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**Jokers69** · 11-16-2008, 01:24 PM

I was having problems tring to find full length headers with 1 3/4 primary tube that would not hang below the framerails with sbc. So I got with a local header shop and made a proto-type set and are now ready for production. We use heavy wall 14 gage steel tubing (.083) thick, 3/8" thick laser cut flanges, 14 gage tubing for our collectors and take great pride in our finish work. All of our headers are fully welded around each primary tube on both sides of the flange. This gives the header a more "finished" appearance, reduces areas for rust to start and adds superior strength. We hand finish each port and machine the face of the flange flat to fully seat to the head as well as insuring there is no reduction in flow. We offer all flange options but have found the ball/socket connection to be the best all-a-round connection. They offer a leak-free seal without the use of a gasket, allow for some movement and adjustability during the install and they are much more reliable than a flat flange. Primary tube sizes are available in 1 5/8" or 1 3/4", depending on the power/torque specs of the engine. They are $550.00 bare and $865.00 CHROMEX ceramic coating plus shipping. Here are some pictures and I will post more when I get them back from coating.

**Jokers69** · 11-16-2008, 01:30 PM

More pictures

c10crazy · 11-16-2008, 05:48 PM

Nice job! They look like they are modeled after Hedman. Will the finished product have the tubes dented in at the bolt locations or is this just because it's a prototype?

**Jokers69** · 11-16-2008, 06:55 PM

They will be clearenced on 1 3/4 and very little on 1 5/8

Mudder · 11-16-2008, 10:57 PM

How are they getting to the plugs?

**Jokers69** · 11-16-2008, 11:52 PM

You have great plug access.You can run straight boot spark plug wires on all cylinders but #6 it requires a 90 degree boot.

bigsnookmaster · 11-17-2008, 06:13 PM

Those are very nice looking headers.I've built several sets over the years.They look like they're easy access to the plugs,and I like the 14gu. tubes,and the 3/8" flanges are nice. Seems to be a very fair price for the quality of the product.These headers coated will most likely last the life of the truck.

**Jokers69** · 11-17-2008, 06:43 PM

Thanks, They are very well built and no problems with them ever hitting the ground.

LUV2XCLR8 · 11-17-2008, 06:46 PM

Nice

**Jokers69** · 11-19-2008, 11:53 PM

These will not work on manual transmission with factory clutch linkage. The headers tubes will not fit around the clutch linkage.

**Jokers69** · 11-24-2008, 10:46 PM

Here they are coated.

TCASON · 11-26-2008, 11:56 AM

These are WICKED!! Can not wait tell my set go onto my truck

larry may · 11-28-2008, 02:14 PM

For these headers I ordered a set for my ole heap . Steve said be here in a week or so. Am looking forward to recieving these and getting them installed. I ordered the 1 3/4 coated headers.

NWD02 · 11-29-2008, 02:07 AM

Awesome, very impressive.

larry may · 12-01-2008, 03:14 PM

One more thing that makes this intriguing to me . Is that these are home grown. I paid ten years ago 610 dolars for Ceramic coated tuned Hookers for a 67 Camaro. The headers have been in side all their lives.In less that 4 years The Cramic has bubbled peeled, rust has come forward and ceramic is flaking off. I do not believe Steve will shanghi a customer with poop quality merchandise. Gotta try the homies one time.Oh I bought these Hookers from Summit!

**Jokers69** · 12-02-2008, 01:23 AM

Thanks Larry, all headers are top quality and all coating is done by Performance Coatings. I'm Running the same product on my truck.

*edin355* · 12-02-2008, 08:53 AM

Any idea on clearance problems for AC compressor? edin355

larry may · 12-02-2008, 12:42 PM

Edin 355 I 'm not running an AC unit. From the above pictures looks like they would work together. Not sure.

**Jokers69** · 12-02-2008, 06:32 PM

I pretty sure they will have no problems with a\c compressor. But I also Don't have a/c in my truck. I will try to find out.

70k52wd · 12-02-2008, 07:12 PM

Very nice product, you will probably sell a boat load once the news is out...I see that on the pass side your plug wires run between the tubes on 6-8, and you say you use a 90 degree wire on 6. Do you think that 90 wires could be used on all cyl if you were to route the wires in the factory position, behind block, and up past motor mounts?
Also, is this an uncomplicated install, I have a/c, p/s, power disk. Thanks.

**Jokers69** · 12-03-2008, 02:27 PM

There should be no problems with running 90 boots with factory wire routing. It's a pretty easy install Drivers side goes in from the top and passengers goes in from the bottom. I'm running p/s and disc brakes With no booster (big cam) but they will not get in the way of the booster

**Jokers69** · 12-06-2008, 12:55 AM

The factory A/C lower compression bracket off the manifold will not work. We will try to get one made shortly (we got to get a compressor) Thanks Steve

LuckyHenriksen · 12-06-2008, 01:33 AM

Hey if you were to make a set with Gen III flanges I would love one

**Jokers69** · 12-06-2008, 02:11 AM

I will see if that is possible.

**tll74** · 12-06-2008, 03:42 AM

VERY NICE! How about a set for a BB?

11-16-2008, 01:24 PM	#1
Jokers69 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 147	Header Solution I was having problems tring to find full length headers with 1 3/4 primary tube that would not hang below the framerails with sbc. So I got with a local header shop and made a proto-type set and are now ready for production. We use heavy wall 14 gage steel tubing (.083) thick, 3/8" thick laser cut flanges, 14 gage tubing for our collectors and take great pride in our finish work. All of our headers are fully welded around each primary tube on both sides of the flange. This gives the header a more "finished" appearance, reduces areas for rust to start and adds superior strength. We hand finish each port and machine the face of the flange flat to fully seat to the head as well as insuring there is no reduction in flow. We offer all flange options but have found the ball/socket connection to be the best all-a-round connection. They offer a leak-free seal without the use of a gasket, allow for some movement and adjustability during the install and they are much more reliable than a flat flange. Primary tube sizes are available in 1 5/8" or 1 3/4", depending on the power/torque specs of the engine. They are $550.00 bare and $865.00 CHROMEX ceramic coating plus shipping. Here are some pictures and I will post more when I get them back from coating. Attached Images Last edited by Jokers69; 07-11-2010 at 03:13 PM. Reason: ceramic coating price increase

11-16-2008, 01:30 PM	#2
Jokers69 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 147	Re: Header Solution More pictures Attached Images Last edited by Jokers69; 11-16-2008 at 01:31 PM.

11-16-2008, 05:48 PM	#3
c10crazy Like a Rock! Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,092	Re: Header Solution Nice job! They look like they are modeled after Hedman. Will the finished product have the tubes dented in at the bolt locations or is this just because it's a prototype? __________________ 69 LWB Runs great - work in progress Mess with me and you mess with the whole trailer park!

11-16-2008, 06:55 PM	#4
Jokers69 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 147	Re: Header Solution They will be clearenced on 1 3/4 and very little on 1 5/8 Last edited by Jokers69; 11-17-2008 at 12:09 PM.

11-16-2008, 10:57 PM	#5
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	Re: Header Solution How are they getting to the plugs?

11-16-2008, 11:52 PM	#6
Jokers69 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 147	Re: Header Solution You have great plug access.You can run straight boot spark plug wires on all cylinders but #6 it requires a 90 degree boot.

11-17-2008, 06:13 PM	#7
bigsnookmaster Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: St.Petersburg,Fl Posts: 1,267	Re: Header Solution Those are very nice looking headers.I've built several sets over the years.They look like they're easy access to the plugs,and I like the 14gu. tubes,and the 3/8" flanges are nice. Seems to be a very fair price for the quality of the product.These headers coated will most likely last the life of the truck. __________________ greg http://community.webshots.com/user/68406Stepside

11-17-2008, 06:43 PM	#8
Jokers69 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 147	Re: Header Solution Thanks, They are very well built and no problems with them ever hitting the ground.

11-17-2008, 06:46 PM	#9
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,468	Re: Header Solution Nice __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

11-19-2008, 11:53 PM	#10
Jokers69 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 147	Re: Header Solution These will not work on manual transmission with factory clutch linkage. The headers tubes will not fit around the clutch linkage.

11-24-2008, 10:46 PM	#11
Jokers69 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 147	Re: Header Solution Here they are coated. Attached Images

11-26-2008, 11:56 AM	#12
TCASON Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Wa Posts: 46	Re: Header Solution These are WICKED!! Can not wait tell my set go onto my truck

11-28-2008, 02:14 PM	#13
larry may Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: MISSOURI Posts: 3,256	Re: Header Solution For these headers I ordered a set for my ole heap . Steve said be here in a week or so. Am looking forward to recieving these and getting them installed. I ordered the 1 3/4 coated headers. __________________ The biggest problem people have, is other people Thou shalt be cool and not hassle Be a site supporter. The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool inclines to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2

11-29-2008, 02:07 AM	#14
NWD02 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mont Belvieu, Texas Posts: 729	Re: Header Solution Awesome, very impressive.

12-01-2008, 03:14 PM	#15
larry may Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: MISSOURI Posts: 3,256	Re: Header Solution One more thing that makes this intriguing to me . Is that these are home grown. I paid ten years ago 610 dolars for Ceramic coated tuned Hookers for a 67 Camaro. The headers have been in side all their lives.In less that 4 years The Cramic has bubbled peeled, rust has come forward and ceramic is flaking off. I do not believe Steve will shanghi a customer with poop quality merchandise. Gotta try the homies one time.Oh I bought these Hookers from Summit! __________________ The biggest problem people have, is other people Thou shalt be cool and not hassle Be a site supporter. The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool inclines to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2



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12-02-2008, 01:23 AM	#16
Jokers69 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 147	Re: Header Solution Thanks Larry, all headers are top quality and all coating is done by Performance Coatings. I'm Running the same product on my truck.

12-02-2008, 08:53 AM	#17
edin355 Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: jEFFERSON cITY mO. Posts: 130	Re: Header Solution Any idea on clearance problems for AC compressor? edin355

12-02-2008, 12:42 PM	#18
larry may Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: MISSOURI Posts: 3,256	Re: Header Solution Edin 355 I 'm not running an AC unit. From the above pictures looks like they would work together. Not sure. __________________ The biggest problem people have, is other people Thou shalt be cool and not hassle Be a site supporter. The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool inclines to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2

12-02-2008, 06:32 PM	#19
Jokers69 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 147	Re: Header Solution I pretty sure they will have no problems with a\c compressor. But I also Don't have a/c in my truck. I will try to find out.

12-02-2008, 07:12 PM	#20
70k52wd Blaze-Air Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,117	Re: Header Solution Very nice product, you will probably sell a boat load once the news is out...I see that on the pass side your plug wires run between the tubes on 6-8, and you say you use a 90 degree wire on 6. Do you think that 90 wires could be used on all cyl if you were to route the wires in the factory position, behind block, and up past motor mounts? Also, is this an uncomplicated install, I have a/c, p/s, power disk. Thanks.

12-03-2008, 02:27 PM	#21
Jokers69 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 147	Re: Header Solution There should be no problems with running 90 boots with factory wire routing. It's a pretty easy install Drivers side goes in from the top and passengers goes in from the bottom. I'm running p/s and disc brakes With no booster (big cam) but they will not get in the way of the booster

12-06-2008, 12:55 AM	#22
Jokers69 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 147	Re: Header Solution The factory A/C lower compression bracket off the manifold will not work. We will try to get one made shortly (we got to get a compressor) Thanks Steve

12-06-2008, 01:33 AM	#23
LuckyHenriksen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sherwood Oregon Posts: 1,908	Re: Header Solution Hey if you were to make a set with Gen III flanges I would love one __________________ 1968 Yenko Chevy LWB 6.0L/TH400 3/4 Drop Senior Project Build Thread Here

12-06-2008, 02:11 AM	#24
Jokers69 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 147	Re: Header Solution I will see if that is possible.

12-06-2008, 03:42 AM	#25
tll74 "Junkyard Dog" Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Springfield Oregon Posts: 2,527	Re: Header Solution VERY NICE! How about a set for a BB? __________________ 72 C-10 Cheyenne Super LWB, Vortec 427,TH700, 3.73 posi, tach, tilt, AM-FM,Frame off in process. http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/l...t=7eae161e.pbw 88 Monte Carlo SS bought new only 10k miles. 73 Chevelle SS 454 had since high school. 74 Camaro Z28 350 AT numbers matching, Black on Black. 73 El Camino SS 350 4sp. 70 Chevelle SS 396 4sp, number matching with LS6 454 69 Chevy C30 Car Hauler 86 K20 383 4sp 4" lift frame off restoration. http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/l...t=1b1082d3.pbw

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