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Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
Who would be someone that would carry Mass Loaded Vinyl (MLV) that I could buy from locally? I know the guy on the "sound deadener showdown" website carries it but the shipping kills it because of the weight. What is this stuff used for besides sound deadening? It looks like the stuff they use for a waterproof membrane (shower liner) under the ceramic tile.
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
You can call around to your local upholstery and audio shops. It's a toss up if they will sell it to you or not. Worth the call to find out though.
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
Thanks. I was hoping someone would chime in and tell me it was used for something else and that I could buy it at Home Depot for like $1 a foot or something. Oh well..
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
I would Google the manufacturer and then look for the closest outlet. On another note I spent the $79 to join Amazon Prime, free two day shipping and you would be surprised at what you can find on that site. I did the Google thing when I needed some concrete cleaner and they wanted $30 shipping for a $40 bottle of cleaner and found a local source just up the road. Happy Holidays and good luck.
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
Yeah, I wish something could be picked up at Home Depot on the cheap. The only thing offered is peel and seal offered by lowes. I just purchased a roll, and while it works, it isn't the best stuff I've seen. It will do the job for behind the gas tank, but I'm going to look elsewhere for a more efficient solution. I'm more real world scientific and less read it on the Internet so it must be true. The sound deadener showdown is a great read and contains a lot of good information. Unfortunately it's biased to a product they are selling and as such doesn't provide a neutral opinion.
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
MLV is sold at better (local) building supply and insulation companies. You may need to call around a bit. And yes it is bloody heavy, which is what makes it work so well.
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
Thanks MidLifer! What is it used for? (At a building supply company)
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
Soundproofing. I got mine from a contractor who had a partial roll left over from a project where he was building a conference room for a law firm.
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
Hushmat is coming in way more expensive than a 100 ft roll of MLV. It's around $1 a sq. Ft. And about 60 bucks to ship.
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
At the risk of (re)starting a religious war on this forum, MLV and mat perform different tasks and you need both (+ isolating foam) to achieve a quiet cab. Mat stops vibration, MLV stops sound transmission.
The sound deadener showdown site explains all of this. Flame away... |
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
Agree agree and agree. Good luck on your search for MLV.
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
Apparently! I figured you were trying to do the same thing with both.... I've never even heard of MLV before and thought it was a cheaper alternative to the dynamats/hushmats, etc.. etc...
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
both home depot and lowes sell a roofing material that is made of a sticky tar and comes in rolls. Its pretty cheap. I used it in place of an MLV type material. I'm sure the roofing material is not near as good as a true MLV, but it serves the same purpose since it is a heavier material. I used this roofing material on my cab floor and on my gas tank.
In addition to the roofing material, they also carry some 1' wide rolls of AC duct foam insulation. This is a closed cell foam with a foil backing, sticky on one side. All in all, I got about $60 bucks in it and it made a huge difference. |
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
This is around the same price as on the sound deadener showdown website but with free shipping
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
I suppose it would have been better to submit a link
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
Haha I knew someone was going to comment on that
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
For you California guys, I just found this site and ordered a 25' roll.
http://www.supersoundproofingsales.c...V/products/28/
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
I understand why you disagree, maybe i wasnt clear.
The combination of the roofing material and the closed cell foam provides some of the same characterstics of MLV, but as I mentioned is not as good as true MLV. The roofing material provides both mass to surfaces prone to vibrate, reducing the transmission of road noise, and when applied uniformly creates the type of barrier. Add closed cell foam on top of it to give further noise absorbtion and a thicker barrier, as well as, the foil backing will help with thermal transfer. The OP was asking for a cheap solution, which I provided. Sorry if anyone misinterpretted my comments as comparing MLV to home depot materials. |
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
I read about MLV. I thought I was missing something but you guys ARE just using it for sound damping and noise control. Dynamat/hushmat is more expensive for a reason- its way easier and faster to put on. Cut, peel and stick. Done deal.... And as thin as it is I'd think it'd be much easier to put the interior back together. I had a real PITA trying to get my gas pedal back in the truck with all the sound deadening material I put in my truck...
http://shop.hushmat.com/p/hushmat-ul...t-silver?pp=12 I've got a completely gutted suburban waiting for fedex to drop this off this afternoon. Got it on Amazon for $239 shipped. Too each his own but I like this stuff and its worth the extra money to me for as easy as it is to use.
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Re: Mass Loaded Vinyl locally?
I did what dznucks dicribed on my 69 Fastback Mustang. I had extra roofing material (I think it was called snow and ice from Lowes) and bought the silver insulation. Mine didn't have adhesive backing so I just used spray adhesive. Seemed to work well and I did it for under $100. Is it the best? Hard to know without a good way to test.
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