Turning Issue. SOLVED!! Center-link - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**70cst** · 08-01-2022, 12:36 PM

I have a 72 5 lug disc brake set up on my 70 C10. Way back I had ECE 2 1/2" Drop Spindles installed ... I have rubbing issues where the truck has a short turn radius ... when I turn my truck it acts like it’s a 4x4 and I get that 4x4 turning hop feeling. If I go with a 2: Drip Spindle ... in theory that should raise the front end about 1/2" which is all the clearance I need. Your thoughts … No its not the wheel hitting as I have done the grinding to make clearance. Check out the pics. Thanks
PS: I have a factory 402BB if that makes a difference...

72SB · 08-01-2022, 12:49 PM

IMHO using lowering coil springs vs drop spindles is the way to go

https://www.cjponyparts.com/ridetech...20Search%20Ads

**70cst** · 08-01-2022, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72SB

IMHO using lowering coil springs vs drop spindles is the way to go

https://www.cjponyparts.com/ridetech...20Search%20Ads

Thanks
I have a factory 402BB if that makes a difference...

CC69Rat · 08-01-2022, 01:14 PM

I think maybe your center link is on backwards(?) I'm not sure.. but I think it goes castle nuts out. That would definitely impact your turning radius.

**70cst** · 08-01-2022, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC69Rat

I think maybe your center link is on backwards(?) I'm not sure.. but I think it goes castle nuts out. That would definitely impact your turning radius.

Thanks
It very well could be.

This truck was redone years ago but I only started driving it a couple years ago and I am now trying to fine tune it.

68 P.O.S. · 08-01-2022, 01:38 PM

I can't tell if the centerlink is backwards, but the tie rods are for sure

72SB · 08-01-2022, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70cst

Thanks
I have a factory 402BB if that makes a difference...

These are for SB/BB, 70-72 C10. 2" drop

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/M...engine-type/v8

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/m.../1972#overview

**70cst** · 08-01-2022, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68 P.O.S.

I can't tell if the centerlink is backwards, but the tie rods are for sure

The Centerlink according to a 70 Suspension drawing sure looks to be backwards. Looks like whoever did the underneath had no clue...

Thanks

67C10Step · 08-01-2022, 02:07 PM

First thought I had was, "Shouldn't the tie rods be coming in from the rear with the nuts out the front?" We recently had another member on here with turning issues that fixed up.

**lolife99** · 08-01-2022, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC69Rat

I think maybe your center link is on backwards(?) I'm not sure.. but I think it goes castle nuts out. That would definitely impact your turning radius.

Your center link is definitely on backwards.
It needs to be removed and swapped end for end.
Inner tie rod nuts need to be on the FRONT SIDE of the centerlink.

**70cst** · 08-01-2022, 03:23 PM

Thanks All

Can someone send me a picture ... Thanks

67C10Step · 08-01-2022, 03:36 PM

I could have sworn I had photos of mine but could not find one. Here is one from the web. Driver's side but you can see how the inner tie rod comes in from the rear of the center link.

**Accelo** · 08-01-2022, 03:58 PM

Yup, just went through this. They are backwards. It will drive so much better you will not believe it. Toe in will have to be adjusted. Mine was way out after I swapped the center link. You will have to turn the wheel hard over to get it installed as there isn't enough room to install the center link with the wheels straight. Per LocDoc's recommendations install 90 deg fittings to allow for greasing if they are not already installed. Remember "NUTS FORWARD" is how it's installed.
Cheers.

**70cst** · 08-01-2022, 04:14 PM

Folks ... this is a GREAT help. Thanks

**Classic Heartbeat** · 08-01-2022, 07:42 PM

DeWayne, I agree with everyone else here. Swap the center link WES

**70cst** · 08-01-2022, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classic Heartbeat

DeWayne, I agree with everyone else here. Swap the center link WES

Thanks

Do you all think the the tie rods are also backwards?

**lolife99** · 08-01-2022, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70cst

Thanks

Do you all think the the tie rods are also backwards?

You will need to loosen the tie rod sleeve bolts to rotate them 180 degrees.
But most likely you will need to adjust the toe. Get the wheels as straight as possible and then take it to get the front end re-aligned.

**70cst** · 08-01-2022, 11:09 PM

Again folks ... you all have been a great help. I take the Circuit Rider in this Friday and all the work needed will be done and I look forward to being able to making turns.

**Accelo** · 08-02-2022, 09:45 AM

FYIO, I had my truck aligned twice and the alignment guy didn't catch it issue. They even drove the truck before and after. So I have three $90 alignments! It was my bad though. I knew it was possible and my research was inadequate. You will like your truck a lot more after it's back to factory.
cheers.

**70cst** · 08-03-2022, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Accelo

FYIO, I had my truck aligned twice and the alignment guy didn't catch it issue. They even drove the truck before and after. So I have three $90 alignments! It was my bad though. I knew it was possible and my research was inadequate. You will like your truck a lot more after it's back to factory.
cheers.

Yep ... its been an issue for sometime but I could never figure it out ... should have come here ffirst

**70cst** · 08-10-2022, 08:34 AM

I just got a call from the shop that does my work on the C10 ...they changed out the Center-link as it was installled backwards and they said - WOW. It is like driving a new truck. They also said the inside wheel clearance is vastly improved. I hope to pick it up today. Can't wait to drive it.

Again a great big thank you for steering

me in the right direction.

**Palf70Step** · 08-10-2022, 07:14 PM

Good to hear. Cruise on brutha!

08-01-2022, 12:36 PM	#1
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,373	Turning Issue. SOLVED!! Center-link I have a 72 5 lug disc brake set up on my 70 C10. Way back I had ECE 2 1/2" Drop Spindles installed ... I have rubbing issues where the truck has a short turn radius ... when I turn my truck it acts like it’s a 4x4 and I get that 4x4 turning hop feeling. If I go with a 2: Drip Spindle ... in theory that should raise the front end about 1/2" which is all the clearance I need. Your thoughts … No its not the wheel hitting as I have done the grinding to make clearance. Check out the pics. Thanks PS: I have a factory 402BB if that makes a difference... Attached Images __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder! Last edited by 70cst; 08-10-2022 at 10:22 AM.

08-01-2022, 12:49 PM	#2
72SB Registered User Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 774	Re: 2/1"Drop Spindle Question - Turning Issue. IMHO using lowering coil springs vs drop spindles is the way to go https://www.cjponyparts.com/ridetech...20Search%20Ads

08-01-2022, 01:14 PM	#4
CC69Rat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,212	Re: 2/1"Drop Spindle Question - Turning Issue. I think maybe your center link is on backwards(?) I'm not sure.. but I think it goes castle nuts out. That would definitely impact your turning radius. __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

08-01-2022, 01:38 PM	#6
68 P.O.S. Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 1,662	Re: 2/1"Drop Spindle Question - Turning Issue. I can't tell if the centerlink is backwards, but the tie rods are for sure __________________ 72 C10 lwb fleetside -stock 350/350 combo

08-01-2022, 02:07 PM	#9
67C10Step Registered User Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Beebe, AR Posts: 2,475	Re: 2/1"Drop Spindle Question - Turning Issue. First thought I had was, "Shouldn't the tie rods be coming in from the rear with the nuts out the front?" We recently had another member on here with turning issues that fixed up. __________________ 1967 C10 1980 Jeep CJ5 2020 Toyota 4Runner 2024 Toyota Tundra

08-01-2022, 03:23 PM	#11
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,373	Re: 2 1/2 " Drop Spindle Question - Turning Issue. Thanks All Can someone send me a picture ... Thanks __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

08-01-2022, 03:36 PM	#12
67C10Step Registered User Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Beebe, AR Posts: 2,475	Re: 2 1/2 " Drop Spindle Question - Turning Issue. I could have sworn I had photos of mine but could not find one. Here is one from the web. Driver's side but you can see how the inner tie rod comes in from the rear of the center link. Attached Images __________________ 1967 C10 1980 Jeep CJ5 2020 Toyota 4Runner 2024 Toyota Tundra

08-01-2022, 03:58 PM	#13
Accelo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: washington Posts: 2,295	Re: 2 1/2 " Drop Spindle Question - Turning Issue. Yup, just went through this. They are backwards. It will drive so much better you will not believe it. Toe in will have to be adjusted. Mine was way out after I swapped the center link. You will have to turn the wheel hard over to get it installed as there isn't enough room to install the center link with the wheels straight. Per LocDoc's recommendations install 90 deg fittings to allow for greasing if they are not already installed. Remember "NUTS FORWARD" is how it's installed. Cheers. Last edited by Accelo; 08-02-2022 at 09:41 AM.

08-01-2022, 04:14 PM	#14
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,373	Re: 2 1/2 " Drop Spindle Question - Turning Issue. Folks ... this is a GREAT help. Thanks __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

08-01-2022, 07:42 PM	#15
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,766	Re: 2 1/2 " Drop Spindle Question - Turning Issue. DeWayne, I agree with everyone else here. Swap the center link WES __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

08-01-2022, 11:09 PM	#18
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,373	Re: 2 1/2 " Drop Spindle Question - Turning Issue. Again folks ... you all have been a great help. I take the Circuit Rider in this Friday and all the work needed will be done and I look forward to being able to making turns. __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

08-02-2022, 09:45 AM	#19
Accelo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: washington Posts: 2,295	Re: 2 1/2 " Drop Spindle Question - Turning Issue. FYIO, I had my truck aligned twice and the alignment guy didn't catch it issue. They even drove the truck before and after. So I have three $90 alignments! It was my bad though. I knew it was possible and my research was inadequate. You will like your truck a lot more after it's back to factory. cheers.

08-10-2022, 08:34 AM	#21
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,373	Re: 2 1/2 " Drop Spindle Question - Turning Issue. I just got a call from the shop that does my work on the C10 ...they changed out the Center-link as it was installled backwards and they said - WOW. It is like driving a new truck. They also said the inside wheel clearance is vastly improved. I hope to pick it up today. Can't wait to drive it. Again a great big thank you for steering me in the right direction. __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

08-10-2022, 07:14 PM	#22
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 47,216	Re: Turning Issue. SOLVED!! Center-link Good to hear. Cruise on brutha! __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

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