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1LIME69 · 12-24-2007, 11:21 AM

After changing my three speed manual to a van column tilt automatic I realized I only have one plug (L-shaped) under my dash with a green and blue wire. I believe this is the backup wires. What do I do about the neutral safety wires?PLEASE HELP

1LIME69 · 12-24-2007, 11:25 AM

Sorry the truck plug has two green wires (light/dark green)

cdowns · 12-24-2007, 11:54 AM

find the heavy gauge purple wire going from the ignition switch to the starter solenoid cut it in half and plput ends on it and connect to nss

Longhorn Man · 12-24-2007, 12:16 PM

or just ignore it.

berencam · 12-24-2007, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

or just ignore it.

agreed

**jaros44sr** · 12-24-2007, 12:33 PM

3x agreed, don't you only need it for the automatic?

Longhorn Man · 12-24-2007, 01:57 PM

he's putting in an automatic.
I just feel its a retarded feature. If you park the truck in drive and walk away from it, you deserve to get the crap scared outta you when you fire it up in gear.
Just my opinion though. many will get in line to tell me I'm wrong though.
If you feel you may start it in gear, then you can just cut the purple wire as stated above.
Being that your truck never had one since the day it was built, there's nothing requiring you to have one now. (as far as any state inspection goes)

Its funny, the manual shift trucks never had it, yet I get flamed for saying it doesn't matter in an automatic. Even though when you park a stick shift, you LEAVE IT IN GEAR.

**VetteVet** · 12-24-2007, 02:09 PM

Don't forget the backup lights work off the NSS on an automatic. It's going to be fun to find the circuit though when the switch was on the manual tranny. FWIW I think the NSS is a must. If he forgets and starts it in gear with the accelerator pressed a little there goes the car in front or behind or the garage door etc. etc. It only takes once.

Walts_restoration · 12-24-2007, 02:15 PM

as i tell those of the 14 year old who put the new stang through the grarge wall

thats one of the best videos ive seen on youtube haha

**Boog** · 12-24-2007, 02:23 PM

And to all those who have had their legs broken when standing in between the truck and another vehicle when it's started up. That van column most likely already has a nss on it so why not hook it up. Cheap insurance.

**jaros44sr** · 12-24-2007, 02:33 PM

Sorry, I misread it. I thought he was putting in a manual. guess I need a NSS on my typing fingers, or take my brain outta gear...

1LIME69 · 12-24-2007, 03:27 PM

If I dont hook the nss up do I have to make any other connections? Do I have to bypass anything?

Andy4639 · 12-25-2007, 03:47 AM

My 71 hasn't had one since I installed the 700-R4 in it. Yes it maybe a nice addition but not a have too for these years. I for one don't park my truck that close to anything. After the first few times of leaving it in gear you will learn to make sure it's in park or neutral!
Longhorn Man

mnunn454 · 12-25-2007, 03:52 AM

This is what happens to the best of us when you don't wire in the NSS safety feature into an automatic.

Not only did it ding the bezel, but it dented and pushed down the fender and pushed back the bumper as well.

Take the time. Do it right. Save some $ and some pride swallowing.

Andy4639 · 12-25-2007, 05:48 AM

Ouch! I hate when that happens. That's why I don't park close to anything. Things happen!

dan42 · 12-25-2007, 05:59 AM

Longhorn man, you were right, you got flamed. Oh well.

60ratrod · 12-25-2007, 06:23 AM

that vid was hilarious! but not having a nss is kinda nice when you stall out in the middle of an intersection when you need to start and get your ass going! had that happen to me when i was working out the kinks in my 72(well the 1st time i was working the kinks out of the 72 anyway

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Walts_restoration

as i tell those of the 14 year old who put the new stang through the grarge wall

thats one of the best videos ive seen on youtube haha

Longhorn Man · 12-25-2007, 11:57 AM

I just find it so hard to believe that so many people have a hard time putting the shifter in park.

GREASEMONKEY72 · 12-25-2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

I just find it so hard to believe that so many people have a hard time putting the shifter in park.

or neutral, i feel the same as you andy

eric67m · 12-26-2007, 04:47 AM

Everything that I have owned for quite a while are manuals. I am used to leaving the vehicle in whatever gear I'm in. My truck has no emergency brake currently so leaving it in gear IS the parking brake.

The other day I had a loaner from the Toyota dealership. It took me a minute to figure out how to remove the key because the automatic transmission needs to be in park to remove it. I felt stupid for a little bit. Then I got my car back the next day.

Longhorn Man · 12-26-2007, 05:12 AM

point taken I guess.

12-24-2007, 11:21 AM	#1
1LIME69 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Alexis, NC Posts: 182	Neutral Safety Dilema After changing my three speed manual to a van column tilt automatic I realized I only have one plug (L-shaped) under my dash with a green and blue wire. I believe this is the backup wires. What do I do about the neutral safety wires?PLEASE HELP

12-24-2007, 11:25 AM	#2
1LIME69 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Alexis, NC Posts: 182	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema Sorry the truck plug has two green wires (light/dark green)

12-24-2007, 11:54 AM	#3
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema find the heavy gauge purple wire going from the ignition switch to the starter solenoid cut it in half and plput ends on it and connect to nss __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

12-24-2007, 12:16 PM	#4
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema or just ignore it.

12-24-2007, 12:33 PM	#6
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,704	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema 3x agreed, don't you only need it for the automatic? __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

12-24-2007, 01:57 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema he's putting in an automatic. I just feel its a retarded feature. If you park the truck in drive and walk away from it, you deserve to get the crap scared outta you when you fire it up in gear. Just my opinion though. many will get in line to tell me I'm wrong though. If you feel you may start it in gear, then you can just cut the purple wire as stated above. Being that your truck never had one since the day it was built, there's nothing requiring you to have one now. (as far as any state inspection goes) Its funny, the manual shift trucks never had it, yet I get flamed for saying it doesn't matter in an automatic. Even though when you park a stick shift, you LEAVE IT IN GEAR.

12-24-2007, 02:09 PM	#8
VetteVet Msgt USAF Ret Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 8,717	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema Don't forget the backup lights work off the NSS on an automatic. It's going to be fun to find the circuit though when the switch was on the manual tranny. FWIW I think the NSS is a must. If he forgets and starts it in gear with the accelerator pressed a little there goes the car in front or behind or the garage door etc. etc. It only takes once. __________________ VetteVet metallic green 67 stepside 74 corvette convertible 1965 Harley sportster 1995 Harley wide glide Growing old is hell, but it beats the alternative.

12-24-2007, 02:15 PM	#9
Walts_restoration Real Projects never die Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lawrence, kansas Posts: 1,508	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema as i tell those of the 14 year old who put the new stang through the grarge wall thats one of the best videos ive seen on youtube haha __________________ Ill put it this way, ive got a few lawn ornaments My name tag says Ryan KansasTwister On other forums Last edited by Walts_restoration; 12-24-2007 at 02:16 PM.

12-24-2007, 02:23 PM	#10
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 13,452	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema And to all those who have had their legs broken when standing in between the truck and another vehicle when it's started up. That van column most likely already has a nss on it so why not hook it up. Cheap insurance. __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

12-24-2007, 02:33 PM	#11
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,704	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema Sorry, I misread it. I thought he was putting in a manual. guess I need a NSS on my typing fingers, or take my brain outta gear... __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

12-24-2007, 03:27 PM	#12
1LIME69 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Alexis, NC Posts: 182	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema If I dont hook the nss up do I have to make any other connections? Do I have to bypass anything?

12-25-2007, 03:47 AM	#13
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema My 71 hasn't had one since I installed the 700-R4 in it. Yes it maybe a nice addition but not a have too for these years. I for one don't park my truck that close to anything. After the first few times of leaving it in gear you will learn to make sure it's in park or neutral! Longhorn Man __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

12-25-2007, 03:52 AM	#14
mnunn454 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 602	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema This is what happens to the best of us when you don't wire in the NSS safety feature into an automatic. Not only did it ding the bezel, but it dented and pushed down the fender and pushed back the bumper as well. Take the time. Do it right. Save some $ and some pride swallowing. Attached Images __________________ 69 C-10 SWB Fleetside 454/TH400 (For Sale) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/c...ct=1299&cat=12 70 El Camino 454 TH700 29 Model A 4-DR Sedan Deluxe

12-25-2007, 05:48 AM	#15
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema Ouch! I hate when that happens. That's why I don't park close to anything. Things happen! __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

12-25-2007, 05:59 AM	#16
dan42 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cali Central Coast Posts: 5,191	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema Longhorn man, you were right, you got flamed. Oh well. __________________ '67 SWB Fleetside ZZ4/350/Tremec 5-speed/4link/Scott's IFS - and fun as heck! SOLD Click here to support the board Philippians 4: 6-7



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12-25-2007, 11:57 AM	#18
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema I just find it so hard to believe that so many people have a hard time putting the shifter in park.

12-26-2007, 04:47 AM	#20
eric67m Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Monroe, WA Posts: 298	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema Everything that I have owned for quite a while are manuals. I am used to leaving the vehicle in whatever gear I'm in. My truck has no emergency brake currently so leaving it in gear IS the parking brake. The other day I had a loaner from the Toyota dealership. It took me a minute to figure out how to remove the key because the automatic transmission needs to be in park to remove it. I felt stupid for a little bit. Then I got my car back the next day. __________________ 67 K10, lwb, fleetside, 327, 4spd, 205, cab and 3/4 frame swap, 14 bolt, big window, and a "rustoleum roll job"

12-26-2007, 05:12 AM	#21
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Neutral Safety Dilema point taken I guess.

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