Early X-mas! 6.0 L96+6L90

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by rs74

Does Ididit column company not custom make columns for these applications?
I just sent them a question about this. Said 24 to 48 hours to respond but I am guessing the first of the week now that it is friday.

I hadn't heard that. It would be pretty cool to have it on the column.

Originally Posted by jrdv

Thanks! I hope to get started soon!



That seems easy enough! Did you already send your harness to Speartech. If you don't mind...how much $? You can pm me.


I haven't seen one advertised, but that doesn't mean they don't have one.

I haven't ordered one yet. I'm still trying to figure out what I'm going to delete (AFM??/VVT??). I'm not sure if I'm going to use the factory harness or have him build me an entirely new one. I believe the harnesses run around $900 (no computer tune) for all new wiring or around $600 for one you send in. Call John and talk to him. He's real good guy and very knowledgable.

Have you decided on the motor mounts you're going to use? Do you want to add my Camaro/LS3 intake to your motor????

[jrdv]

Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

I hadn't heard that. It would be pretty cool to have it on the column.



I haven't ordered one yet. I'm still trying to figure out what I'm going to delete (AFM??/VVT??). I'm not sure if I'm going to use the factory harness or have him build me an entirely new one. I believe the harnesses run around $900 (no computer tune) for all new wiring or around $600 for one you send in. Call John and talk to him. He's real good guy and very knowledgable.

Have you decided on the motor mounts you're going to use? Do you want to add my Camaro/LS3 intake to your motor????

I'm not sure what all I should delete either? I'm not building quite the hot rod you are, so I'll probably do what the tuner recommends.

I'm going to try the ECE mounts for now since I already have them. I'll mock it up on the bare frame and see how much they might need to be modified. I'm thinking I could use some of the other aftermarket LS plates and the ECE stands if I decide the motor needs to be moved back.
Problem is that I would like to leave the AC in the stock location.

I am interested in your old worn out intake!!!!!!!! Let me know if you decide to part with the greasy old thing!

John

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by jrdv

I'm not sure what all I should delete either? I'm not building quite the hot rod you are, so I'll probably do what the tuner recommends.

I'm going to try the ECE mounts for now since I already have them. I'll mock it up on the bare frame and see how much they might need to be modified. I'm thinking I could use some of the other aftermarket LS plates and the ECE stands if I decide the motor needs to be moved back.
Problem is that I would like to leave the AC in the stock location.

I am interested in your old worn out intake!!!!!!!! Let me know if you decide to part with the greasy old thing!

John

Your motor shouldn't have DOD/AFM and I don't think you will have to remove the VVT. I'm only doing that because I'm installing the supercharger. Holley makes a really nice bracket that moves the a/c up top that looks factory if you decide to move it.

http://www.holley.com/AppTypes/LS%20...y%20Drives.asp

The dirty/nasty intake is for sale to include fuel rail and injectors. I would not order a FI harness until everything else is in place so John can customize it to match your setup.

[jrdv]

Thanks for the bracket link.

I just ordered the CTS v oil pan kit and the DT headers!

Have you decided on a price?
Do you know if there are any other changes that need to be made for the intake swap. It should just be a bolt on and tune......right?

[rs74]

Okay I received this back from Ididit Columns. There is nothing for the newer six speeds evidently but this is what he said about the four speed autos. I know this doesn't pertain to your application but thought I would share.

"we do make retro columns for the 60 thru 66 chevy truck and a retro column for 1967 thru 72 , we do offer them in a retro column shifter version, however we do not have the cable kits to make them work , lokar does offer a cable kit for the 4l80 to work with a 2" or a 2 1/4 " gm original or a gm style aftermarket column, the footnote says for short selector shaft version of the 4l80 trans, the 6l90 is too new for any info, hope this helps"

[jrdv]

Thanks for the leg work!

I'm sure they will come out with a 6L90 application.....just as soon as I get this project finished!

John

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by jrdv

Thanks for the bracket link.

I just ordered the CTS v oil pan kit and the DT headers!

Have you decided on a price?
Do you know if there are any other changes that need to be made for the intake swap. It should just be a bolt on and tune......right?

As far as I know, it's a pretty straight swap. I would do some searching on LS1 Tech to find out for sure. PM sent.

[C10_ustacould]

Could you two, jrdv and Hart_Rod, please get a move on we want to see how this story plays out!

[jrdv]

Originally Posted by BucksSS

Could you two, jrdv and Hart_Rod, please get a move on we want to see how this story plays out!

Patience grasshopper! Good things come to those who wait!

I've got parts coming from the brown santa..............

[C10_ustacould]

Originally Posted by jrdv

Patience grasshopper! Good things come to those who wait!

I've got parts coming from the brown santa..............

I'll be watching for updates!
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[C10_ustacould]

Still watching...

[jrdv]

Originally Posted by BucksSS

I'll be watching for updates!
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Originally Posted by BucksSS

Still watching...

I had a feeling that I was being watched all last month!

I'm ready to start, just have a few other repairs to do on a work truck.

(i'm actually waiting for Rob so I can just copy what he does)

Maybe I'll see you in a month or so.

John

[raic65]

Originally Posted by rs74

Okay I received this back from Ididit Columns. There is nothing for the newer six speeds evidently but this is what he said about the four speed autos. I know this doesn't pertain to your application but thought I would share.

"we do make retro columns for the 60 thru 66 chevy truck and a retro column for 1967 thru 72 , we do offer them in a retro column shifter version, however we do not have the cable kits to make them work , lokar does offer a cable kit for the 4l80 to work with a 2" or a 2 1/4 " gm original or a gm style aftermarket column, the footnote says for short selector shaft version of the 4l80 trans, the 6l90 is too new for any info, hope this helps"

I actually used their retrofit column and 700r4 cable kit in my swap. My 6L90 has detents that match a 4 speed which surprised me. Not sure if all 6L90s are like that though. May want to check.
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[jrdv]

Originally Posted by raic65

I actually used their retrofit column and 700r4 cable kit in my swap. My 6L90 has detents that match a 4 speed which surprised me. Not sure if all 6L90s are like that though. May want to check.
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Thanks!!!

That is good to know.

John

[jrdv]

Dang! Had to go back 3 pages to find this thread. Somebody been slacken!

Got a little done today. Motor mounts and trans mount put in.

Edit " yes the trans mount is backward.....took picture before figureing that one out.......MUST LOOK AT PICTURE IN DIRECTIONS"!

[jrdv]

Got motor stripped down and set in. Test fit Doug Thorley headers.
Clearances are excellent! Only problem is plug wires all touch on passenger side.
Frame trimmed to clear power steering res. and air conditioner.

[jrdv]

Gonna have to do some fabrication to make trans mount work.
Motor needs to move back about 2 inches. If I do that, I can drill trans mount holes through the main cross member and do away with the original tab. Should be a stronger mount anyway.

I am thinking about getting the DD mounts and cutting up the ECE mounting plates, then the welding the DD mount in order to get the difference I need. Any thoughts?

I have to get some 6 inch drop springs bought so I can check driveline angle before I do anything else.

Good news is that I may not have to change oil pan. Clearance looks really good!
Could be because this is out of a 2wd and the pan is shorter?

[jrdv]

This is my latest reason for the delay.

My needed wife needed one of these for her B-Day.

68 VW Karmann Ghia.

[jrdv]

A few extra pics I took. The first one is hard to see, but it shows how low the oil pan is compared to the crossmember.

I think if I can move motor back 1.5 to 2 inches, then I can use the stock fan. I put the radiator mount on and I think I have enough clearance...

[Hart_Rod]

Great progress! You'll need to get some MSD spark plug wires for those headers (I have the part number in my burb thread). If you slide the motor back, what motor mounts are you going to use?

EDIT: just saw the comment about the DD mounts, I think that will be a good way to go. Also, your pan clearance looks good..

[jrdv]

Thanks Rob. I thought you had different plug wires, but I hadn't gone back to check yet.

I may still swap out the pan just to gain a little extra clearance. Probably won't matter cause the trans pan has about has about the same clearance.....maybe I should just save the caddy pan for another day!

Thanks for the driveshaft! We'll get it figured out.

I ordered some drop springs and spindles for this chassis today. Guess I'll have to put the CPP suspension parts on soon.

My nephew suggested just getting this frame set up, painted, etc, and putting the white cab and bed on this frame. Something to ponder!

John

[C10_ustacould]

Progress looks great! Just a note on your rear trans mount. If you move to the top of the main square tube crossmember you may have to do some triming in the trans tunnel. I raised mine too high and it hit the cab making all kinds of racket. If you have a high hump you should be fine.

[jrdv]

Originally Posted by BucksSS

Progress looks great! Just a note on your rear trans mount. If you move to the top of the main square tube crossmember you may have to do some triming in the trans tunnel. I raised mine too high and it hit the cab making all kinds of racket. If you have a high hump you should be fine.

Thanks Buck,

I hadn't considered that!

John