PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

75Chevy90Kawi · 08-21-2006, 08:11 PM

i'm gonna drop my truck either 2/4 or 3/5 this winter fall, and am hoping to put on refurbished stock, or near stock wheels ( http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...55#post1787155 ). any help with pictures?

1974gmc · 08-21-2006, 08:55 PM

this is roughly 3/5 drop, cut coils in front and flip in the rear.

steel wheels and caps, 235/75 15's

boxrodz · 08-22-2006, 01:30 AM

psst...
Go with at least 4-6 drop.

Here's an old pic of your ps'ed truck with around a 4-6 drop.
Add some steelies or smoothies like babyblue's ps'ed truck.
'Retro' off the dealership floor.

75Chevy90Kawi · 08-22-2006, 03:27 AM

hhmm.... those smoothies ARE mighty fine lookin... i also like the idea of the wheels being original though. i'm hoping to do a sort of "custom/classic" thing. i would like to shave the handles, and i DEFINATELY need new mirrors, and perhaps shave the handle on the tailgate, all to make it look just a little more smooth, but then i think with the stock wheels (maybe widened in rear? again, cool idea...) and original paint, and a done up but still original looking interior.

and yep, i've still got that pic saved on my computer too... its definately something i'll be keeping for reference...

Slonaker · 08-22-2006, 09:30 AM

Here is mine (2.5/4) with stock rally wheels.

Slonaker

boatpuller · 08-23-2006, 12:31 PM

just a little heads up..i wanted to use stock rally's when i lowered mine.it's a five, seven drop.my a arms rubbed even after grinding the lip.research on the forum showed some get away with it,but i didn't.ended up biting the bullet and getting 17in wheels,and glad i did.

Slonaker · 08-23-2006, 01:27 PM

I used 2.5" Western Chassis drop spindles with 8" Rally wheels. I had no clearance problems, and did not have to do any grinding to make them fit.

Slonaker

75Chevy90Kawi · 08-23-2006, 01:31 PM

boatpuller - i'm not exactly a "pro" with suspension, would this still be a problem (possibly) with a lesser drop? i dont plan on going down to 5/7

boxrodz · 08-23-2006, 02:15 PM

I think boatpuller is referring to the 3" drop spindles. Some have a slight clearance problem between the lip (or gutter) of the LCA and the rim. How much to grind depends on the diameter and backspacing of the rim. As Slon reported, those that use the 2 1/2" spindles don't have this issue. BTW, you could always step up to a 17" rally or smoothie. Although, I'm not sure anyone offers a truck rally in 17".

BTW, a 8" front and 10" rear wheel setup would look nice.

Slonaker · 08-23-2006, 02:16 PM

The best way to get your drop is from spindles because they do not affect suspension travel or geometry. My recommendation is to lower it first with spindles, then use drop springs if you want additional drop.

If you go with a stock wheel less than 8" wide, it might interfere with a 2.5" drop spindle, and definitely will with a 3" drop spindle.

I would suggest (but I am biased) that you go with an 8" Rally wheel in the front with 2.5" Western Chassis spindles. I have zero problems with that combo. You could go with 8" or 10" (aftermarket) Rallys on the back since you said in the other thread you want a wide wheel.

If you plan to go with a narrower 15, like a 6" or 7" wide plain steel wheel, you should probably use drop springs to avoid clearance issues. You will lose suspension travel, though, and be limited to narrow tires if you do.

Slonaker

EDIT: Yeah, what he said...

75Chevy90Kawi · 08-23-2006, 02:18 PM

8" and 10" would avoid clearance problems you think?

Slonaker · 08-23-2006, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75Chevy90Kawi

8" and 10" would avoid clearance problems you think?

They will with Rally wheels or something with the same offset. The 10" rallys are available aftermarket only, but they were available in 6,7, and 8 inch widths factory (I think).

Slonaker

EDIT: This is all assuming you have the 2.5 inch spindles. I am told that the 3" spindles will clear 8" Rallys with some grinding onthe caliper and/or the lower control arm.

When you know what wheels you want, ask around here and see if anyone is running that particular combo so you will know for sure.

boxrodz · 08-23-2006, 02:40 PM

The advantage of aftermarket rallys, is your selections of backspacing. With the proper bs (~5") on a 10" rally, you shouldn't have any clearance problems in the rear. Up front, I'd think you need around a 5" bs on a 8" rally to clear the fender lip.

75Chevy90Kawi · 08-23-2006, 02:44 PM

does anyone know about what the backspacing is on the stock wheels?

boxrodz · 08-23-2006, 02:55 PM

I believe the stock 15x8s have a 4 1/4" bs.

75Chevy90Kawi · 08-23-2006, 08:37 PM

so some 15" smoothies or rallys with 5" backspacing and an 8" in front and 10" in rear huh? and a 5 lug 5" bolt pattern right?

does anyone have any specific wheels they really like that would fit this bill? i've been lookin on summit for a few, and this is the only one i can find that fits these #'s

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

what say you?

Slonaker · 08-24-2006, 08:51 AM

Ny neighbor has those on an El Camino with those caps, and they look really good.

Slonaker

75Chevy90Kawi · 08-24-2006, 02:12 PM

it's a 5" bolt pattern right?

Slonaker · 08-24-2006, 02:42 PM

I think the El Camino uses a different bolt pattern, but the wheel is available in several different bolt patterns from wheel vintiques. Stckton wheel and other probably have them as well.

I think bigblock73 has those on his truck. You might ask him about them, and what parts he used to lower it.

Slonaker

75Chevy90Kawi · 08-24-2006, 02:49 PM

i went onto the wheels vintiques website and it looks like i can fit the 33 or 37 series wheels in a 15x10 and a 15x8... i'm leaning towards the 37

http://wheelvintiques.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page25.html
http://wheelvintiques.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page35.html

:note, i can get all the different caps for those wheels, not just those shown

or i can get smoothies if i step up to 16x10 and 16x8

http://wheelvintiques.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page7.html
http://wheelvintiques.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page15.html

C-10volvo · 08-24-2006, 03:13 PM

i got my rallys at the local les schwab for about 50 bucks a pop. they are 5 on 5 however, they are only a 15X6 inch wheel. i put them on when i was 16 and did not really know what i was doing.... i know they come in 15x6, 8'' and 10''

boxrodz · 08-26-2006, 01:47 AM

75Chevy90Kawi-
If you can get a picture of your truck taken at the same angle like that of the wheels you linked, we can p'chopped them on your truck. If you go with 16s make sure the tire sizes you want to go with are available. 16s don't come in as many sizes as the 15s. But, I think 16s may look better in the fenderwell if you end up choosing a lower series sidewall. IMO, the 60 series tires on 15s (like 235/60/15s) sitting under the front of truck (like in the pic of the blazer) look a bit small. 16s may help that.

Just a thought... The chopped and lowered satin black truck is smashingchuck's and it's wearing 17" smoothies.

But, I can't remember who sells them.

Low84 · 08-26-2006, 03:38 PM

What are the stock dimensions of the truck rallies like Slonakers. 15x6? 15x7? and whats the backspacing?

75Chevy90Kawi · 08-26-2006, 03:52 PM

hhmm... well first off, that color on the smoothie (green) looks AWESOME! second, that slammed truck with smoothies, well, i wanted more sidewall than that. that's why i'm getting new wheels, is because i want more rubber and less chrome. i'll try to get a pic soon though.

stepside454 · 08-26-2006, 04:16 PM

Heres mine last year

08-21-2006, 08:11 PM	#1
75Chevy90Kawi the green machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: marysville washington Posts: 333	PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels i'm gonna drop my truck either 2/4 or 3/5 this winter fall, and am hoping to put on refurbished stock, or near stock wheels ( http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...55#post1787155 ). any help with pictures? __________________ 1975 Silverado - 450 horse crate 383 stroker, 20" Centerlines, Flowmaster exhaust, Hooker headers, full MSD ignition & more... 2003 Suzuki TL1000R 1985 Kawasaki JS550 hull - project ski - WILL have - 650, footholds, custom paint, 4* bars, bilge setup, and more... My pictures

08-21-2006, 08:55 PM	#2
1974gmc In Progress Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kamloops, BC, Canada Posts: 312	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels this is roughly 3/5 drop, cut coils in front and flip in the rear. steel wheels and caps, 235/75 15's __________________ 1993 Chevrolet K2500 454 4L80E 1974 GMC 1/2t 2wd Stepside 305 auto sold 1985 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 5spd Last edited by 1974gmc; 08-21-2006 at 08:56 PM.

08-22-2006, 01:30 AM	#3
boxrodz Until Seventy Times Seven Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rocky Mountain Front Range Posts: 1,301	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels psst... Go with at least 4-6 drop. Here's an old pic of your ps'ed truck with around a 4-6 drop. Add some steelies or smoothies like babyblue's ps'ed truck. 'Retro' off the dealership floor. Attached Images __________________ boxRODz 1983 C10 SWB Fleetside When two halves is gone, there's nuthin left. Two nothings is nuthin. That's mathematics son. You can argue with me but you can't argue with figures. Two half nothings is a whole nuthin...

08-22-2006, 03:27 AM	#4
75Chevy90Kawi the green machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: marysville washington Posts: 333	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels hhmm.... those smoothies ARE mighty fine lookin... i also like the idea of the wheels being original though. i'm hoping to do a sort of "custom/classic" thing. i would like to shave the handles, and i DEFINATELY need new mirrors, and perhaps shave the handle on the tailgate, all to make it look just a little more smooth, but then i think with the stock wheels (maybe widened in rear? again, cool idea...) and original paint, and a done up but still original looking interior. and yep, i've still got that pic saved on my computer too... its definately something i'll be keeping for reference... __________________ 1975 Silverado - 450 horse crate 383 stroker, 20" Centerlines, Flowmaster exhaust, Hooker headers, full MSD ignition & more... 2003 Suzuki TL1000R 1985 Kawasaki JS550 hull - project ski - WILL have - 650, footholds, custom paint, 4* bars, bilge setup, and more... My pictures

08-22-2006, 09:30 AM	#5
Slonaker Insert Witty Text Here Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,415	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels Here is mine (2.5/4) with stock rally wheels. Slonaker __________________ '86 Chevy C10 (Sold 04/19/13 ) Stock '01 Silverado

08-23-2006, 12:31 PM	#6
boatpuller Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sun City West, Az Posts: 3,822	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels just a little heads up..i wanted to use stock rally's when i lowered mine.it's a five, seven drop.my a arms rubbed even after grinding the lip.research on the forum showed some get away with it,but i didn't.ended up biting the bullet and getting 17in wheels,and glad i did.

08-23-2006, 01:27 PM	#7
Slonaker Insert Witty Text Here Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,415	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels I used 2.5" Western Chassis drop spindles with 8" Rally wheels. I had no clearance problems, and did not have to do any grinding to make them fit. Slonaker __________________ '86 Chevy C10 (Sold 04/19/13 ) Stock '01 Silverado

08-23-2006, 01:31 PM	#8
75Chevy90Kawi the green machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: marysville washington Posts: 333	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels boatpuller - i'm not exactly a "pro" with suspension, would this still be a problem (possibly) with a lesser drop? i dont plan on going down to 5/7 __________________ 1975 Silverado - 450 horse crate 383 stroker, 20" Centerlines, Flowmaster exhaust, Hooker headers, full MSD ignition & more... 2003 Suzuki TL1000R 1985 Kawasaki JS550 hull - project ski - WILL have - 650, footholds, custom paint, 4* bars, bilge setup, and more... My pictures

08-23-2006, 02:15 PM	#9
boxrodz Until Seventy Times Seven Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rocky Mountain Front Range Posts: 1,301	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels I think boatpuller is referring to the 3" drop spindles. Some have a slight clearance problem between the lip (or gutter) of the LCA and the rim. How much to grind depends on the diameter and backspacing of the rim. As Slon reported, those that use the 2 1/2" spindles don't have this issue. BTW, you could always step up to a 17" rally or smoothie. Although, I'm not sure anyone offers a truck rally in 17". BTW, a 8" front and 10" rear wheel setup would look nice. __________________ boxRODz 1983 C10 SWB Fleetside When two halves is gone, there's nuthin left. Two nothings is nuthin. That's mathematics son. You can argue with me but you can't argue with figures. Two half nothings is a whole nuthin...

08-23-2006, 02:16 PM	#10
Slonaker Insert Witty Text Here Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,415	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels The best way to get your drop is from spindles because they do not affect suspension travel or geometry. My recommendation is to lower it first with spindles, then use drop springs if you want additional drop. If you go with a stock wheel less than 8" wide, it might interfere with a 2.5" drop spindle, and definitely will with a 3" drop spindle. I would suggest (but I am biased) that you go with an 8" Rally wheel in the front with 2.5" Western Chassis spindles. I have zero problems with that combo. You could go with 8" or 10" (aftermarket) Rallys on the back since you said in the other thread you want a wide wheel. If you plan to go with a narrower 15, like a 6" or 7" wide plain steel wheel, you should probably use drop springs to avoid clearance issues. You will lose suspension travel, though, and be limited to narrow tires if you do. Slonaker EDIT: Yeah, what he said... __________________ '86 Chevy C10 (Sold 04/19/13 ) Stock '01 Silverado Last edited by Slonaker; 08-23-2006 at 02:18 PM.

08-23-2006, 02:18 PM	#11
75Chevy90Kawi the green machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: marysville washington Posts: 333	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels 8" and 10" would avoid clearance problems you think? __________________ 1975 Silverado - 450 horse crate 383 stroker, 20" Centerlines, Flowmaster exhaust, Hooker headers, full MSD ignition & more... 2003 Suzuki TL1000R 1985 Kawasaki JS550 hull - project ski - WILL have - 650, footholds, custom paint, 4* bars, bilge setup, and more... My pictures

08-23-2006, 02:40 PM	#13
boxrodz Until Seventy Times Seven Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rocky Mountain Front Range Posts: 1,301	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels The advantage of aftermarket rallys, is your selections of backspacing. With the proper bs (~5") on a 10" rally, you shouldn't have any clearance problems in the rear. Up front, I'd think you need around a 5" bs on a 8" rally to clear the fender lip. __________________ boxRODz 1983 C10 SWB Fleetside When two halves is gone, there's nuthin left. Two nothings is nuthin. That's mathematics son. You can argue with me but you can't argue with figures. Two half nothings is a whole nuthin...

08-23-2006, 02:44 PM	#14
75Chevy90Kawi the green machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: marysville washington Posts: 333	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels does anyone know about what the backspacing is on the stock wheels? __________________ 1975 Silverado - 450 horse crate 383 stroker, 20" Centerlines, Flowmaster exhaust, Hooker headers, full MSD ignition & more... 2003 Suzuki TL1000R 1985 Kawasaki JS550 hull - project ski - WILL have - 650, footholds, custom paint, 4* bars, bilge setup, and more... My pictures

08-23-2006, 02:55 PM	#15
boxrodz Until Seventy Times Seven Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rocky Mountain Front Range Posts: 1,301	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels I believe the stock 15x8s have a 4 1/4" bs. __________________ boxRODz 1983 C10 SWB Fleetside When two halves is gone, there's nuthin left. Two nothings is nuthin. That's mathematics son. You can argue with me but you can't argue with figures. Two half nothings is a whole nuthin...

08-23-2006, 08:37 PM	#16
75Chevy90Kawi the green machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: marysville washington Posts: 333	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels so some 15" smoothies or rallys with 5" backspacing and an 8" in front and 10" in rear huh? and a 5 lug 5" bolt pattern right? does anyone have any specific wheels they really like that would fit this bill? i've been lookin on summit for a few, and this is the only one i can find that fits these #'s http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku what say you? __________________ 1975 Silverado - 450 horse crate 383 stroker, 20" Centerlines, Flowmaster exhaust, Hooker headers, full MSD ignition & more... 2003 Suzuki TL1000R 1985 Kawasaki JS550 hull - project ski - WILL have - 650, footholds, custom paint, 4* bars, bilge setup, and more... My pictures



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08-24-2006, 08:51 AM	#17
Slonaker Insert Witty Text Here Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,415	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels Ny neighbor has those on an El Camino with those caps, and they look really good. Slonaker __________________ '86 Chevy C10 (Sold 04/19/13 ) Stock '01 Silverado

08-24-2006, 02:12 PM	#18
75Chevy90Kawi the green machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: marysville washington Posts: 333	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels it's a 5" bolt pattern right? __________________ 1975 Silverado - 450 horse crate 383 stroker, 20" Centerlines, Flowmaster exhaust, Hooker headers, full MSD ignition & more... 2003 Suzuki TL1000R 1985 Kawasaki JS550 hull - project ski - WILL have - 650, footholds, custom paint, 4* bars, bilge setup, and more... My pictures

08-24-2006, 02:42 PM	#19
Slonaker Insert Witty Text Here Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,415	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels I think the El Camino uses a different bolt pattern, but the wheel is available in several different bolt patterns from wheel vintiques. Stckton wheel and other probably have them as well. I think bigblock73 has those on his truck. You might ask him about them, and what parts he used to lower it. Slonaker __________________ '86 Chevy C10 (Sold 04/19/13 ) Stock '01 Silverado

08-24-2006, 02:49 PM	#20
75Chevy90Kawi the green machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: marysville washington Posts: 333	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels i went onto the wheels vintiques website and it looks like i can fit the 33 or 37 series wheels in a 15x10 and a 15x8... i'm leaning towards the 37 http://wheelvintiques.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page25.html http://wheelvintiques.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page35.html :note, i can get all the different caps for those wheels, not just those shown or i can get smoothies if i step up to 16x10 and 16x8 http://wheelvintiques.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page7.html http://wheelvintiques.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page15.html __________________ 1975 Silverado - 450 horse crate 383 stroker, 20" Centerlines, Flowmaster exhaust, Hooker headers, full MSD ignition & more... 2003 Suzuki TL1000R 1985 Kawasaki JS550 hull - project ski - WILL have - 650, footholds, custom paint, 4* bars, bilge setup, and more... My pictures

08-24-2006, 03:13 PM	#21
C-10volvo Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lake Oswego, Oregon Posts: 1,028	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels i got my rallys at the local les schwab for about 50 bucks a pop. they are 5 on 5 however, they are only a 15X6 inch wheel. i put them on when i was 16 and did not really know what i was doing.... i know they come in 15x6, 8'' and 10'' Attached Images __________________ Ken Morgan For fun: 1964 Volvo 122 For slow: 1984 Chevrolet C-10 For everything else: 1997 BMW M3 Last edited by C-10volvo; 08-24-2006 at 03:15 PM.

08-26-2006, 01:47 AM	#22
boxrodz Until Seventy Times Seven Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rocky Mountain Front Range Posts: 1,301	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels 75Chevy90Kawi- If you can get a picture of your truck taken at the same angle like that of the wheels you linked, we can p'chopped them on your truck. If you go with 16s make sure the tire sizes you want to go with are available. 16s don't come in as many sizes as the 15s. But, I think 16s may look better in the fenderwell if you end up choosing a lower series sidewall. IMO, the 60 series tires on 15s (like 235/60/15s) sitting under the front of truck (like in the pic of the blazer) look a bit small. 16s may help that. Just a thought... The chopped and lowered satin black truck is smashingchuck's and it's wearing 17" smoothies. But, I can't remember who sells them. Attached Images __________________ boxRODz 1983 C10 SWB Fleetside When two halves is gone, there's nuthin left. Two nothings is nuthin. That's mathematics son. You can argue with me but you can't argue with figures. Two half nothings is a whole nuthin... Last edited by boxrodz; 08-26-2006 at 02:02 AM.

08-26-2006, 03:38 PM	#23
Low84 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Roma,TX Posts: 774	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels What are the stock dimensions of the truck rallies like Slonakers. 15x6? 15x7? and whats the backspacing? __________________ 1978 stepside C10 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=468265

08-26-2006, 03:52 PM	#24
75Chevy90Kawi the green machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: marysville washington Posts: 333	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels hhmm... well first off, that color on the smoothie (green) looks AWESOME! second, that slammed truck with smoothies, well, i wanted more sidewall than that. that's why i'm getting new wheels, is because i want more rubber and less chrome. i'll try to get a pic soon though. __________________ 1975 Silverado - 450 horse crate 383 stroker, 20" Centerlines, Flowmaster exhaust, Hooker headers, full MSD ignition & more... 2003 Suzuki TL1000R 1985 Kawasaki JS550 hull - project ski - WILL have - 650, footholds, custom paint, 4* bars, bilge setup, and more... My pictures

08-26-2006, 04:16 PM	#25
stepside454 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: st. louis area Posts: 1,551	Re: PIC REQUEST - dropped w/stock wheels Heres mine last year Attached Images __________________ 75 GMC C-15 short/step factory 454, lowered

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