.I would look at planes, trains, commerical trucks, even buses( around the clock polluters) as the biggest sources. Most commuters only drive 1/2 hr to 1 hr a day in very clean late model cars.

01-08-2009, 11:18 AM	#1
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,997	3/4 ton question I just picked up a really nice loaded 72 C-20 survivor, and was wondering if there are parts made to lower it just like a 1/2 ton truck? It has spindles in the front (8 lug all the way around) and leaf springs out back, and it looks like also it has overload or helper springs. I have seen lowering leafs made and was wondering if they have them for the 3/4 trucks also? Thanks in advance. Also- Do they make rally wheels in 8-lug? I really dont want to change my axles and rotors if I can help it. Last edited by leddzepp; 01-08-2009 at 11:23 AM.

01-08-2009, 11:47 AM	#2
Sinister Between Trucks... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 3,830	Re: 3/4 ton question I've seen drop spindles for C-20's around don't remember who carry's them though, maybe Classic Parts? Don't know about the lowering leafs. How about a flip kit? __________________ Beat it to fit, Paint it to match...

01-08-2009, 11:49 AM	#3
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: 3/4 ton question no rally wheels, some people like the ugly silver wheels with center caps in the 90's 2500 truck for some reason, others will call them rallys. But they aren't. They are just silver steel wheels. You can use drop springs up front, have drop spring pocket lower control arms made, or raised ball joint LCA, and I THINK there may be a lowered 8 lug spindle made... but I am not sure. out back with the leafs, you can do a flip kit, and then raise it a little, or just leave it and C notch depending on desired drop.

01-08-2009, 12:09 PM	#4
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,997	Re: 3/4 ton question I will check around to see if there is an 8 lug drop spindle. I have also seen dropped leaf springs, but I am guessing that they are different for 3/4 ton than 1/2 ton. How difficult is it to do a flip kit? Do they make one? Thanks again. This truck rides very smooth and I want to keep it that way as much as possible.

01-08-2009, 12:41 PM	#5
GOPAPA Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nampa Idaho Posts: 7,476	Re: 3/4 ton question I have leaf springs with a drop on my truck and there are a lot to take into consideration when ordering new leaf springs with a drop ..Believe me I found out the hard way so if you decide to go that route ,,give me a PM and I will fill you in on what all has to be considered for an exact to the inch drop you would want .. Larry

01-08-2009, 12:44 PM	#6
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,997	Re: 3/4 ton question Larry- Is your truck a 3/4 ton also?

01-08-2009, 01:30 PM	#8
TotalChevy1 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 175	Re: 3/4 ton question They do sell drop spindles at Performance online. That is going to be my next move. I used 3" drop coils in the front and in the rear I installed some drop shackles, took half the leaf stack out and had the leafs springs re done with an addtional 2" drop. The back I was able to drop by almost 7". I don't plan on hauling with the truck... just ride in comfort. Attached Images __________________ 1972 c-20, 350/350, dana 60 w/456 gears(no Posi)

01-18-2009, 07:39 PM	#9
No3Fan4Ever Running on empty Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Roanoke, Virginia Posts: 1,033	Re: 3/4 ton question link to performanceonline performanceonline I think GMCPaul has a kit also __________________ _____________________________________________ Tim We have two rules here at the Rock. Rule #1: No writing on the walls. Rule#2: Obey all rules 70 GMC Sierra Grande "Custom Camper" Longhorn 402 Big Block TH400 PS PB factory AC Posi; 94 Bronco XLT 302, auto;worn out daily driver

01-08-2009, 01:37 PM	#11
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,997	Re: 3/4 ton question Total Chevy- Thanks for your info, and VERY nice truck! I want to get some pics of the truck I just got and post them this weekend. I see that CPP sells the drop spindles for the C-20...I also see they sell the shackles to lower the rear by 2"...just wondering if they fit both 1/2 and 3/4 ton and if the mono leaf drop leafs will also fit the 3/4 ton trucks

01-08-2009, 03:25 PM	#13
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,997	Re: 3/4 ton question That sounds like a good way to go to save money...so the mono leafs will work for 3/4 ton also??

01-08-2009, 04:32 PM	#14
OhioDan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Carlisle, Ohio,USA Posts: 1,404	Re: 3/4 ton question I bought a set of those drop shackles. They do drop it 1-2", but the top of the shackle hits the bed. When I inquired as to the problem, I was told they wouldn't work on a 3/4 ton. They were made for 1/2 tons only. There was no mention of this fact in the description. They took them back, but were very reluctant to do it. Might save yourself the hassle, and look at other means to lower it. My $.02 . __________________ LIFE AIN'T EASY WHEN YER FAT AND GREASY! GMC= Got More Class! 1970 GMC LWB, Fleetside, 350/4spd, Flowmaster "40's", 2002 GMC 16" Rallies, cowl hood,and added a bunch of options that weren't there when I started.

01-08-2009, 04:36 PM	#15
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,997	Re: 3/4 ton question Thanks for the input Dan. I do want to go more than 2" on the drop and I figured the shackles would hit. I used to lift Jeep CJ's so I am in familiar territory with leaf springs. How are them speakers workin out for ya?

01-08-2009, 07:28 PM	#16
sleepertruck72 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Turlock California 95380 Posts: 2,075	Re: 3/4 ton question Welcome to the C-20 world of beasts ! Its all gravy until the registration comes around yearly.. $229 for my C-20 I remember a thread here where someone lowered a 3/4 ton. It looked nice and may have been in SoCal member If I remember correctly. __________________ 72 C20 Longbed 05 1500 Z71 Last edited by sleepertruck72; 01-08-2009 at 07:33 PM.

01-08-2009, 07:31 PM	#18
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,997	Re: 3/4 ton question Why is your registration so high?

01-08-2009, 07:46 PM	#19
sleepertruck72 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Turlock California 95380 Posts: 2,075	Re: 3/4 ton question I wish I knew.. the reg fee is $59 or so and they add a "weight fee" of $159 or something like that along with county fees... one fee after another. The DMV wont budge on the fees Here is the link to the nice lowered c-20 in SoCal. Wow my memory is still working somewhat http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...t=c-20+lowered __________________ 72 C20 Longbed 05 1500 Z71



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01-08-2009, 07:59 PM	#20
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: 3/4 ton question Cali screws ppl hard when they can. All pick ups are registered as comercial vehicles. About the only way you can TRY to get around that is with a campershell on the back.

01-08-2009, 08:07 PM	#21
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,997	Re: 3/4 ton question My other 72 is only $40 a yr to register, and it is also considered a commercial vehicle. I had to get it weighed on a grain scale. No arguement there...Cali does screw people hard when they can. Luckily, any vehicle 1975 and older is emmissions exempt. Go figure...we have the toughest smog laws in the country, and yet the ones that pollute the most are exempt Last edited by leddzepp; 01-08-2009 at 08:10 PM.

01-08-2009, 09:54 PM	#24
FleetsidePaul R.I.P. E.S.L.L. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kernville CA./ Lake Isabella CA. Posts: 11,419	Re: 3/4 ton question Mine was $149 last time, but it is nice not to worry about smogging it. I think the tags are going up though because my old 68 VW was $75 last time (last week) and its definitely not a commercial vehicle __________________ 1971 Custom C/20 1970 CST 20 1970 C/30 Flatbed 1983 C/30 Dually 2015 Corvette Z51 2021 Corvette Z51 1991 Cadillac Hearse 1982 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz 2000 Porsche Boxster S 2020 Jeep Gladiator 1973 VW Thing 1973 Plymouth Satellite wagon 1963 Baja Bug 1959 Bug Dune Buggy 1970 Baja Bug 1987 Jaguar XJ 350. R.I.P. El Jay R.I.P Jessie. R.I.P Grumpy. Every day is a gift from God.

01-09-2009, 09:30 PM	#25
factorystock Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: west coast Posts: 3,369	Re: 3/4 ton question $138 for Reg in Calif 1970 C-20 empty weight 4200 Lbs. I rarely see any pre 75 vehicles on the road, there contributions to smog are minimal at best.I would look at planes, trains, commerical trucks, even buses( around the clock polluters) as the biggest sources. Most commuters only drive 1/2 hr to 1 hr a day in very clean late model cars.

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