Bolt on Rack and pinion

[65Gregg]

I glanced at the website, I couldn't find anything that indicates which waterpump is required.

[aggie91]

Gregg, I looked thru the instructions (from the link posted above) and it has a picture of the power steering pump being mounted to the block. In the picture, the water pump looks to be a short version. It does not say either way in the instructions though....

I would suspect that you could get the power steering mounts to fit either the short or long water pump...

[aggie91]

Rob

Do you think that this mounting kit and rack and pinion would clear the bushing on the lower control arm if the lower arms where from a 73-87 C10? I ask because the bushings are much larger in diameter and I know the rack kit from No Limit does not clear them....

Thanks,

[rob32472]

Yes I beleive it would..... the bolt pattern for the idler may be different and may require some drilling but I dont see an issue otherwise

[robnolimit]

Originally Posted by aggie91

Rob

Do you think that this mounting kit and rack and pinion would clear the bushing on the lower control arm if the lower arms where from a 73-87 C10? I ask because the bushings are much larger in diameter and I know the rack kit from No Limit does not clear them....

Thanks,

It looks like it would clear the stock 73-87 arms OK. This rack is mounted up higher, to have correct geometry with the outer TRE coming in from the top, like the OE. Also, this kit appears to mount the rack a little farther forward, which will give additional clearance. It looks like a nice product. I know what rack it is and they are on the right track. More good parts for C10'ers.

[rob32472]

Originally Posted by 65Gregg

I glanced at the website, I couldn't find anything that indicates which waterpump is required.

Short water pump

[ol_skool_chevy]

i like it but I would like to see how your connecting your steering shaft also..I see its moved inside the frame rail now??

[rob32472]

The steering shaft is moved inside the frame rail and uses a support bracket that bolts on top of the motor mount. Here are some pics of the steering shaft connections.

[INSIDIOUS '86]

Originally Posted by rob32472

The steering shaft is moved inside the frame rail and uses a support bracket that bolts on top of the motor mount. Here are some pics of the steering shaft connections.

Replace those joints as well. The fall part and rattle loose overtime just FYI. My dads superbee with a unisteer did this on the highway. Lucky we caught it.
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[Slammit]

Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS '86

Replace those joints as well. The fall part and rattle loose overtime just FYI. My dads superbee with a unisteer did this on the highway. Lucky we caught it.
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Insidious - Did I just hear you say the Unisteer steering U joints *can* fail rapidly? And if you replaced them - what would you replace them with please?
(See pic for u joints in question)
Thanks for any info for all of us.

[rob32472]

I have had good luck with unisteer u joints in the past. Did the joints fall apart? Set screws come loose?

[wraprail]

Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS '86

Replace those joints as well. The fall part and rattle loose overtime just FYI. My dads superbee with a unisteer did this on the highway. Lucky we caught it.
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Sorry to drag up an old thread but I am installing this in a friends C10 so what rattled loose over time? How much time? Did they actually fall apart?

Thanks

[INSIDIOUS '86]

Glad to see a unlisted product actually work. Look online and search how all of the mopar guys are royally pissed at unisteer
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[Scottshotrods]

We use Uni-steer u-joints on all of our builds in the shop over the last 3 years and have sold several u-joints to our customers.Never had any problems with them at all.

Please explain what problems you have had with them?

Justin

[Slammit]

I'm anxious to hear about this.
IMO...these set screws should have at least Loctite Blue (or similar) and any other screws/nuts up and down the steering shaft and in these bolt on kits that don't have nylon (locking) nuts should be using Loctite Blue.
I'm saying this not knowing if that is even the problem or even if there is a real problem for the C10 installations...

[rob32472]

Originally Posted by Slammit

I'm anxious to hear about this.
IMO...these set screws should have at least Loctite Blue (or similar) and any other screws/nuts up and down the steering shaft and in these bolt on kits that don't have nylon (locking) nuts should be using Loctite Blue.
I'm saying this not knowing if that is even the problem or even if there is a real problem for the C10 installations...

I will agree on the loctite.... the main purpose of the thread and the install was for mock up at this point....... the entire truck will be coming apart soon for paint and powder coat

[crakarjax]

Wow what a difference 4 years makes... the kit is now twice the price at $1700!

http://www.unisteer.com/c10/67-72-ch...inion-kit.html

[dwcsr]

That's the retail on it, You can find it for $1450

[crakarjax]

You're right, $1150 at summit... Still pricey though.

[1moretoy]

Will this work if running bags? Looks like the shafts might hit the frame.

[crakarjax]

Originally Posted by 1moretoy

Will this work if running bags? Looks like the shafts might hit the frame.

A lot of people notch the frame to clear the shafts, but since this one is mounted a bit differently it's hard to tell if that would be necessary.

[robnolimit]

Originally Posted by 1moretoy

Will this work if running bags? Looks like the shafts might hit the frame.

No need to notch the frame, as long as you haven't cut up the stock upper coil pocket (upper bag plate mount) there are no problems.

[crakarjax]

Originally Posted by robnolimit

No need to notch the frame, as long as you haven't cut up the stock upper coil pocket (upper bag plate mount) there are no problems.

Ah right I was thinking about the No Limit kit, which has clearance issues if the crossmember is pancaked or set up into the frame iirc.

This one doesn't have that issue since it's located to the frame, but it looks like it hangs as low as the crossmember such that pancaking the x-member or setting it up into the frame wouldn't gain any clearance, but it's hard to tell give n the angles in the pics. Can anyone confirm that?

[1moretoy]

Originally Posted by robnolimit

No need to notch the frame, as long as you haven't cut up the stock upper coil pocket (upper bag plate mount) there are no problems.

I'm just bag plates and portertbuilt upper and lower control arms.

[crakarjax]

I found this drawing that seems to explain what you were referring to. It seems though that eliminating bumpsteer really depends greatly on the vehicle's spring compression at ride height since that affect the IC. The more I learn about suspension geometry the more it seems like you really need a fully custom solution if you aren't stock!