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Old 11-26-2012, 06:44 PM   #1
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Early X-mas! 6.0 L96+6L90

I bit the bullet and bought this today. It is out of a 2011 2500 2wd with 19,000 mi. It will be going in my 71 chev swb.

I need to start gathering parts. The place I bought it from didn't know which oil pan I needed, but said to find out and they would get me one at cost.

So, first question. What oil pan? I have seen people using an F body pan, ctsv caddy pan, summit pans, etc.

My truck has a 4/6 drop with 18/20 wheel combo.

What is the best?

Thanks in advance for the many questions I will be asking.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:03 PM   #2
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Re: Early X-mas! 6.0 L96+6L90

Ctsv for me fit perfect bottom of pan was about 1/4 inch above crossmember. My truck is also 4/6.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:14 PM   #3
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Ctsv for me fit perfect bottom of pan was about 1/4 inch above crossmember. My truck is also 4/6.
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Does the year matter? Did you buy new or used? Cost?

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Old 11-26-2012, 08:26 PM   #4
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Re: Early X-mas! 6.0 L96+6L90

GM swap pan http://www.summitracing.com/parts/nal-19212593
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:36 PM   #5
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I checked into that earlier. It only covers 6.0 up to 2009. I can't find any other info on the 2011 as far as oil pan swaps go. I don't know for sure if there are any differences.

Thanks for the input!

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Old 11-26-2012, 08:53 PM   #6
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I checked into that earlier. It only covers 6.0 up to 2009. I can't find any other info on the 2011 as far as oil pan swaps go. I don't know for sure if there are any differences.

Thanks for the input!

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I put a '02 5.3L truck pan on a '11 6.2L LS3 a few months back, Worked great.
The list is not complete.
Not sure on AFM (active fuel management) engines though, Does the L96 have AFM?
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:06 PM   #7
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Re: Early X-mas! 6.0 L96+6L90

That's gonna be pretty sweet!
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:11 PM   #8
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Re: Early X-mas! 6.0 L96+6L90

I used an f-body pan on mine.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:45 PM   #9
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I put a '02 5.3L truck pan on a '11 6.2L LS3 a few months back, Worked great.
The list is not complete.
Not sure on AFM (active fuel management) engines though, Does the L96 have AFM?
I am not sure???????? Will have to check on that.

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That's gonna be pretty sweet!
Thanks Rob!

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I used an f-body pan on mine.
Is yours a 2011? The are a few differences over the older GenIV motors, like injectors, intake and exhaust valve material (for E85). I am just wanting to be positive that there were no changes to the oil pan or oil pickup, etc.

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Old 11-26-2012, 09:47 PM   #10
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I put a '02 5.3L truck pan on a '11 6.2L LS3 a few months back, Worked great.
The list is not complete.
Not sure on AFM (active fuel management) engines though, Does the L96 have AFM?
Would that have to do with it being a returnless fuel injection system?
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:50 PM   #11
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Would that have to do with it being a returnless fuel injection system?
No, AFM engines have a AFM valve in the oil pan 1 in the pic.
It does not appear that the L96 is not AFM...but does have VVT, So the pan will fit.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:54 PM   #12
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Re: Early X-mas! 6.0 L96+6L90

Thanks Cline,
Do you have any other advice for this swap?

I am from the Old School and don't have much experience with any motors requireing a computer!

I have spent quite a bit of time on LS1tech, but not much info on the L96 and 6L90 over there.

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Old 11-27-2012, 01:59 AM   #13
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Re: Early X-mas! 6.0 L96+6L90

06-08 pan tried to buy used but the wrecking yards laughed at me paid around 280/300 new heres how it looks in my truck
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:16 AM   #14
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Re: Early X-mas! 6.0 L96+6L90

I am using a 98 corvette pan. Seems to be the only one that doesn't even come close to hanging down below the K member.
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Thanks Cline,
Do you have any other advice for this swap?

I am from the Old School and don't have much experience with any motors requireing a computer!

I have spent quite a bit of time on LS1tech, but not much info on the L96 and 6L90 over there.

Thanks
John
What motor mounts do you plan on using?
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:16 PM   #16
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Re: Early X-mas! 6.0 L96+6L90

Thanks Dan and Smoke! Appreciate the input.

Rob,
I bought the ECE motor mounts and trans mount last year. Not sure if they will be a straight forward setup for this combo. Will probably do a test fit on a bare frame I have and see what kind of mods I will need to do.

The motor should be here sometime next week....I hope.

Getting excited about this project, but I have a long ways to go as far as getting all the parts!

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Thanks Dan and Smoke! Appreciate the input.

Rob,
I bought the ECE motor mounts and trans mount last year. Not sure if they will be a straight forward setup for this combo. Will probably do a test fit on a bare frame I have and see what kind of mods I will need to do.

The motor should be here sometime next week....I hope.

Getting excited about this project, but I have a long ways to go as far as getting all the parts!

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John,

I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product, let me know if you have any questions. If you use the ECE mounts you won't be able to use a FBody oil pan (it hits the front crossmember). I used a 2007 Cadillac CTsV pan, but there are several choices out there. The Doug Thorley Headers work well with those mounts also. You can check out my Suburban build thread for pictures of both.

Here's a good thread on choosing an oil pan:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=272174

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Old 11-27-2012, 10:28 PM   #18
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Re: Early X-mas! 6.0 L96+6L90

Thanks Rob.

I bought the mounts with plans to put a 5.3 and 4L60 into a 68 GMC. I may just save the mounts for that project.

What do you think about the DirtyDingo mounts?

I had planned on using the same headers that you did. If I get mine running before the burb is done.....can I use the supercharger for a little while?

I will probably have a lot of questions for you when I get further into the swap.

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Thanks Rob.

I bought the mounts with plans to put a 5.3 and 4L60 into a 68 GMC. I may just save the mounts for that project.

What do you think about the DirtyDingo mounts?

I had planned on using the same headers that you did. If I get mine running before the burb is done.....can I use the supercharger for a little while?

I will probably have a lot of questions for you when I get further into the swap.

John
I'm thinking of using the Dirty Dingo mounts on my 68. I'm going to be installing a 6.0/4L80E (unless I come across a setup like yours, ). I like the adjustability and would like to move the motor a little further back than the ECE mounts do. I picked up a Maggie TVS1900 for the 68, I could probably loan it to you for a while....

EDIT: Who did you get your motor/tranny from?
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:50 PM   #20
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Re: Early X-mas! 6.0 L96+6L90

Thanks for the pan link. I did a search earlier, but I must have missed that one! Good info!!!!!!!!

The adjustability might be handy with the DD mounts! I would like to use the stock fan setup instead of electric fans.

The supercharger would be nice to borrow, but I bet you will be ready to use it before me!

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Rob..

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Re: Early X-mas! 6.0 L96+6L90

I'm using ece mounts with electric fans. I don't think it will clear manual fan. When using these mounts with the trans crossmember all my factory holes lined up. Since this is my dd I chose the Holley hooker ls manifolds didn't want to deal with headers even though the thorleys are awesome plus the hookers were cheaper and fit like a glove. Just wanted to share a little info from my recent conversion
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I'm using ece mounts with electric fans. I don't think it will clear manual fan. When using these mounts with the trans crossmember all my factory holes lined up. Since this is my dd I chose the Holley hooker ls manifolds didn't want to deal with headers even though the thorleys are awesome plus the hookers were cheaper and fit like a glove. Just wanted to share a little info from my recent conversion
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Thanks...good to know on the clearance issue. I am open to all ideas, opinions, and experience!

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How much was the motor and trans?
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hope this helps.... Im running the gm muscle car pan it's shallower than the stock truck pans by 1 1/2". I'm guessing the f-body pans are close to the same as the holley pan...
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