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matthufham · 03-19-2006, 06:10 PM

i installed my grant gt steering wheel a couple months ago and it was the weirdest install i've done. i knew ahead of time the horn would go off the first time i connected the battery and of course, it did. so that event led me to tear up my column, since i needed to tighten some of the slack, and i thought i'd revisit the horn issue.

basically as the instructions say, put the canceling cam (which is also the part that contacts the horn button) on top of the horn spring loaded pin, then put the adapter for the wheel on top and bolt it down, essentially activating the horn by bolting it down. then run a pin with a wire and some other bs up to the horn cap on the wheel which does nothing for me. so has anyone installed a grant wheel, AND gotten the horn to function correctly? is there something i need to do to get it working?

matthufham · 03-19-2006, 06:17 PM

some pics of the worthless install book, the english sides

LUV2XCLR8 · 03-19-2006, 06:45 PM

Had 2 of these wheels, horn never worked w/ either

alf1096 · 03-19-2006, 07:03 PM

mine works fine

The cardboard piece that the wire connects to.....it goes and snaps in the horn button and the spring holds the horn button up from touching any metal...you have to make sure the cardboard is snapped in the horn button

HotRod71 · 03-19-2006, 07:19 PM

I have had 2 also and my horn always works. I followed those instructions to the letter and had no problem.

LUV2XCLR8 · 03-19-2006, 07:22 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, maybe my horns never worked to begin with?

Longhorn Man · 03-19-2006, 07:36 PM

it's been years since I messed with a grant wheel, but my horn always worked on them.

**pjmoreland** · 03-19-2006, 08:15 PM

I had a Grant steering wheel, and I found it particularly difficult to keep the brass plunger, spring, wire, and plastic cap down in that plastic tube on the cancelling cam while installing the "Post Cover" over it. I found that it worked well to put all the little components down in the plastic tube, fish the wire through the hole in the Post Cover, and then insert a slender screwdriver through the hole in the Post Cover to hold the little components in while sliding the Post Cover into place.

If the brass plunger or the spring are allowed to touch the Hub at all, your horn will blast all the time, like you experienced.

matthufham · 03-19-2006, 08:48 PM

the problem was i put the spring in the plunger instead of plunger on top of spring. there fore the plunger touched the hub. i think another problem would be not snapping the cap on the cardboard right. well i guess i should of started by saying i fixed it and blasted the horn a couple times. thanks guys, now my steering column's done except for the play in the old shifter, but that problem's on the firewall where a wire holds it in park while i use a floor shift.

Rollie396 · 03-20-2006, 12:12 AM

I've got an APC wheel (same thing though) and I managed to get the horn to work by modifying the little plastic spacer from the original wheel.I found out that the horn is a lot louder than you realize when the hood is open and your head is sticking in compartment hooking up the battery.

*MisterMan* · 03-20-2006, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollie396

I've got an APC wheel (same thing though) and I managed to get the horn to work by modifying the little plastic spacer from the original wheel.I found out that the horn is a lot louder than you realize when the hood is open and your head is sticking in compartment hooking up the battery.

wow, ur photo album is by far the best ive ever seen.....cant wait to see the end product.

Rollie396 · 03-20-2006, 02:15 AM

hey thanks for the compliment MisterMan!I'm glad you enjoyed it.

70c10 · 03-20-2006, 09:12 AM

My Grant wheel horn has never worked!.

49studebaker · 03-20-2006, 02:51 PM

I've installed a few Grant wheels, the horn always worked but the way the horn cap fits over the "retainer contactor ring" (as the above drawing calls it), was always a bit cheesy. It never seemed like a really functional way to hold it in place. I'm thinking about getting a stock wheel off a 89-92 gm pickup for this very reason.

MrC1 · 03-20-2006, 07:35 PM

I installed a Grant wheel a few months back and had the same problem - the horn was always on. Turned out I pressed the Grant adapter on too far and it bottomed against the factory plate behind it (I'm still not sure how they expect it to NOT short out).

I pulled it back apart, made a custom gasket to insulate the two pieces and now it works great.

03-19-2006, 06:10 PM	#1
matthufham Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Carl Junction, Missouri Posts: 2,061	grant steering wheel questions i installed my grant gt steering wheel a couple months ago and it was the weirdest install i've done. i knew ahead of time the horn would go off the first time i connected the battery and of course, it did. so that event led me to tear up my column, since i needed to tighten some of the slack, and i thought i'd revisit the horn issue. basically as the instructions say, put the canceling cam (which is also the part that contacts the horn button) on top of the horn spring loaded pin, then put the adapter for the wheel on top and bolt it down, essentially activating the horn by bolting it down. then run a pin with a wire and some other bs up to the horn cap on the wheel which does nothing for me. so has anyone installed a grant wheel, AND gotten the horn to function correctly? is there something i need to do to get it working?

03-19-2006, 06:17 PM	#2
matthufham Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Carl Junction, Missouri Posts: 2,061	Re: grant steering wheel questions some pics of the worthless install book, the english sides Attached Images Last edited by matthufham; 03-19-2006 at 06:18 PM.

03-19-2006, 06:45 PM	#3
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,476	Re: grant steering wheel questions Had 2 of these wheels, horn never worked w/ either __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

03-19-2006, 07:03 PM	#4
alf1096 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 124	Re: grant steering wheel questions mine works fine The cardboard piece that the wire connects to.....it goes and snaps in the horn button and the spring holds the horn button up from touching any metal...you have to make sure the cardboard is snapped in the horn button __________________ 1970 Short Stepside----Process of Restoring 1983 1/2 Silverado

03-19-2006, 07:19 PM	#5
HotRod71 Short, Fleet, Slammed, V8 Club Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kingsport,TN Posts: 450	Re: grant steering wheel questions I have had 2 also and my horn always works. I followed those instructions to the letter and had no problem. __________________ Bill 71 Chevy SWB Fleetside (WIP) www.4x4grace.com

03-19-2006, 07:22 PM	#6
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,476	Re: grant steering wheel questions Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, maybe my horns never worked to begin with? __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

03-19-2006, 07:36 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: grant steering wheel questions it's been years since I messed with a grant wheel, but my horn always worked on them.

03-19-2006, 08:15 PM	#8
pjmoreland Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CA Posts: 5,426	Re: grant steering wheel questions I had a Grant steering wheel, and I found it particularly difficult to keep the brass plunger, spring, wire, and plastic cap down in that plastic tube on the cancelling cam while installing the "Post Cover" over it. I found that it worked well to put all the little components down in the plastic tube, fish the wire through the hole in the Post Cover, and then insert a slender screwdriver through the hole in the Post Cover to hold the little components in while sliding the Post Cover into place. If the brass plunger or the spring are allowed to touch the Hub at all, your horn will blast all the time, like you experienced.

03-19-2006, 08:48 PM	#9
matthufham Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Carl Junction, Missouri Posts: 2,061	Re: grant steering wheel questions the problem was i put the spring in the plunger instead of plunger on top of spring. there fore the plunger touched the hub. i think another problem would be not snapping the cap on the cardboard right. well i guess i should of started by saying i fixed it and blasted the horn a couple times. thanks guys, now my steering column's done except for the play in the old shifter, but that problem's on the firewall where a wire holds it in park while i use a floor shift.

03-20-2006, 12:12 AM	#10
Rollie396 someday it will be done! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lloydminster,AB. Canada Posts: 1,620	Re: grant steering wheel questions I've got an APC wheel (same thing though) and I managed to get the horn to work by modifying the little plastic spacer from the original wheel.I found out that the horn is a lot louder than you realize when the hood is open and your head is sticking in compartment hooking up the battery. __________________ '72 C-10 Proud owner of a million new and used pieces that used to be and will once again be(god willing) a testament to the term "they don't build em like that anymore. '80 LWB 2wd beater '67 GMC long fleet (cab donor) '66 long step (parked till it's turn comes around) '65 short step (parts truck that will donate it's bed and possibly frame to the '66) '06 Grand Prix wife's car (she hardly lets me touch it) my pics

03-20-2006, 02:15 AM	#12
Rollie396 someday it will be done! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lloydminster,AB. Canada Posts: 1,620	Re: grant steering wheel questions hey thanks for the compliment MisterMan!I'm glad you enjoyed it. __________________ '72 C-10 Proud owner of a million new and used pieces that used to be and will once again be(god willing) a testament to the term "they don't build em like that anymore. '80 LWB 2wd beater '67 GMC long fleet (cab donor) '66 long step (parked till it's turn comes around) '65 short step (parts truck that will donate it's bed and possibly frame to the '66) '06 Grand Prix wife's car (she hardly lets me touch it) my pics

03-20-2006, 09:12 AM	#13
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,857	Re: grant steering wheel questions My Grant wheel horn has never worked!. __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

03-20-2006, 02:51 PM	#14
49studebaker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Victor, Montana Posts: 386	Re: grant steering wheel questions I've installed a few Grant wheels, the horn always worked but the way the horn cap fits over the "retainer contactor ring" (as the above drawing calls it), was always a bit cheesy. It never seemed like a really functional way to hold it in place. I'm thinking about getting a stock wheel off a 89-92 gm pickup for this very reason. __________________ 04 4x4 GMC Ext. Cab lifted 71 2wd GMC / Ramjet 350 ready for sheet metal 49 Studebaker pickup

03-20-2006, 07:35 PM	#15
MrC1 Dork For Days Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 407	Re: grant steering wheel questions I installed a Grant wheel a few months back and had the same problem - the horn was always on. Turned out I pressed the Grant adapter on too far and it bottomed against the factory plate behind it (I'm still not sure how they expect it to NOT short out). I pulled it back apart, made a custom gasket to insulate the two pieces and now it works great. __________________ 1972 C20, 402/700R4 - My first classic truck, bought in September 2005. 85% transformed from "Farm" to "Cool" status! 1970 Dodge Challenger 440, 4sp (my other toy) 12.67 @ 117 MPH, with a pathetic 2.022 60' 2007 Dodge Charger SRT-8 2008 Cadillac CTS All-American garage, baby!

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