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Re: Frustrated ...
oh, don't get me wrong.. im extremely grateful for everyone's opinions.. I really do love this stuff.. research, questions, brainstorm , get hands dirty... thats why i have this truck.. i wouldn't dare go into a repair blindly... and i understand those guys may have made a mistake... i mean really its on warrenty and i could just take it back to them (30 min. drive) .. or i can try and figure it out myself... so i'm going to try and figure this one out ... really thanks, i do appreciate everyone's help.. and im sure we all know the frustration we can get from these wives ... i mean trucks of ours... Everyone have a grand Sunday.... and any more opinions or help is much appreciated... i know ill figure this thing.. out its just a matter of time.. thanks
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Re: Frustrated ...
I am new to this site so I had not read your previous posts yet
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Do you have a points distributor or an HEI?
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oh im sorry ... HEI .
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I don't recall but have you replaced the dist cap? Cracked dist cap will cause some random backfiring. Those backfirings can surely make your vacumn lines pop off causing another issue.
There is also a fuel strainer in the gas tank that may be stopping up starving the engine, on high fuel demand.
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The HEI won't have a condensor. The problems that could be likely with HEI is vacuum advance canister (and vacuum line going to it), the ignition module, coil or a cracked cap or rotor, like Boog mentioned. . It could be a bad or missing adavnce spring on the weighs also, but not highly likely. Popping can caused be also from incorrect timing and carb issues. I would start with verifying that the timing is correct and start from there.
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My truck did something like that when I replaced the lifters. I just filled it with gas and flogged it out on the highway. It never happened again, must have been a couple of sticky lifters, probably due to carbon deposits. So what I'm saying basically is try running the balls out of it to clear it up. I'm sure it sounds crude but it worked for me. Also check to make sure all the plug wires clicked in when they were put on because one plug wire can cause some havoc. Good Luck, Tim
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wow, what a difference a day makes... i did take it out for a true test.. and ran the **** outta her... i give her a 95 % ... she did well.. 80 + mph.. and the engine was gettin it done .. She only gets upset when i really smash on it... like from idle to floor... she don't like that .. but i can live with that.. i'd like to clear it up but... if i just ease into the throttle she is a beast...
and a life lesson learned.. patience, faith, and a positive attitude.. things happen. thanks everyone who chimed in for there opinions and advice.. i'm extremely grateful . who knows i may be posting something new tomorrow.. lol gotta love the classics.. i know i do. nate |
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oh and how do you guys make a signature ? for the forum .. and a picture? i messed around for a bit but couldn't find where to go.
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Glad to hear!!...go to user CP and you will probabley figure the rest out as far a pics and such. Just button mash like I do.
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She literally has a mind of her own.. last night .. final run. ran like crap and then wouldn't start ( i think i may have a starter issue)? Morning .. she started fine.. almost like it was the battery, but i know its not. havn't really thought about it yet. And again this morning she ran her ass off.. a little hesitation when i would hit the throttle hard.. but thats it.. and the she was fine.. could smash to the floor and she responded well... about to take her out and see what tday brings... yesterday was 96 degrees and 98% humidity, it was thick and sticky.... that may have been part of the problem with the hesitation..
off to take her out wish me luck and happy monday y'all.
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Hope she ran well for ya today... happy monday back at ya..
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what the update...ow did she run
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He's been gone too long. He may be setting it on fire about now..
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Check the timing. Sounds like the timing is set to high, causing a hard start problem when the engine is hot and a early detonation problem/ping under load.
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i was thinking timing too..... what is it set at teal?
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sorry for the laxidazical response ....
Wish i had good news .. Today started fantastic.. Started right up this morning (after not wanting to start) last night. First drive with her was a short trip and she did everything i asked for. responsive on acceleration even when gears were shifting (save that thought) .. foot to the floor and she was smooth. Next trip the same.. (i was a happy feller then..) Then I went to the store .. and i take the long way.. She is still smokin' .. I'm having a blast with her. I literally go in the store and come out ( a matter of 10 min tops) .. and she was done for the day ... I have to ease into acceleration very slow and when it's about to shift to 2nd to 3rd (i think) ... she wants to blow.. cough pop snap.. so i lay off.. I can ease her up to about 45 mph but if hit the throttle she doesn't like it whatsoever.. It starts at about 30 mph, but i can ease into the throttle to get through ...So i let her sit .. and sit .. and now: i just got back from my daily walk from the gas station down the block and the truck isn't walking with me .. she's at the gas station.. would not start and ran like **** on the way there... I'm going to walk down there in a couple hours and see if she will start .. which means no sleep for me until my girl is home ... And that is a day in the life of 72tealnwhite nate
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oh .. i was messing with the timing before she went to the shop.. so i really don't know what they set it at.... but that may be the next step to start looking ... thanks
have a good night all nate
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1:30am went to get her and she won't start
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I am remembering a time when I had a loose magnetic pickup in my POS HEI (before I threw it away and got MSD). At least I believe that was the part. It's the part below the rotor with "teeth". If this is loose the truck randomly runs like S*** because u get crazy spark scatter with the resulting UNWANTED advancing and retarding. Stick a screwdriver down there and gently make sure it's solid
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Hey, good luck, keep plugging at it, you'll get it sooner or later. LOL.
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Re: Frustrated ...
Tuesday 12 noon ... roadside assistance is towing the truck back to my house. She refuses to start : turn the key and ( vvvvrrrr tick tick tick tick tick tick) ...
![]() I don't have the tools with me today to adjust the timing so i'm kind of stuck.. I 'm going to call the guys who worked on it and lets see what they have to say .... Patience is a virtue.. i guess . Today is a new day .. we will see what the lord has in store. its out of my hands. ![]() nate
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I hope you figure it iut... since it has been somewhat random I think the starting.... tick tick tick may be a different issue than the other described in your thread... I would start with the timing, spark gap, then checking the distri set up. there has been alot of good info given. I think you will get there. I have a similar issue on mine, just built too and mine loves the low end but once you get on it and it gets over 2500 rpm or so it starts to pop and sput and falls off but once you let of and get in her again seems ok... so I will be using the info in this thread to tackle mine.... I know my timing is set at 6, which may be too low and the spark plugs at 40. I do have to get a vacuum diagram and trace mine... after that will check the max fire system on the truck and dist.. then the magnesium in the shaft.... together lets figure these bad boys out... thanks and good luck teal let us know how it unfolds today
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Re: Frustrated ...
sounds like your starter is gone now too. get a high torque mini starter so you don't have to ever mess with it again. First thing I always start with is a brand new battery.
The backfire and jugging sounds like timinig or maybe you crossed spark plug wires. Take the cap off the dizzy and make sure the rotor is ok and hitting all the contacts.
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