Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

72farmer · 01-12-2016, 06:56 PM

My body man removed my VIN tag from my 72 C-10 and gave it to me some 3 years ago.I am ready to re-install it.Can someone give me some approx. measurements on where to locate it it on drivers side door jamb?

**70STOVEBOLT** · 01-12-2016, 08:08 PM

It appears to be 1inch below the jamb vent and at the top and 1/2 inch above the rocket seam at the bottom. Sorry for the sideways pic. Damn iPhone!

72farmer · 01-12-2016, 08:19 PM

Thanks Stove that is exactly what I wanted.

**70STOVEBOLT** · 01-12-2016, 10:57 PM

No problem, glad to help.

**special-K** · 01-13-2016, 10:12 AM

Can't you find the holes from the back side? Or, was new metal put in that area?

**RenoKeene** · 01-13-2016, 11:37 AM

And....if your not using factory Rosette rivets you may have a DMV problem.

**michael bustamante** · 01-13-2016, 11:50 AM

the real problem is finding the rosette rivits.....

davepl · 01-13-2016, 03:31 PM

They appear serious, at least in Illinois!

"defendant Gary Steffens was found guilty by a jury sitting in the circuit court of McLean County of possessing a rosette rivet which has not yet been attached to, or which has been removed from, the original vehicle, in violation of section 4-103(a)(5) of the Illinois Vehicle Code (Code) (Ill.Rev.Stat.1989, ch. 95½, par. 4-103(a)(5))."

He got two years in prison for it, but conditional discharge.

I wonder how they define these special rivets? Like it you make your own with a standard rivet and a Dremel, is that against the law? Not encouraging anyone to do anything illegal or unethical, I'm just curious. Not like these truck are being stolen and re-VIN'd at an alarming rate, so...

68 CRACKERBOX · 01-13-2016, 07:57 PM

I think you have a big problem. if you reattach the vin plate that is a federal offend could end up doing 5 years in the pen. if you go to the dmv and tell them what you have done to the truck they will inspect it and make you get a rebuilt title and vin plate. so there really is not a good anwser. the body man shouldn't taken it off.and that why he wouldn't put it back on I would say.

CG · 01-13-2016, 08:11 PM

There has to be more to the story of the guy getting two years for possessing an unused rivet. That's just insane.

CG · 01-13-2016, 08:23 PM

I guess Ive never looked at the rivets closely ... are the rosettes dark like that on our trucks?

**Grumpy old man** · 01-13-2016, 08:38 PM

No those are late model anodized

olson_adam · 01-13-2016, 09:29 PM

So if you have to replace a cab, what does one do about a title? You can't transfer a tag from your old one?? I have seen vin tags and titles for sale, are they illegal?

**70STOVEBOLT** · 01-13-2016, 09:59 PM

I think it depends on the state you are in. I am researching that right now.

68 CRACKERBOX · 01-13-2016, 10:10 PM

dmv here says you change in large part (cab,engine,front end etc.) it has to have a rebuilt title.I didn't agree with this they showed it to me in print. I have rebuilt wrecked big truck for years and never had problems,but they didn't know it either .I ask if had a new peterbilt with a cat and something happen to the engine and cat replaced it what would do, they said it get a rebuilt title, if a hood got knocked off rebuilt title. thats nuts. but it's the law (if they know about it)

**Elliot949** · 01-13-2016, 10:20 PM

Guy... Just a warning for you... It is against the law to mess with the VIN tag on a truck... The fact your Bodyman did that put you in a very compromising position...

Now in Discussing the "rosette" rivets you will want to be VERY careful on here as it violates your TOS on this board to willingly give information on acquiring these or supplying any information on how to do anything with this... THe board will not support breaking laws...

Trust me I was called out on this a year or so ago by a board administrator when I was asking similar questions... I was told that I could be removed from the board so I immediately stopped...

Just my experience so now with that knowledge do what you want...

Truck on dudes...

Dan

**70cst** · 01-13-2016, 10:27 PM

Guys ... I am closing this thread as sufficient info has been given and this thread is on thin ice. If I am wrong - it will be reopened.

01-12-2016, 06:56 PM	#1
72farmer Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hazel Green AL Posts: 286	Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb My body man removed my VIN tag from my 72 C-10 and gave it to me some 3 years ago.I am ready to re-install it.Can someone give me some approx. measurements on where to locate it it on drivers side door jamb?

01-12-2016, 08:08 PM	#2
70STOVEBOLT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Winona Lake, IN Posts: 6,414	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb It appears to be 1inch below the jamb vent and at the top and 1/2 inch above the rocket seam at the bottom. Sorry for the sideways pic. Damn iPhone! Attached Images __________________ 70 C/10 SWB 402/TH400/3.73 "The Needy Beast" 200,000 Mile Club Disc Brake Club Owner installed options: Front Sway Bar Power Steering Power Brakes Cigar Lighter Courtesy Lights Deluxe Side Markers Wiper Delay Sliding Rear Window Power Windows Power Locks Sniper EFI 2015 Silverado 1500 LS 4.3/6L80/3.23 lowered 2" front & rear

01-12-2016, 08:19 PM	#3
72farmer Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hazel Green AL Posts: 286	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb Thanks Stove that is exactly what I wanted.

01-12-2016, 10:57 PM	#4
70STOVEBOLT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Winona Lake, IN Posts: 6,414	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb No problem, glad to help. __________________ 70 C/10 SWB 402/TH400/3.73 "The Needy Beast" 200,000 Mile Club Disc Brake Club Owner installed options: Front Sway Bar Power Steering Power Brakes Cigar Lighter Courtesy Lights Deluxe Side Markers Wiper Delay Sliding Rear Window Power Windows Power Locks Sniper EFI 2015 Silverado 1500 LS 4.3/6L80/3.23 lowered 2" front & rear

01-13-2016, 10:12 AM	#5
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb Can't you find the holes from the back side? Or, was new metal put in that area? __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-13-2016, 11:37 AM	#6
RenoKeene Florida Edition Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Fruitland Park, FL Posts: 4,028	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb And....if your not using factory Rosette rivets you may have a DMV problem. __________________ 70 GMC Short Stepside "Rose"-An American Beauty: Factory 402/TH400, AM/FM, AC, Tilt, Tach, Buckets, Posi, PS, PB, 3-5 Drop, Complete Resto-Rod 67 C-20 Slant Back Wrecker "Mad Max" 67 C-10 Ratrod "Step-N-Wolf" 71 Serro Scotty Sportsman camper "Scotty" 97 LT1 Z28 "The Hornet" Link to more pics of "Rose" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...p?albumid=1684 Check out my "Cheap Tricks" thread and add to it if you can, lots of good info there. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=489394

01-13-2016, 11:50 AM	#7
michael bustamante Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 7,862	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb the real problem is finding the rosette rivits..... __________________ 1967custom

01-13-2016, 03:31 PM	#8
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,332	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb They appear serious, at least in Illinois! "defendant Gary Steffens was found guilty by a jury sitting in the circuit court of McLean County of possessing a rosette rivet which has not yet been attached to, or which has been removed from, the original vehicle, in violation of section 4-103(a)(5) of the Illinois Vehicle Code (Code) (Ill.Rev.Stat.1989, ch. 95½, par. 4-103(a)(5))." He got two years in prison for it, but conditional discharge. I wonder how they define these special rivets? Like it you make your own with a standard rivet and a Dremel, is that against the law? Not encouraging anyone to do anything illegal or unethical, I'm just curious. Not like these truck are being stolen and re-VIN'd at an alarming rate, so... __________________ 1970 GMC Sierra Grande Custom Camper - Built, not Bought 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Coupe 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Convertible

01-13-2016, 07:57 PM	#9
68 CRACKERBOX Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: MYAKKA CITY fla. Posts: 408	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb I think you have a big problem. if you reattach the vin plate that is a federal offend could end up doing 5 years in the pen. if you go to the dmv and tell them what you have done to the truck they will inspect it and make you get a rebuilt title and vin plate. so there really is not a good anwser. the body man shouldn't taken it off.and that why he wouldn't put it back on I would say. __________________ short bed are just cars without trunk lids trucks have long beds real trucks are longhorn 72 gmc 2500 longhorn 68 chevy c-30 50th anniv. 9ft step side 68 gmc crackerbox 8v71 detroit 72 gmc astro95 8v71 detroit

01-13-2016, 08:11 PM	#10
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 20,019	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb There has to be more to the story of the guy getting two years for possessing an unused rivet. That's just insane. __________________ … … … … … … … … ... … … … … … … … … … … …

01-13-2016, 08:23 PM	#11
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 20,019	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb I guess Ive never looked at the rivets closely ... are the rosettes dark like that on our trucks? __________________ … … … … … … … … ... … … … … … … … … … … …

01-13-2016, 08:38 PM	#12
Grumpy old man Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gods country East,Tn Posts: 8,545	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb No those are late model anodized

01-13-2016, 09:29 PM	#13
olson_adam Registered User Join Date: May 2015 Location: Langdon, ND Posts: 21	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb So if you have to replace a cab, what does one do about a title? You can't transfer a tag from your old one?? I have seen vin tags and titles for sale, are they illegal?

01-13-2016, 09:59 PM	#14
70STOVEBOLT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Winona Lake, IN Posts: 6,414	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb I think it depends on the state you are in. I am researching that right now. __________________ 70 C/10 SWB 402/TH400/3.73 "The Needy Beast" 200,000 Mile Club Disc Brake Club Owner installed options: Front Sway Bar Power Steering Power Brakes Cigar Lighter Courtesy Lights Deluxe Side Markers Wiper Delay Sliding Rear Window Power Windows Power Locks Sniper EFI 2015 Silverado 1500 LS 4.3/6L80/3.23 lowered 2" front & rear

01-13-2016, 10:10 PM	#15
68 CRACKERBOX Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: MYAKKA CITY fla. Posts: 408	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb dmv here says you change in large part (cab,engine,front end etc.) it has to have a rebuilt title.I didn't agree with this they showed it to me in print. I have rebuilt wrecked big truck for years and never had problems,but they didn't know it either .I ask if had a new peterbilt with a cat and something happen to the engine and cat replaced it what would do, they said it get a rebuilt title, if a hood got knocked off rebuilt title. thats nuts. but it's the law (if they know about it) __________________ short bed are just cars without trunk lids trucks have long beds real trucks are longhorn 72 gmc 2500 longhorn 68 chevy c-30 50th anniv. 9ft step side 68 gmc crackerbox 8v71 detroit 72 gmc astro95 8v71 detroit



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01-13-2016, 10:20 PM	#16
Elliot949 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Winfield, Ks. Posts: 4,162	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb Guy... Just a warning for you... It is against the law to mess with the VIN tag on a truck... The fact your Bodyman did that put you in a very compromising position... Now in Discussing the "rosette" rivets you will want to be VERY careful on here as it violates your TOS on this board to willingly give information on acquiring these or supplying any information on how to do anything with this... THe board will not support breaking laws... Trust me I was called out on this a year or so ago by a board administrator when I was asking similar questions... I was told that I could be removed from the board so I immediately stopped... Just my experience so now with that knowledge do what you want... Truck on dudes... Dan __________________ Dan Johnston... Owner of My Dad's- '67 Chevy C-20 Custom Camper Short Fleetside Pickup PAPA J And our newest addition a- '71 Chevy CST/10 Short Fleetside Pickup Haulin' SOLD Papa J's Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=612847 Haulin's Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=671130SOLD B Bears Build Thread:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=744210

01-13-2016, 10:27 PM	#17
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,373	Re: Need measurements to re-install VIN number plate on door jamb Guys ... I am closing this thread as sufficient info has been given and this thread is on thin ice. If I am wrong - it will be reopened. __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

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